FrossetMareritt wrote:It's funny how people are feeding the anger (or anger-like posts) when it boils down to one person misreading a post and other people fueling it. I was trying to ask if the shirts were pulled from some site or of they go to a site once they leave the Reckoning list. I was not on my computer when I was typing my question, I was on a ~1.5" touch screen, which means I really couldn't get in as much as I wanted to say without wanting to pull out my hair.
Asking questions would have helped cut down on assuming if I had ill intent or not; however, logic should have said that if I was going to illegally produce my own t-shirt for me to wear (not to sell), then I would have done so and forwent asking the very place that once sold it.
What I meant by spending extra money is that if there was a way to get Woot to produce a shirt off the list, is that it would cost you more. than any shirt currently on the Reckoning list. What I was saying about Zazzle is that I COULD make one but I would rather not.
Thank you Xaz for answering my question. The rest of you, who were ready to get out the digital rope so you can have a forum lynching need to learn to ask questions and stop jumping to conclusions.
...and Xaz, he would be correct; a he that sells legal insurance and wouldn't dream of doing something illegal like people are suggesting that would get his license taken away by the state insurance commissioner.
The onus is on the person asking the questions to make his intent clear from the beginning. You, as the originator of the "conversation," have a responsibility to compose your comment/questions in clear language. You say, as an excuse, that you were typing from a little touchscreen and so are absolved from responsibility for the interpretation of your own message. No, sir. What you write now, when compared to what you wrote originally, is a completely different thing. Your original message advertised ignorance/ill intent: "is there a way I can use my own money to get one made?" "I'm guessing I could take the picture and put it on a t-shirt over at Zazzle.com", "maybe people can get an old woot t-shirt that fell off the list custom made, which would probably cost more". This was the fault of your writing. While it is understandable that the method used to write your message was frustrating, it also indicates that it would have been a better idea to wait to write your post until you were capable of thinking and writing it clearly. If doing an illegal activity such as what you presented in your first post could mean your license being taken away, then it is your responsibility to make sure that you do not present yourself as one interested in such an illegal activity.
It also does not help that people have asked how to go about doing this, in the woot forums, before. And, more recently, selling self-made woot designs on ebay. So, yes, logic will dictate that some people who want to do illegal things will do illegal things publicly. Thus, when coming upon someone who has framed his comment as the intent to do something illegal (ignorance or ill intent, both work), it is imperative to shut that down immediately. At least, it is for those who deeply care about the community and the artists/company (as Adder has shown himself to care passionately).
EclecticMuse wrote:And for what it's worth, your original post could have been construed as you proposing to do something illegal; but I think politely asking if we had read that right (with the disclaimer that what we thought you were suggesting was illegal) could have avoided this whole mess.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt and accepting that you are brand new here (and not just another artist posing behind a mask), I advise you that it would behoove you to familiarize yourself with the community before laying about your judgments. While I, myself, have not even been here a full year, I have been schooled and informed by many of the regulars and old-timers on the history and community of woot. I have also witnessed many occasions of people displaying blatant ignorance (yes, I have incidences of my own stupidity within that) and disrespect for the artistic copyright/method/community. There comes a point where one no longer has the patience to politely asks "oh, hey, is there really a wolf this time or are you crying wolf again, like everyone else has?" You just treat it as yet another "false wolf"--because it usually is.
