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Gorgeous!

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absolutely stunning

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ooooh, the air people!

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Very neat.

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Eegads, you've really outdone yourself Edgar! The shirt is absolutely beautiful.

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The entire design is ephemeral and airy. Just gorgeous. Beautiful colors. And perfect for a light summer shirt. Love it.

Ahh this is gorgeous. Love your style.

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I love the colours. And since the creepy droopy-eyed people will be looking out from my chest as opposed to at me from my chest, I am okay with this.

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Yes please.

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Edgar, you really need to write a guide for those watercolor techniques.

Exceptional work!

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Love this. The colors are perfect!

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i'll take ten.

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Love this!

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I think I'm an Edgarr fan >_>

dewthermos wrote:I think I'm an Edgarr fan >_>

So wait, this is done with only 6 colors? The watercolor effect looks great but I can't wrap my brain around how its done with 6. Woot can't print halftones that small can they?

Edit: Sorry dewthermos, meant to reply to the main thread and not your post specifically. That question is opened to all you derby pros out there...

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That is beautiful.

briannyc128 wrote:So wait, this is done with only 6 colors? The watercolor effect looks great but I can't wrap my brain around how its done with 6. Woot can't print halftones that small can they?

I count 6. The sun: yellow, orange, and the pink-ish color. The sky: bright blue, light blue, and the gray blue.

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I waaaaannnntttt!!

kylemittskus wrote:I count 6. The sun: yellow, orange, and the pink-ish color. The sky: bright blue, light blue, and the gray blue.

I know what you mean but from the comp, it looks as though different tints are being used and overlaid onto one another. I was under the impression that for the derbies, woot only printed 6 solid colors and you had to achieve any other effects with techniques like halftones, hence my question. There's a lot of compliments from Derby regulars in here so I figure you guys know something I don't at this point.

If what it appears Edgar has done is legit, you could completely avoid the color limitations by designing in full color, then splitting out into CMYK plates. That's how 4 color print process stuff is created.

Not trying to hate or anything, I'm genuinely curious about this.

kylemittskus wrote:I count 6. The sun: yellow, orange, and the pink-ish color. The sky: bright blue, light blue, and the gray blue.

What about the grey cloud outline and the two shades of grey inside the cloud?

Not to mention the yellow/blue overlap that makes a green in some spots?

mfulkron80 wrote:What about the grey cloud outline and the two shades of grey inside the cloud?

Not to mention the yellow/blue overlap that makes a green in some spots?

Missed the outline. I'm not a designer but I'm going to guess half-tones. I believe that half-tones are allowed and woot will decide on a case by case basis whether to print them or not. I think that half-tones are not encouraged, although not banned either. I'm just guessing here. Someone like Jaden would know better than me.

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Really fantastic. The little air elementals remind me of the wood sprites in Princess Mononoke.

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Love it! Reminds me of happy beluga whales. With arms.

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Ever since I was small, I've seen people, animals, faces in the clouds. This reminds me of that. Also, when things get stressful, I just come back and look at this shirt and immediately chill out. I feel like I could just get lost in it. That's magical. Kudos, Edgar. You are magical.

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I neeeeeed 3 of these.

One to wear, one as a backup, and one to stretch on a canvas.

Stat.

This is really beautiful and I am in awe of those watercolor textures.

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Does this remind anyone else of Roald Dahl's "James and the Giant Peach"?

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Probably the most on-topic design in the derby. I really need to learn how to use watercolors textures like that. Good job Edgar.

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Any possibility of seeing a high res image?

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i love this. am i imagining it, or do the clouds spell out "air"?

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I. can't. stop. looking. at. it. Perfection.

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oh, edgar, how do i love thee? let me count the cloud goblins
x infinity!

SpastasticNomadic wrote:I. can't. stop. looking. at. it. Perfection.

I have the same pleasure. And I will be in for 2. I need a back up. This shirt is absolutely gorgeous.

Stormink wrote:Probably the most on-topic design in the derby. I really need to learn how to use watercolors textures like that. Good job Edgar.

I agree on all counts but yes it does embody the theme best for me too!

kylemittskus wrote:I have the same pleasure. And I will be in for 2. I need a back up. This shirt is absolutely gorgeous.

Yes this is definitely twiceworthy or thriceworthy. And I'm glad I'm not the only one who keeps coming back to it

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creepy. but I like the water colorness.

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Every design of yours is great, but I really just don't like the watercolor effect *as a shirt*. This is my Poster Shirt of the Week.

elwayman02 wrote:Every design of yours is great, but I really just don't like the watercolor effect *as a shirt*. This is my Poster Shirt of the Week.

You go away! You shirt, back in the hotness!

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Oh wow, I rarely wear white shirts (only have one white shirt in my collection). I can honestly say that I'll wear the Gigli (2003) out of this shirt!

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Not really feeling this one. Those people are creepy looking!

justineka wrote:I love the colours. And since the creepy droopy-eyed people will be looking out from my chest as opposed to at me from my chest, I am okay with this.

I second this As long as Edgar keeps making shirts, I will continue to spend my fun paper on them. Am still very sad that your Dinosaur creation didn't make it, somehow.

Edgar is definitely my favorite consistent artist on the site

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Gimme gimme gimme.

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I am in awe. Seriously.

isbboy wrote:Does this remind anyone else of Roald Dahl's "James and the Giant Peach"?

Yes! That's the first thing I thought of when I saw this.

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please please please let this win, it's amazing and definitely the best thing in this derby

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I logged in just to vote for this! I hope you win Edgar, I would love to add this to my collection.

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STAY IN THE FOG!

theghotiman wrote:Any possibility of seeing a high res image?

I'd also like to see one. I'm curious to how this design maintained 6 colors with such a watercolor feel.

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You, sir, are brilliant.

This shirt has a cool, lazy feel to it, almost like visually drinking pink lemonade. It begs to be worn on a sunny spring or summer day.

As Edward Blake also said, I only own one other white shirt, but I will buy this next weekend!

Congrats on another great design, Edgar!

I'm sorry, but there's no way that this is just 6 colors. I counted about 14. Now, I'm no genius graphic designer, but if this is 6 colors, I would really like to know how this can be interpreted as such. I have tried some designs myself, and haven't done well with coloring. If we can submit stuff like this, please tell me!

If, on the other hand, only certain people get to submit shirts with full color, I'd like to know that as well.

After noticing a trend of the same winners over and over again, yes, they are good, but I'm thinking this site may be rigged. All evidence seems to point that way, but then again, I may just be paranoid.

sagerman4 wrote:I'm sorry, but there's no way that this is just 6 colors. I counted about 14. Now, I'm no genius graphic designer, but if this is 6 colors, I would really like to know how this can be interpreted as such. I have tried some designs myself, and haven't done well with coloring. If we can submit stuff like this, please tell me!

If, on the other hand, only certain people get to submit shirts with full color, I'd like to know that as well.

After noticing a trend of the same winners over and over again, yes, they are good, but I'm thinking this site may be rigged. All evidence seems to point that way, but then again, I may just be paranoid.

What "evidence"?

Besides that, my guess is HALFTONES LIKE WHOA. And actually, I see about 6 colors.

There is:
-The outline color
-The yellow orange of the outer sun
-The red that serves as BOTH the cloud around the sun AND the inside of the sun
-The bright blue
-The dark blue

Actually, I'm still missing a color, but I think this may be done with five.

If the halftones are spaced properly, you can do lots of crazy things.

HeartlineTwist wrote:What "evidence"?

Besides that, my guess is HALFTONES LIKE WHOA. And actually, I see about 6 colors.

There is:
-The outline color
-The yellow orange of the outer sun
-The red that serves as BOTH the cloud around the sun AND the inside of the sun
-The bright blue
-The dark blue

Actually, I'm still missing a color, but I think this may be done with five.

If the halftones are spaced properly, you can do lots of crazy things.

But woot can't print halftones that small. That's the point.
Atleast that's what I've been told.

yakub89 wrote:But woot can't print halftones that small. That's the point.
Atleast that's what I've been told.

I disagree. Edgar is experienced enough to know what sort of things Woot can and cannot do. I guarantee this is no more than 6 colors, and the process I mentioned is how.

If that's true, then that's pretty cool. I'll have to mess around with some of that. I was thinking the same thing as yakub89. I thought woot couldn't print halftones that small, but if edgar is doing what you say and it is legal, then nice job edgar.

sagerman4 wrote:If that's true, then that's pretty cool. I'll have to mess around with some of that. I was thinking the same thing as yakub89. I thought woot couldn't print halftones that small, but if edgar is doing what you say and it is legal, then nice job edgar.

I mean, I don't know if they CAN print them, but I would assume Edgar would know what he can and can't do, and I can see how you could achieve this with 6 colors (or less, even), even if Woot can't actually do this.

HeartlineTwist wrote:I disagree. Edgar is experienced enough to know what sort of things Woot can and cannot do. I guarantee this is no more than 6 colors, and the process I mentioned is how.

Yup its definitely not more than six colors.

Also, what might make the halftones harder to see is the cotton texture Edgar has used behind the illustration.

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i mean, it's a nice design, but would you really wear it on a tshirt?

really?

edelman wrote:i mean, it's a nice design, but would you really wear it on a tshirt?

really?

Yes, and I'd buy at least two.

I know it might be hard to understand if you've never been anywhere other than woot, but there are plenty of tshirt sites that print nothing but art--not cute or punny designs, but actual art like this and beyond--on tshirts. And people buy those tshirts! And the sites make money! One would think that someone of your woot seniority would know that.

Yeah, it's totally weird that people would want something beautiful on their shirts (it is not totally weird).

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it's so insulting that a bunch of random blue swirls and lines kicked this out of the fog. ...wow. just...wow. i've officially lost my faith in woot derbies.

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I was all lined up to buy this on the weekend x_x;

Seriously, there is one entry in the fog right now that is as good as this imo (tgentry's). Two of the entries I kind of get (although they aren't great) but then the blue lines is nothing compared to this. sigh...

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Hello, I want to buy you. *reach*

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I don't have much faith in Woot, but I have faith in you, Edgar! This is just an astounding design. Wow.

Come on, this really needs to be back in the fog, Woot!

Get this back in the fog!!! This is utterly frustrating seeing abstract swirly colors beat out something truly interesting.

GOGO creepy cloud people!!

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This shirt is beautiful and deserves to be back in the fog.

IncurableHumanist wrote:it's so insulting that a bunch of random blue swirls and lines kicked this out of the fog. ...wow. just...wow. i've officially lost my faith in woot derbies.

Amen. This is an absolutely beautiful design.

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I really hope this gets printed. It's one of the best designs I've ever seen here.

zbuchbinder wrote:Amen. This is an absolutely beautiful design.

now the terrible kiwi design is beating this... I dont understand how these designs are being voted up. I think woot needs to start limiting votes, or forcing commitment to 'i'd want one' because this is getting l-a-m-e.

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Can somebody convince Edgar to open his own dedicated t-shirt shop somewhere on the internets (as long as it isn't CafePress)? I would seriously buy everyone in my family Edgar shirts for birthday presents, every year.

So sad that the Woot voting masses continually ignore Edgar's genius.

goldenthorn wrote:
I know it might be hard to understand if you've never been anywhere other than woot, but there are plenty of tshirt sites that print nothing but art--not cute or punny designs, but actual art like this and beyond--on tshirts. And people buy those tshirts! And the sites make money! One would think that someone of your woot seniority would know that.

I've been lurking here for a little while now, and I'm fully aware that people buy T-shirt designs with art on them; I even like many of them - but for some reason this doesn't strike me as a T-shirt design either.

Of course, I ignored that to vote for it, and will probably do so to buy it. It's a fabulous design, but I'd also like it even more as a print.

Thought the dinosaur one was more creative but this is pretty great as well. Most likely won't fog but lets get it high enough to Editor's Choice!

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The creepy cloud people are...well...creepy. Pass.

jbdeboer wrote:The creepy cloud people are...well...creepy. Pass.

That's my favorite part!

Fujiko wrote:I've been lurking here for a little while now, and I'm fully aware that people buy T-shirt designs with art on them; I even like many of them - but for some reason this doesn't strike me as a T-shirt design either.

Of course, I ignored that to vote for it, and will probably do so to buy it. It's a fabulous design, but I'd also like it even more as a print.

Frankly, I believe that everything by edgar should be drawn/painted/lithographed onto canvas/wood/paper, beautifully framed, and sold for lots of money (which I would gladly pay). Lacking that option, I am happy to wear his work when made available. While best suited to framing, his art is good enough for my chest, indeed.

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Hoping this gets printed or the GRRRRRRRRRRR shirt get's editor's choice.

These last two have been phenomenal Edgar. Keep it up.

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More votes, please.

HKM123 wrote:now the terrible kiwi design is beating this... I dont understand how these designs are being voted up. I think woot needs to start limiting votes, or *FORCING COMMITMENT* to 'i'd want one' because this is getting l-a-m-e.

YESSS! Put a 1.00 charge on your account for every shirt you vote on, then if you buy, the shirt only costs nine bucks, or whatever. Genius...people would really think twice.

IncurableHumanist wrote:it's so insulting that a bunch of random blue swirls and lines kicked this out of the fog. ...wow. just...wow. i've officially lost my faith in woot derbies.

I lost mine months ago.

I like that he is trying out Water colors, but I don't like his creepy sky people.

profnoxin wrote:Really fantastic. The little air elementals remind me of the wood sprites in Princess Mononoke.

I was also reminded of Princess Mononoke, but they are certainly very different. Edgar, this is beautiful, and you are far and away too good for Woot. If you ever go elsewhere, please let us all know. If people come out of their blunt-trauma-induced stupors and vote this back into the fog, I'll be in for at least one.

wormsweater wrote:YESSS! Put a 1.00 charge on your account for every shirt you vote on, then if you buy, the shirt only costs nine bucks, or whatever. Genius...people would really think twice.

I hope you all realize that given sales vs. vote totals, this would probably have little to NO meaningful impact on what's printing, even if I think it's a decent idea.

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Seriously? We need some more dudes to vote. The top three right now are awful!

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For me, the most airy, light and beautiful of the derby. I would so love this for summer. Really sad this is not in the fog any more. Please vote!
This would not be your normal shirt design! Different can be good too!

isbboy wrote:Does this remind anyone else of Roald Dahl's "James and the Giant Peach"?

Yeah, first thing that I thought of :P

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really like this one.. good luck!!

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This one is my favorite in the derby and I really hope it gets printed.

I need this shirt. Awesome work.

joemommapoo wrote:Seriously? We need some more dudes to vote. The top three right now are awful!

I agree.

I'm kind of depressed, I really want an edgarr shirt

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Edgar is the best ever! Love it! (Almost as much as "play musics for my ears....")

kiyarisan wrote:Edgar is the best ever! Love it! (Almost as much as "***play musics for my ears***....")

Oh snap, that one needs to be printed, pronto. In fact, I haven't been disappointed with any of this gentleman's work.

HeartlineTwist wrote:I hope you all realize that given sales vs. vote totals, this would probably have little to NO meaningful impact on what's printing, even if I think it's a decent idea.

It would make alt voting really difficult.

cobolisdead wrote:It would make alt voting really difficult.

Yes, but at the point where there is no proof that alt voting=wins to the degree that people posit, it's a moot point.

If we implemented the system as proposed, I would guarantee that Ramy and Seki would maintain their golden touch and so on and so forth.

HeartlineTwist wrote:Yes, but at the point where there is no proof that alt voting=wins to the degree that people posit, it's a moot point.

If we implemented the system as proposed, I would guarantee that Ramy and Seki would maintain their golden touch and so on and so forth.

As I've said in the past, I don't think Ramy and Seki are using alt accounts to rig the derby in their favour. However, I also don't deny that it's possible. I like the idea, though there may be some problems with it.

Here's why I like it - if people have been using alt accounts, the $1 charge will discourage the practice. If there isn't any (major) alt account use going on and the anime designs continue to win, there will be less reason to suspect untoward activity.

One of my concerns about such a system would be how the charge is handled. Are you automatically billed when you cast your vote? And if the design doesn't win, do you get a refund?

I think it would have to take the form of a pledge, where if you manage to win, then you have to pay. But if that happens, all the reasons why an auto-buy shouldn't occur also apply - e.g. someone may not be able to afford the charge right away and voted with the hope of purchasing at a later date. Granted, $1 is much less than $10, but it's still a similar situation.

Moreover, using alt accounts would still be profitable. You don't need a thousand votes to rig the derby; you only need enough to get yourself into the hotness every so often. If derby rigging is going on as described then, what, it'll cost $100-$300 over all those accounts? The prize is still worth it. The only thing is that it might aid in exposing system abuse to Woot... but they'd have to care first.

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oh no! why is this out of the fog? i love this shirt! i would ACTUALLY want one, not just pretend want one.

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Oh man. I really wanted this shirt. PUT IT BACK IN THE FOG!

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I wish this printed : (

eHalcyon wrote:long post about vote rigging

The main reason why I don't buy the vote rigging arguements are because woot has quite an army of code monkeys, and I'm sure they would notice if someone was doing such a thing.

By the way, this is easily one of, if not THE favorite design I have seen on woot. I will buy this shirt when it is available wherever it is available, please make it happen :D

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*sigh*

Yet another beautiful Edgar masterpiece woefully ignored by the Woot voting masses.