- 8/27/2009 11:42 AM
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papacrazyfoot wrote:can someone explain the whole incidental text thing? i'm sorry but this site often looks as though they reject anything that gets brought to their attention regardless or not if there's a legitimate concern.
It's text that's part of the design, but not necessary for understanding what's going on. So the numbers/letters on a deck of cards would be incidental most of the time.
"Stop" written on a stop sign would be incidental because you know a stop sign from the shape and color, and the word is just part of the design of the object.
Things in a thought balloon might or might not be incidental. If it's just an embellishment of what's going on ("OUCH!") it might be fine, but if the text is the punchline, then it's not incidental.
Some things are a judgement call as to whether the text is incidental or not, and that's up to Woot to decide. I doubt that they reject anything that's brought to their attention though, because I suspect there are people who tattle a heck of a lot.
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- 8/27/2009 3:03 PM
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papacrazyfoot wrote:Ok but what is the relevancy of the rule. Is it there to serve any purpose or was it put into place because the author was attempting to justify their job. The numbers in this piece are actual personified characters. The most important thing in this is the interaction of these characters. If the rule makers can't recognize this how long will it be before personifications of animals or inanimate objects are outlawed for equally inexplicable reasons.
I mean if they were protecting their site against offensive images or copyright infringement or just limiting the shirts to things they can actually produce, I could understand. But random acts of censorship seem a little totalitarian for what seems like such a light and airy website.
Numbers are considered text. The design revolves around the numbers. Easy rejection. No matter how you fancy up a text, the main selling point of this design, then it's gone. Plus it's their site. They can reject whatever they want. Boom! Just like that.
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- 8/27/2009 7:15 PM
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papacrazyfoot wrote:Ok but what is the relevancy of the rule. Is it there to serve any purpose or was it put into place because the author was attempting to justify their job. The numbers in this piece are actual personified characters. The most important thing in this is the interaction of these characters. If the rule makers can't recognize this how long will it be before personifications of animals or inanimate objects are outlawed for equally inexplicable reasons.
I mean if they were protecting their site against offensive images or copyright infringement or just limiting the shirts to things they can actually produce, I could understand. But random acts of censorship seem a little totalitarian for what seems like such a light and airy website.
The rule is there because it was part of the derby to begin with. The choices are that text is allowed, absolutely no text at all, or incidental text only. That's announced when the theme is announced. It's not an act of censorship, it's part of the game.
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- 8/28/2009 12:52 AM
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eHalcyon wrote:The most important part in the design is that the characters are numbers - otherwise there would be no joke and the (already tenuous) connection to the theme would be gone completely. Regardless of personification or anything else that is done to the numbers, it's still text at the end of the day. And since it's integral to the design concept, it does not get a pass as "incidental".
As others have mentioned, the text/no-text rules are just another part of the derby. Why do we have to follow the theme? Because there's a theme to follow. Why can't we have text? Because text isn't allowed. It's that kind of thing. Most derbies are "no text" and a few derbies are "incidental text". Very, very rarely, "text" is allowed in its entirety. But very rarely.
In the end, the shirt got rejected for text because it was the easist rejection. (In case anyone lost track of the one in question, it's the shirt where the numbers personified the joke that six was afraid because seven ate nine,) However, if it wasn't rejected for text, it had a pretty tenuous connection to the school theme.
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- 8/28/2009 1:43 AM
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Re: Just concentrate... yeah right!
Aww. I woulda bought this. Oh well.
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