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the derbyDerby #104: TattooYeah, thats what it really says.

Yeah, thats what it really says.

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Heerena wrote:"Kick me"


Wow, you won the translation contest much faster than I expected anyone to!

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That's funny.

Shouldn't it be "Right..."; not "...Right"?

Am I right? Or just confused?

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DeadFrog wrote:Wow, you won the translation contest much faster than I expected anyone to!


Is that really what the binary means? If so, that's hilarious!


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RandomHandle wrote:That's funny.

Shouldn't it be "Right..."; not "...Right"?

Am I right? Or just confused?


The "...Right" is showing a slight hesitation by the bot answering the question. While it may not be "correct", it illustrates the point correctly

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LOL!!!!!!

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I want this so bad!

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Wait, okay, i know what this is riffing on, so I 'get it'.

But they're both robots? Or ones a computer and the other is a robot?

In either case, wouldn't binary be the 'language of both of their pepole'(bots?) I don't know.

Maybe I'm thinking too hard?

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Parthenon wrote:The "...Right" is showing a slight hesitation by the bot answering the question. While it may not be "correct", it illustrates the point correctly


Ok, that makes sense.

Thanks!

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jenopy wrote:Wait, okay, i know what this is riffing on, so I 'get it'.

But they're both robots? Or ones a computer and the other is a robot?

In either case, wouldn't binary be the 'language of both of their pepole'(bots?) I don't know.

Maybe I'm thinking too hard?


Ones a mac and ones a PC...

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01101011 k
01101001 i
01100011 c
01101011 k
00100000
01101101 m
01100101 e

hilarious!

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HA! You are THE MAN. I must have this shirt. I already needed it before I translated it to text and now... Now I will pay double.

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Love this shirt. should do very well. congrats on being funny and cool at the same time.

Soylent Green - it's what, and who, is for dinner.

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I know at least 10 d00ds that would wear this everyday if they could!! GMV!

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Hilarious stuff sir!


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amscray wrote:I know at least 10 d00ds that would wear this everyday if they could!! GMV!


There are 10 kinds of people in this world.

Those who can read binary, and those who can not.

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jenopy wrote:Wait, okay, i know what this is riffing on, so I 'get it'.

But they're both robots? Or ones a computer and the other is a robot?

In either case, wouldn't binary be the 'language of both of their pepole'(bots?) I don't know.

Maybe I'm thinking too hard?


Perhaps one uses ASCII and the other uses EBCDIC.

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Funny? perhaps. But it could be way better executed. The word bubbles and fonts just look lazy, and are far too smooth and curved to jive visually with the blocky robots. Having such heavy line weights doesn't help the disconnect.


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don't they speak the same languauge since they are both robots?

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Krio wrote:Ones a mac and ones a PC...


What's the difference (between the robots, not the OS)?

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Is the tatooist's crossing his fingers? :-)

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jenopy wrote:Wait, okay, i know what this is riffing on, so I 'get it'.

But they're both robots? Or ones a computer and the other is a robot?

In either case, wouldn't binary be the 'language of both of their pepole'(bots?) I don't know.

Maybe I'm thinking too hard?


Yeah, it doesn't make any sense with them both being robots. I see the rationalization police are already on the scene with mac/pc etc, but it would have been much better and smarted to make the guy getting tattooed not a robot.

Especially the "your peple" part of it makes it much more awkward. It's unfortunate you didn't go with a person or a panda or a turtle or a series of three figures with brushstroke distressing.

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Very clever. GMV

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I know of a tattoo artist (and there are probably actually many) who frequently incorperates hidden "male parts" into his very intricate pieces. This design just made me think of that. I like the shirt a lot.

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AdderXYU wrote:Funny? perhaps. But it could be way better executed. The word bubbles and fonts just look lazy, and are far too smooth and curved to jive visually with the blocky robots. Having such heavy line weights doesn't help the disconnect.


leelaaa wrote:don't they speak the same languauge since they are both robots?


These are my qualms with this one as well. I actually enjoy the thick-lined monochrome illo, I'm just not a fan any humor shirt that needs extensive word-bubbling... feels too "one-panel-comic-strip-pretending-to-be-a-shirt-design".

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Mavyn wrote:There are 10 kinds of people in this world.

Those who can read binary, and those who can not.


EXACTLY!!

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Mavyn wrote:There are 10 kinds of people in this world.

Those who can read binary, and those who can not.


I love it. amazing quote



shirts not bad either

Stop voting for shirts that you would never buy or wear, it says "I'd want one" not "I like this"!

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For what it's worth on the whole "they're both robots so surely they share a language" thing. Perhaps I am reading too much into it, but the different fonts (to me) imply different languages (like how they do in comics or whatever).

(Besides, those robots really don't look all tha similar either.)

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hum.. don't you think it'd make more sense if the bot getting the tattoo was a human? yeah, i think it would.

also, this is less a tattoo and more just a comic. no one would actually have this on their bodies.

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byrbwr wrote:hum.. don't you think it'd make more sense if the bot getting the tattoo was a human? yeah, i think it would.

also, this is less a tattoo and more just a comic. no one would actually have this on their bodies.


That's not really an issue. The derby theme clearly states that designs about tattooing are ok and this is very obviously about people getting ridiculous statements tattooed on themselves in languages they can't read so it's perfectly on theme.

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mrwednesday wrote:That's not really an issue. The derby theme clearly states that designs about tattooing are ok and this is very obviously about people getting ridiculous statements tattooed on themselves in languages they can't read so it's perfectly on theme.


We have an ankle tattoo in our family. The claim is the character means truth but we all suspect it means malcontent. No definitive proof yet.

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mrwednesday wrote:That's not really an issue. The derby theme clearly states that designs about tattooing are ok and this is very obviously about people getting ridiculous statements tattooed on themselves in languages they can't read so it's perfectly on theme.


Agreed. Will be intersted to see what the guest rejector feels like.

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I like myself less for not thinking of this. Hilarious.

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earthart wrote:We have an ankle tattoo in our family. The claim is the character means truth but we all suspect it means malcontent. No definitive proof yet.


Well Tian does frequent shirt woot so send him a message. For those who don't know Tian runs www.hanzismatter.com which points out this sort of tattoo issue. DeadFrog and I both read Chinese as well so we could take a look too if you wanted.

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I would also like it better if a human (or any other species for that matter) was getting tattooed instead of a robot.
Can you make changes to it now?

mrwednesday wrote:Yeah, it doesn't make any sense with them both being robots. I see the rationalization police are already on the scene with mac/pc etc, but it would have been much better and smarted to make the guy getting tattooed not a robot.

Especially the "your peple" part of it makes it much more awkward. It's unfortunate you didn't go with a person or a panda or a turtle or a series of three figures with brushstroke distressing.

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Can you resubmit with Bender and Fry or with non-copyrighted facsimiles? That would be super awesome!

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ThomasSue wrote:Can you resubmit with Bender and Fry or with non-copyrighted facsimiles? That would be super awesome!


Ah man, that would be sweet. Now I can only hear the speech bubbles in their voices.

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DeadFrog wrote:Ah man, that would be sweet. Now I can only hear the speech bubbles in their voices.


"so bender, this means serenity in your people's language right? because i dont want robots kicking me again"

"thats right meatbag *whisper* dumb jerk"

"what was that bender?"

"i said you're an dumb jerk"

"oh,...ok"

i caught a 30h probation for this image

they said it was a useless post. i disagree, i think it was mighty useful, especially on the shirt i posted it on, la bella e vita

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ThomasSue wrote:Can you resubmit with Bender and Fry or with non-copyrighted facsimiles? That would be super awesome!


how would bender know what it says? he only knows enough binary to ask where the bathroom is

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sefjwm wrote:Well Tian does frequent shirt woot so send him a message. For those who don't know Tian runs www.hanzismatter.com which points out this sort of tattoo issue. DeadFrog and I both read Chinese as well so we could take a look too if you wanted.


Thank you for the tip. I will go on a covert mission to snap a pic of it at our next family function. If I am successful I will contact Tian. Although if I do find out it does mean something negative I might not have the nerve to tell her in fear of the ensuing head butts. Thanks again.

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jenopy wrote:Wait, okay, i know what this is riffing on, so I 'get it'.

But they're both robots? Or ones a computer and the other is a robot?

In either case, wouldn't binary be the 'language of both of their pepole'(bots?) I don't know.

Maybe I'm thinking too hard?


Binary is a way of representing other characters using only "off" and "on"; there are multiple ways of doing so. For example, the binary number 110 in base 10 is 6. However, if you interpret it as given in 3-bit two's complement notation then it's actually -2. And in one's complement notation, it's -1. Unless you have a system to interpret it, binary alone is meaningless.

For plain text, one such system is ASCII. There are others.

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gumberculees wrote:how would bender know what it says? he only knows enough binary to ask where the bathroom is


So he says but he also knew enough binary to be frightened by what was written on Uncle Vlad's painting. I guess Bender can do what he wants to Fry since he has his power of attorney.

You're Gumberculees? I love that guy!

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Re: Yeah, thats what it really says.

I think I'm the first to point this out, but in the comment bubbles I believe commas should be used. On my computer screen it looks like periods are being used. It's something that pops out at me every time I see this shirt.

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TheWhistleGoesWooWoo wrote:I think I'm the first to point this out, but in the comment bubbles I believe commas should be used. On my computer screen it looks like periods are being used. It's something that pops out at me every time I see this shirt.

I meant to point out that this is just for the robot on the left.

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TheWhistleGoesWooWoo wrote:I think I'm the first to point this out, but in the comment bubbles I believe commas should be used. On my computer screen it looks like periods are being used. It's something that pops out at me every time I see this shirt.


If you look really closely you can see that there is a very small tail on it. I believe that it is just that font's commas look a lot like its periods.

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Re: Yeah, thats what it really says.

Just spotted a very similar joke over at BoingBoing, appears to have been posted back in May.

Not a shirt though so this design should still be in the clear.

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jenopy wrote: wouldn't binary be the 'language of both of their people'?


To go from "01101011" "k" is ASCII. Perhaps he speaks Unicode, in which case he'd be lucky to get two letters in there.

Or maybe he speaks Bocce, the language of irrigation systems.

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The Tim wrote:Just spotted a very similar joke over at BoingBoing, appears to have been posted back in May.

Not a shirt though so this design should still be in the clear.


And not even close.

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

"There are many ways to the recognition of truth; Burgundy is one of them." -Isak Dinesen

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If the tatto is on the back - he can't read it. And since the head is only turned 90 degrees - it seems safe to assume that is as far the head turns, or he/she/it would completely turn his/her/its head to address the bot doing the tattoo.

At least that's the way I'm reading it (heh-heh).

~redsquid

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hilarious.

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I'd like to see him tattoing a human also...because they are both robots...so why would there be confusion about the language. Nevertheless its very funny!

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Best shirt EVER!

LemonLover

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If this wins .. MINE!

(0_O)

Re: The Ancient Art



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There are 10 kinds of people who understand binary: those who get it, and those who don't.

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geek speak, nice, I like the color of the shirt too, great idea, and well done.

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It is great, I just wish it were placed ever so slightly lower.

From the book of Lamest comments ever: "looks ribs"

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to everyone who thinks it should be a human and a robot:
consider, if it was two humans, one an asian tattoo artist and the other a caucasian tourist or something, and the artist was tattooing some sort of chinese character or whatever, the joke would make sense. even though they're both human. since humans have various languages.

and these robots are clearly very different. so it's not absurd to think they have different 'languages'

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Krio wrote:Ones a mac and ones a PC...


ah, but the only difference in ascii would be the carriage return...

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jenovanomusuko wrote:ah, but the only difference in ascii would be the carriage return...


One uses ASCII, the other unicode.

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This is awesome!

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Funny. Couldn't imagine wearing it.

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I usually don't like having text on a shirt but this one is an exception. Understanding the joke and being a tech junkie makes it all the better.
GMV man.

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faultylogic83 wrote:Funny. Couldn't imagine wearing it.


You could always try copying and pasting your head into the comp image. That might help

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And once again, vague humor with faulty execution will triumph over far better work.


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AdderXYU wrote:And once again, vague humor with faulty execution will triumph over far better work.


Adder Attacks the Woot Voting Mechanism!

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AdderXYU wrote:Funny? perhaps. But it could be way better executed. The word bubbles and fonts just look lazy, and are far too smooth and curved to jive visually with the blocky robots. Having such heavy line weights doesn't help the disconnect.


Agree. Concept is great. Execution is poor. Plus, I don't have any friends that would understand the joke and then I would have to spend every day that I wear the shirt explaining it over and over and over again...

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DeadFrog wrote:Adder Attacks the Woot Voting Mechanism!


I'd take a Don Quixote tattoo over this shirt any day, DF.

You have too many things in this piece that bother me: They're both robots, so they'd both speak binary. The difference in fonts between both of them is bothersome and distracting. And despite your position on the piece, it's far too similar to the Bender cartoon bit and a host of other cartoons that have been done on this very subject.

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DeadFrog wrote:Adder Attacks the Woot Voting Mechanism!


I came for the shirts; I stay for the drama.

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JadenKale wrote:I'd take a Don Quixote tattoo over this shirt any day, DF.

You have too many things in this piece that bother me: They're both robots, so they'd both speak binary. The difference in fonts between both of them is bothersome and distracting. And despite your position on the piece, it's far too similar to the Bender cartoon bit and a host of other cartoons that have been done on this very subject.


Don Quixote rocks, its true.

As far as whether or not the design is too similar to something already in existence, I think my design is the one in the fog with the least to worry about there.

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JadenKale wrote:I'd take a Don Quixote tattoo over this shirt any day, DF.

You have too many things in this piece that bother me: They're both robots, so they'd both speak binary. The difference in fonts between both of them is bothersome and distracting. And despite your position on the piece, it's far too similar to the Bender cartoon bit and a host of other cartoons that have been done on this very subject.


Again, binary is not in and of itself a language. That's like saying that the alphabet is a language. French and English both use the same alphabet. More than one "language" can use binary.

The different fonts emphasizes a difference in language.

And though I recall some jokes on binary and some jokes about tattoos in Futurama, I don't recall anything like this in the show or in "a host of other cartoons". If that's true, some links would be great because it's definitely a reason for rejection - I know I've been rejected for making a Simpson's reference (which I wasn't even aware of), and then there was Sokowa's rejection in the Emergency derby due to the Farside cartoon, just to name a couple.

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eHalcyon wrote:Again, binary is not in and of itself a language. That's like saying that the alphabet is a language. French and English both use the same alphabet. More than one "language" can use binary.


Here's a great binary solo!

i smile you smile we smile everyone happy!

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I'm a little disappointed to see a cliche doing so well, not only that but a cliche that doesn't quite make sense considering they're both robots. Not to say the artwork isn't nice, but I would also agree that the chosen font isn't the best.

props for thinking up something that would appeal to the geeky masses that visit this site though (myself included). The audience is the true judge, no?

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Its difficult to make something completely original, generally people build off of obscure ideas, even if they realize it or not. Also the several language thing seems to blow a lot of peoples minds... being all humans speak the same language.

Anyway nice shirt

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Hermz wrote:Its difficult to make something completely original, generally people build off of obscure ideas, even if they realize it or not. Also the several language thing seems to blow a lot of peoples minds... being all humans speak the same language.

Anyway nice shirt


The fact is, they are both speaking the same language in text. English. The different fonts equaling different languages, then, is a fallacy, since it'd really just be accents of the same language. As such, the joke is still weak.

But honestly, what it boils down to at the end of the day isn't even originality. This is Not.Well.Done. You're voting for what little humor it has while overlooking that the design is flawed. Heavily.


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AdderXYU wrote:The fact is, they are both speaking the same language in text. English. The different fonts equaling different languages, then, is a fallacy, since it'd really just be accents of the same language. As such, the joke is still weak.

As eHalcyon already explained, the robots use two different "languages" for interpreting binary. The different fonts signify that each robot has a different native language. The fonts themselves aren't actually intended to be different languages.

Both robots are bilingual. One speaks with an "ASCII accent," while the other speaks with an "unicode accent."

eHalcyon wrote:
Again, binary is not in and of itself a language. That's like saying that the alphabet is a language. French and English both use the same alphabet. More than one "language" can use binary.

The different fonts emphasizes a difference in language.

eHalcyon wrote:
One uses ASCII, the other unicode.

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I don't see what the problem is - we are all humans, and we speak different languages.

If you look at the robots they are both slightly different, much like different regions of people would be. So why assume all robots would speak the same language if all humans dont???

icthulhu wrote:
I just hope that there's more than Basil/Olives/Coppa in the antipasto, if you catch my drift.

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homeybeef wrote:
As eHalcyon already explained, the robots use two different "languages" for interpreting binary. The different fonts signify that each robot has a different native language. The fonts themselves aren't actually intended to be different languages.

Both robots are bilingual. One speaks with an "ASCII accent," while the other speaks with an "unicode accent."


While it's been explained (and done quite well), the fact that it has to be explained shows that not everyone will get this. Not that shirt.woot! is a site that generally has shirts everyone will understand, but I would guess that a large percentage of people don't know about the computer language difference.

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elvenmalka523 wrote:While it's been explained (and done quite well), the fact that it has to be explained shows that not everyone will get this. Not that shirt.woot! is a site that generally has shirts everyone will understand, but I would guess that a large percentage of people don't know about the computer language difference.


agreed!

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elvenmalka523 wrote:While it's been explained (and done quite well), the fact that it has to be explained shows that not everyone will get this. Not that shirt.woot! is a site that generally has shirts everyone will understand, but I would guess that a large percentage of people don't know about the computer language difference.


Why does everyone have to get it? It makes enough sense on its own that people will get the joke regardless. Some might think a bit farther and wonder "but shouldn't they both speak binary?" If it comes up, you can enlighten them. And even if you don't, they'd still understand what the joke was - they'd just incorrectly think it flawed. And that's their problem.

As you said, many shirts are such that not many people will understand. Even on today's offering - a relatively simplistic juxtaposition of pop culture and a common traditional element with which most people should be familiar - we've had multiple remarks of "I don't get it".

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I like the shirt "As-Is," and I think it will win. But I agree with everyone else who says the other robot should know how to read the tattoo. It's machine language and they're both machines. I think the illustration would've made more sense if robot getting the tattoo was saying something along the lines of: "Are you done with my serentity tattoo?" And the 2 different fonts is bugging me too.

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eHalcyon wrote:Why does everyone have to get it? It makes enough sense on its own that people will get the joke regardless. Some might think a bit farther and wonder "but shouldn't they both speak binary?" If it comes up, you can enlighten them. And even if you don't, they'd still understand what the joke was - they'd just incorrectly think it flawed. And that's their problem.

As you said, many shirts are such that not many people will understand. Even on today's offering - a relatively simplistic juxtaposition of pop culture and a common traditional element with which most people should be familiar - we've had multiple remarks of "I don't get it".


I'm not saying everyone has to get it but between the people who aren't able to translate the binary to kick me and the people who don't know the difference between computer languages, there will be a lot of people who need the shirt explained. I'm not saying this is a problem, but some people might not want to wear a t-shirt they have to explain all day.

And thanks for the helpful explanations in both the daily and this shirt. They were both really helpful in understanding more about the design.

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mitchellp wrote:I like the shirt "As-Is," and I think it will win. But I agree with everyone else who says the other robot should know how to read the tattoo. It's machine language and they're both machines. I think the illustration would've made more sense if robot getting the tattoo was saying something along the lines of: "Are you done with my serentity tattoo?" And the 2 different fonts is bugging me too.


I'm Chinese. Certainly this means that I can read Japanese. Asian languages, Asian people.

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elvenmalka523 wrote:I'm not saying everyone has to get it but between the people who aren't able to translate the binary to kick me and the people who don't know the difference between computer languages, there will be a lot of people who need the shirt explained. I'm not saying this is a problem, but some people might not want to wear a t-shirt they have to explain all day.

And thanks for the helpful explanations in both the daily and this shirt. They were both really helpful in understanding more about the design.


That's fair. Really, even among those of us who know something about this stuff, very few would be able to translate binary encoding on-the-fly and by hand. I can do binary if we're just dealing with the number system (i.e. base 2 vs. base 10) but I certainly don't know all the ASCII codes.

As many people as there are who don't want to explain their shirts, there are as many who probably like it. I personally wouldn't care, but as it is very few people ask me about my shirts, obscure joke/reference or not.

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eHalcyon wrote:I'm Chinese. Certainly this means that I can read Japanese. Asian languages, Asian people.


That analogy doesn't work. Machine code is the only language machines understand. They don't speak anything else.

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mitchellp wrote:That analogy doesn't work. Machine code is the only language machines understand. They don't speak anything else.


There's more than one way to encode binary. ASCII/ANSI, EBCDIC, Unicode... and even in Unicode you have UTF-8, UTF-16, UTF-32, etc.

You're assuming that all machines use the same "language" when that simply isn't the case. It's similar to how some people (not you, just some people) assume that an Asian person should be able to read Chinese regardless of actual heritage. Actually, I'm almost entirely Chinese illiterate (though I can speak it fluently enough in casual conversation).

The analogy works.

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eHalcyon wrote:Why does everyone have to get it? It makes enough sense on its own that people will get the joke regardless. Some might think a bit farther and wonder "but shouldn't they both speak binary?" If it comes up, you can enlighten them. And even if you don't, they'd still understand what the joke was - they'd just incorrectly think it flawed. And that's their problem.

As you said, many shirts are such that not many people will understand. Even on today's offering - a relatively simplistic juxtaposition of pop culture and a common traditional element with which most people should be familiar - we've had multiple remarks of "I don't get it".


This is all peripheral to the fact that it is not even remotely well executed. Look at those word balloons. LOOK AT THEM.

Whatever. If you want to argue for every hack on the site just to babble about semantics, go for it. There is a line of quality that should be a meaningful delineation of what is and isn't printed, and this does not have that. Any convoluted argument about how the joke makes sense is only a convoluted argument, and does not make this well done.


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AdderXYU wrote:This is all peripheral to the fact that it is not even remotely well executed. Look at those word balloons. LOOK AT THEM.

Whatever. If you want to argue for every hack on the site just to babble about semantics, go for it. There is a line of quality that should be a meaningful delineation of what is and isn't printed, and this does not have that. Any convoluted argument about how the joke makes sense is only a convoluted argument, and does not make this well done.


I don't see how it's convoluted - seems simple enough to me. If it's all peripheral (side note - pun intended when you said it?) then there isn't any need for you to attack my reasoning with unsubstantiated claims. If it's really so hard to understand, let me know where the confusion is and I'll try to use simpler terms.

I'll agree that the balloons could use more work to integrate with the design, but they actually don't bother me that much. In terms of execution, it actually seems quite a bit better to me than many Woot prints.

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eHalcyon wrote:There's more than one way to encode binary. ASCII/ANSI, EBCDIC, Unicode... and even in Unicode you have UTF-8, UTF-16, UTF-32, etc.

You're assuming that all machines use the same "language" when that simply isn't the case. It's similar to how some people (not you, just some people) assume that an Asian person should be able to read Chinese regardless of actual heritage. Actually, I'm almost entirely Chinese illiterate (though I can speak it fluently enough in casual conversation).

The analogy works.


Since the two of them are conversing, they also have to worry about whether each is speaking Big Endian or Little Endian as they each deliver their info to the other.

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Josephus wrote:Since the two of them are conversing, they also have to worry about whether each is speaking Big Endian or Little Endian as they each deliver their info to the other.


htonl(), htons(), ntohl(), ntohs()

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eHalcyon wrote:

I'll agree that the balloons could use more work to integrate with the design, but they actually don't bother me that much. In terms of execution, it actually seems quite a bit better to me than many Woot prints.


This is the logical equivalent of saying "This Ja Rule album isn't as bad as some of his others".


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AdderXYU wrote:This is the logical equivalent of saying "This Ja Rule album isn't as bad as some of his others".


Then stop listening to his music.

It's great that you campaign to improve the quality on this site and I certainly do think your presence is beneficial to the community overall, but "go away" is the logical response to that analogy. I've never heard his music so I can't attest to its quality, but his Wiki page shows that he's received many rewards for his work. Whether it's because you personally don't like the genre or whatever other reason you think his music is poor, it's not going to change just because you complain about it. Just listen to something else.

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eHalcyon wrote:...I've never heard his music so I can't attest to its quality...


One important note to remember about Ja Rule is that he worked with JLo in her glory days. Tee hee!

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YES! Robot with a sense of mirth not violating Asimov's laws...

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Re: Yeah, thats what it really says.


I think these word balloons are executed in a professional and stylish fashion. Top quality of thought and design.

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It's not that hard: Na-gheen-an-a-jar. Nagheenanajar.

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I really love this idea, but I kind of agree about the execution. The text could be better, but my main issue is with the pose and perspective of the robot on the right. His body is facing away from the robot he's tattooing and looking at his chair he seems like he's behind the other one (further away from the viewer). It almost feels Escheresque. I think turning him inwards so he faces the viewer and uses his right hand instead might have worked better as far as staging goes.

The idea made me laugh though, it reminds me of watching Miami Ink, listening to some vapid airheads explain the deep meaning behind their butterfly tattoos.

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re: yeah, thats what it really says.


Step 1: make the robot that is being tattooed human.
Step 2: Shorten bubbles to "This says 'serenity,' right?" "Right..."*
Step 3: Make the text+bubbles not look laugh-inducingly bad.


*you could even omit the second bubble altogether!

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leelaaa wrote:don't they speak the same languauge since they are both robots?


That's what I was thinking. Wouldn't it have been better to have a human getting the same tattoo from a robot? I dunno. Just thinking out-loud.

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Kyros wrote:That's what I was thinking. Wouldn't it have been better to have a human getting the same tattoo from a robot? I dunno. Just thinking out-loud.



Not really. Humans are Humans. Think an Asian giving an American a chinese symbol tattoo. The robots in the picture are different, but they are both robots. So they speak a different language, think of it as different programming languages.

I guess you have to be a computer geek to get it

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01101011 01101001 01100011 01101011 00100000 01101101 01100101

YES!!! MUST HAVE!

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wootmuh wrote:Not really. Humans are Humans. Think an Asian giving an American a chinese symbol tattoo. The robots in the picture are different, but they are both robots. So they speak a different language, think of it as different programming languages.

I guess you have to be a computer geek to get it


Very true. So maybe the bot-dude on the left is all about the C++ while the bot-dude on the right is all about the Java. I dig.

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Just bought mine

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The binary translates to "107,105,99,107,32,109,101" in decimal, converted to ASCII character is "kick me"

kdubbs29 wrote:Is that really what the binary means? If so, that's hilarious!

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Kyros wrote:Very true. So maybe the bot-dude on the left is all about the C++ while the bot-dude on the right is all about the Java. I dig.


Programming languages are not the same as machine code. I think the joke is more along the lines of asci versus unicode.

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very nice!

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mrwednesday wrote:Yeah, it doesn't make any sense with them both being robots. I see the rationalization police are already on the scene with mac/pc etc, but it would have been much better and smarted to make the guy getting tattooed not a robot.

Especially the "your peple" part of it makes it much more awkward. It's unfortunate you didn't go with a person or a panda or a turtle or a series of three figures with brushstroke distressing.


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thank you mrwednesday (are they still blathering on out there? o, yes, yup, youbetcha)

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