artulo


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crazyharry wrote:I can tell. The last one was really good, almost to the point that I would think about buying it. I voted for it, but I don't think it's quite my style.



I sincerely appreciate your honesty!

geekfactor12


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tgentry wrote:In the interest of disclosure, the Stonehenge wasn't freehanded. I traced it in Illustrator based off a 3D model:



I don't want people to think I have Rain Man like abilities of freehand perspective. Feel free to take away your vote if you feel cheated.



Ouch! My groin! watching turtles fight TRACER!

snarkygal


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redghia69 wrote:Yeah! Past 300! Now, where is that fog anyhow?




You're only a few votes away. For an estimate of votes, you can see at this site:

http://www.shirtderbystats.com/index.asp

snarkygal


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geekfactor12 wrote:Ouch! My groin! watching turtles fight TRACER!



That will go down in Woot history as the funniest post ever!

thatrobert


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Re: Aztec Stonemasons hated leap day



Congratulations! You have won a Best Loser Award!

thatrobert


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Re: Its A Leap Year!



Congratulations! You have won a Best Loser Award!

sigaru


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Re: Oh boy!



um...i don't really get it. am i stupid?

sigaru


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Re: Oh boy!



um...i don't really get it. am i stupid?

Andy47240


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tgentry wrote:In the interest of disclosure, the Stonehenge wasn't freehanded. I traced it in Illustrator based off a 3D model:



I don't want people to think I have Rain Man like abilities of freehand perspective. Feel free to take away your vote if you feel cheated.


Again, I don't think anyone has to justify their artwork. I don't believe anyone will have an issue with this.
-Andy



tgentry


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klswoot wrote:Was that made in SketchUp.



This is Maya. I use Maya at home and 3D Studio Max at work. Maya's where it's at though.

Andy47240 wrote:Again, I don't think anyone has to justify their artwork. I don't believe anyone will have an issue with this.
-Andy



Yeah I don't think anyone would either, I just got a nagging feeling today like maybe I was trying to pass myself off as some kind of super perspective illustrator. I actually use rough 3D models at work sometimes doing environment illustrations to get the base perspective right, then take that and flesh it out on paper.

Andy47240


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sigaru wrote:um...i don't really get it. am i stupid?


It's about the theory that when you....o.k., I don't know either.



Iambusyeating


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tgentry wrote:[quote postid="1982797" user="klswoot"]Was that made in SketchUp.

This is Maya. I use Maya at home and 3D Studio Max at work. Maya's where it's at though.



The fact that you made a 3d model to base your shirt off of only makes it more awesome, not less.

crudd


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From a leap year baby, absolute non-artist, I hope your design ends up available for purchase. My party is next Friday and I need an outfit.

klswoot


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no1 wrote:STONE THE HEATHEN!



Loved this reply!

klswoot


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crudd wrote:From a leap year baby, absolute non-artist, I hope your design ends up available for purchase. My party is next Friday and I need an outfit.



Thanks! No. No printing for this design, but I do appreciate that you like it. Happy Leap Day Birthday! Have fun!

Josephus


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thatrobert wrote:Congratulations! You have won a Best Loser Award!



awesome!
-we take our victories where we can. :^D

mjc613


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Re: It's the Leap Year Baby!


A 3 armed cherub is new for me.

Patchitect


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redghia69 wrote:Yeah! Past 300! Now, where is that fog anyhow?



So close to it.. one more day and you'll hopefully bump out Leap Year

Iambusyeating


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Patchitect wrote:So close to it.. one more day and you'll hopefully bump out Leap Year



According to ShirtDerbyStats the giraffes are in the bottom of the fog. I wish CWarrington (or someone) could explain how he comes by this because it looks fascinating.

Patchitect


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Josephus wrote:I'm sick of this, frankly. I detailed how I made this design, a couple of times. I posted pictures showing the difference between the live-trace from Vector Magic that I used and the 'hand traced' version that I made. I get the message- you hate it. You have such vitriol inside that you have to pick on a design to release the venom. Fine, this week, you chose my design. good for you. Just know, I worked very hard on this design, and I purposely chose to make it with a few colors just because I think it is a better design that way; with more colors, I think the detail becomes too cluttered. I suppose I could have done a better job on the face, but I did the best that I thought I could do. The truth is that the nose is mostly broken off of the original I used, and it looked the way that I made it. You can probably thank Cortez for that damage. I f you can't appreciate the several hours I spent on this design, which doesn't have any careless errors on it, then all I can say is, I'm sorry about that. I'll try to do a better job next time, because I couldn't quite get my idea across to enough people that this was a really wearable, neat design that people would like to wear. Maybe next week you'll have another target, one who is a bit more patient than me. If so, I feel sorry for that person who won't have deserved the angry, pointless attack any more than I did.



Sorry, Joe.. it was your week... Last week was Spryte.. next week will be some other poor schmoe.. apparently it has to be someone, or the masses get lonely not jumping on a bandwagon...

Josephus


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Patchitect wrote:So close to it.. one more day and you'll hopefully bump out Leap Year



its possible, I guess. But there are less than 15 hrs left, and many of those are in the late, late night. If it had made it into the fog this afternoon, then it would have a good chance. It's hard to break into there, even with as quick rising a design as this one.

tgentry


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Iambusyeating wrote:The fact that you made a 3d model to base your shirt off of only makes it more awesome, not less.



Hold up, don't be too impressed, lambusyeating. This was a model from the collection of stock 3D models I've been piling up over the years. I have a huge folder of all sorts of things like chairs, people, cars, architecture etc. Most of them are pretty half-hearted and amateurish, but sometimes they come in handy. I think I did enough on it to make it an original image in and of itself, and I have the rights to do whatever I want with the model at any rate. I guess I didn't see much point in putting a lot of energy into this entry because I didn't think the idea would come across all that well. Turns out the entry I put all the effort into and thought would be a hit got 13 votes. Go figure. Even though (and because) I do some 3D modeling for a living, I don't want to take credit for something I didn't do, regardless of if it's a simple stock model or not. I'd rather be forthcoming than have people thinking I did something I didn't. You'd all probably never know the difference, but I certainly would.

Anyways, like I said, if you feel cheated or slighted feel free to take away a vote. I like the lemming shirt, so it wouldn't crush me if this one didn't place. Although I wouldn't cry a river either if it did.

AdderXYU


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Patchitect wrote:Sorry, Joe.. it was your week... Last week was Spryte.. next week will be some other poor schmoe.. apparently it has to be someone, or the masses get lonely not jumping on a bandwagon...



the other option is to neither live-nor-hand-trace. It would save everyone a lot of trouble of having to defend themselves.

tgentry


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mjc613 wrote:A 3 armed cherub is new for me.



It's got that extra bit of something. It just doesn't happen to be votes.

klswoot


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Re: Just because.....



What will be the magic number?

NathanOfLight


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Re: Just because.....



Love that shirt - glad someone did the Lemmings :P

sailstud25


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crazyharry wrote:I don't think the quality is quite as good as in the last mouse shirt.



Both are awesome! gmv, too bad I can't buy it! :'(

Hmm, just went in for 3 Randoms, when I haven't bought any shirts lately (although still checking frequently) so what are the chances of liking them!?! Oh well, couldn't pass up the mystery!
...a number of shirts on teetrade.com

Josephus


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AdderXYU wrote:the other option is to neither live-nor-hand-trace. It would save everyone a lot of trouble of having to defend themselves.



You know, the only reason anyone has to defend themselves is because there is a real attitude here that use of this tool is beneath 'artistes' somehow. Yet, the level of artistry exhibited in the derby otherwise, is for the most part laughable. A few people do some fine work. Edgar McCherly comes to mind. So too, Tgentry. Some on occasion use tracing as a tool to get their idea across, given the time constraints. I can't believe that any question of my use of tracing by anyone with bonafide credentials would occur. As we say in the photoshop contest every week, "Use Photoshop, linoleum blocks, pastels, MSPaint, cave painting, tattoos, tribal scarification, whatever,". The point out to be that you use the right tool for the job. My idea, which frankly I recognize is a corny joke, but one which has a really distinctive look to it, and isn't distracted by some convoluted justification to make it fit with leap year, required that I get a Sunstone, put a crack in it and stick in an extra day around the edge. In order for it to be the joke it should have been, it needed to have a reasonably real-looking stone. I couldn't use an SVG of the SunStone and just paint in whatever colors I wanted, it needed to look like stone. That meant, considering just how complex an item it is, that I had to either draw it by hand, or trace it, kind of like how Cho did his time travel dinosaur, and his kid on the airplane. So I made a good quality Susntone with a crack and extra piece, and then started to trace over that image; I quickly realized it was going to take until probably Tuesday to get it done. I also realized that it would look good with only 3 colors, including the black shadows. So that's how I made it- I used Vector Magic to get the dark brown and the black shadows, and used my own drawing from my photochopped source of the lighter highlighted portion of the stone. Most of the time and effort put into the design was the critical part- making the high quality photochop of the cracked stone with the extra day stuck into it, and the hand tracing of the highlights of that image so that it looked right- unlike the look of live tracing.
I spent all afternoon Friday working on it, and then that evening, finally going to bed about 1:30 AM, when I had done all but the Vector Magic trace. I did the trace on Saturday morning, in next to no time, prepared my background of the shirt design, and my closeup image, and submitted it that morning. I daresay, few entries in the derby, if any, required more effort than this one did, and frankly I'm pretty annoyed that you would persist with this 'attitude' about tracing. Drop the attitude, and we won't have to defend ourselves for tracing at all.

tgentry


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Josephus wrote:You know, the only reason anyone has to defend themselves is because there is a real attitude here that use of this tool is beneath 'artistes' somehow. Yet, the level of artistry exhibited in the derby otherwise, is for the most part laughable. A few people do some fine work. Edgar McCherly comes to mind. So too, Tgentry. .



Thanks for the nice comment, Josephus. Although I don't usually trace anything I've got no problem with tracing myself (as evidenced by one of my entries this week.) I personally enjoy free handing as much as I can, but sometimes time just doesn't permit, or the design may not call for it. In a design competition it's a means to an end. In a drawing skills competition not so much. But that isn't this.

I think it's just important to be straight up about it and not pass something off as freehand when it's not. I think that's where the problem comes in. You were clearly straight up about what you did with this design, and if there's not a copyright issue I don't really see a problem with it.

sailstud25


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trippregan wrote:Hmm, I'm not sure my computer is doing anything at this point, I used THE WOOT template... but I know what you mean.



wow, the discussion in this thread has all good things to keep in mind as I begin getting interested in trying to create and submit in future derbies.

I liked your idea, and actually accidentally overlooked the errors when I first read it.

Hmm, just went in for 3 Randoms, when I haven't bought any shirts lately (although still checking frequently) so what are the chances of liking them!?! Oh well, couldn't pass up the mystery!
...a number of shirts on teetrade.com

redghia69


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tgentry wrote:This is Maya. I use Maya at home and 3D Studio Max at work. Maya's where it's at though.


I actually paid for a full seat of 3DS4, and later upgraded to 3DS Max 1 – the first windows version – a way back when. Even got paid to use it a couple times. But for anyone just curious right now, I’d recommend blender.org. It’s open source – free – and does far more than my old version of Max. There are tutorials, and plenty else to find if you search. It will import a variety of model formats. Search uTube for “blender 3d” for video samples. I’ve used it very little (so no tech support from me) but was impressed. Steep learning curve, of course.

Sorry if I’m just taking up space. I used to be into the 3D modeling and animation. It’s a good topic. With 3DS and Maya out of reach for most (including myself), I thought this was worth mentioning.

Vote now, design shirts tomorrow – and then go check out blender!

catvet6


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hookajoe wrote:it must suck to have a left hand attached to your right arm




that wuz teh funneh, i just realized that *giggles*

catvet6


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catvet6 wrote:that wuz teh funneh, i just realized that *giggles*


that wuz teh funneh

tgentry


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redghia69 wrote:I actually paid for a full seat of 3DS4, and later upgraded to 3DS Max 1 – the first windows version – a way back when. Even got paid to use it a couple times. But for anyone just curious right now, I’d recommend blender.org. It’s open source – free – and does far more than my old version of Max. There are tutorials, and plenty else to find if you search. It will import a variety of model formats. Search uTube for “blender 3d” for video samples. I’ve used it very little (so no tech support from me) but was impressed. Steep learning curve, of course.

Sorry if I’m just taking up space. I used to be into the 3D modeling and animation. It’s a good topic. With 3DS and Maya out of reach for most (including myself), I thought this was worth mentioning.

Vote now, design shirts tomorrow – and then go check out blender!



I bought a student priced version of Maya when I was in college (in fact one of the first things I did was that monkey head in my sig). It's an old version now, but still powerful. I've never tried Blender, but I've seen some great stuff with it.

redghia69


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Iambusyeating wrote:According to ShirtDerbyStats the giraffes are in the bottom of the fog. I wish CWarrington (or someone) could explain how he comes by this because it looks fascinating.


I’d have guessed Math and Giraffes were tops, as they’ve been consistently in the “hotness” throughout, with the other two trading places in that list. But then I see the giraffes got a later start in the fog.

Looks like shirtderbystats may be trying to estimate the relative scores for the fog, but doesn’t pretend to try to guess the spread between 4 and 5 – at least not after 3.5 days without anyone dropping out. It just knows that #4 has at least one more vote than #5, and that's what it shows. I guess there’s only one way to find out….

waacodemon


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Re: Fake ID, anyone?



ha!

I once ate a cricket.

brizz


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redghia69 wrote:I’d have guessed Math and Giraffes were tops, as they’ve been consistently in the “hotness” throughout, with the other two trading places in that list. But then I see the giraffes got a later start in the fog.

Looks like shirtderbystats may be trying to estimate the relative scores for the fog, but doesn’t pretend to try to guess the spread between 4 and 5 – at least not after 3.5 days without anyone dropping out. It just knows that #4 has at least one more vote than #5, and that's what it shows. I guess there’s only one way to find out….


Lemmings just knocked stonehenge out....nothing can stop em now! Giraffes are next!

yodafool8


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Re: Just because.....



Finally in the fog!! I voted with both my woot! accounts, I REALLY hope this shirt places!!!

goodedesign


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ok, been a while since i've been on here... just thought i'd chime in... this derby's fog 5UCK5.

For the record, the stone henge & mayan/incan calendar & this one should have been much higher up.

[url=http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=8016]

mjc613


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eyeslikesugar wrote:What do the art nerds wear?


Whatever is clean and fits.