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AttilaTheMom wrote:Has anyone else noticed that the submission guidelines have changed? Now they only give you the pantone colors (does GIMP support those? what are the hex value equivalents?)

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantone

Intellectual property

Pantone asserts that their lists of color numbers and pigment values are the intellectual property of Pantone and free use of the list is not allowed.[4] This is frequently held as a reason why Pantone colors cannot be supported in Open Source software such as GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) and are not often found in low-cost software.

Well that sucks. I guess that shuts me out of the Derby.

AlexIAm wrote:Pantone is the standard for printing inks... Hex is Web/screen color only... there are millions of colors available on-screen, but only a couple thousand for print.

I was willing to be limited to the couple dozen cloth colors available for me to use as the background color of my detail and comp images, as long as they gave the RGB values for them. Now that they only specify Pantone values for the cloth, I'm SOL. So long, Derby, it was fun.

no1 wrote:Well that sucks. I guess that shuts me out of the Derby.

I think you could probably use a close hex approximation and include a note with your spot colors as Pantone colors, maybe?

http://www.sandaleo.com/pantone.asp

Mr. no1 I believe they are merely saying that if you wanted you can have pantone colors.
as the above post says you can get as close as you can in gimp to that color then email woot and tell them the exact pantone you want to replace it with.
Design Guidelines:

Maximum 16" x 20" design dimensions
Maximum of 6 spot colors
Gradients and halftones are strongly discouraged, for now
If you have specific Pantone colors in mind, include a note in your print-ready file

no1 wrote:I was willing to be limited to the couple dozen cloth colors available for me to use as the background color of my detail and comp images, as long as they gave the RGB values for them. Now that they only specify Pantone values for the cloth, I'm SOL. So long, Derby, it was fun.

Try these that Jack created... all rgb and ready to go...

http://shirt.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=1517039&PageIndex=1&ReplyCount=24

hotcha42 wrote:I think you could probably use a close hex approximation and include a note with your spot colors as Pantone colors, maybe?

http://www.sandaleo.com/pantone.asp

Thanks, that's a helpful link. So is no1's wiki link. I was mainly concerned with getting the background shirt colors right, but it helps to find out where to specify other colors. Especially since woot can occasionally tweak the colors when printing. Nothing ever looks exactly as it does on your screen though.

phaedracook wrote:I love the execution, but it makes me feel so sad for Poor Pumpkin-Headed Boy. *sniff*

I'm sure Sad Vlad would be happy to keep him company.



Scary creatures need to stick together, if they hope to find true love and understanding.

no1 wrote:...Now that they only specify Pantone values for the cloth, I'm SOL. So long, Derby, it was fun.

I may be wrong on this, but they aren't printing the shirt color, so you not having access to Pantone colors shouldn't exclude you from participating. Just grab their template and work from it without worrying about the Pantone values of the cloth layers. I imagine they are being provided because the people who work in Pantone colors have asked for it. Why there are no hex values anymore, I don't know. If they specifically don't want them used anymore, then ignore this:



Otherwise, download it and save it and refer to it when needed.

As for the Pantone values of the colors that you are using, in Photoshop which I'm sure they'll use on Photoshop compatible files, you can take a ink bottle sample of a color, double click on the color swatch, choose "other libraries" and from whatever library you choose the program will suggest a closest color value to what you have. Make note of the color and move to the next.

I've never printed screens before, but I would imagine that having each color on its own layer would make separating them to print to screen easier as you would just turn off all but one layer, print it, turn it off and another on, print, etc. up to 4 more times. I'm sure it's more complicated than that, but if you stick to working with one layer per color it'll probably help. And it'll make it easier to see just how many colors you are using.

Edit: I just looked at the submission requirements and they ask you to please use Pantone Solid Coated colors. But if you don't, they will match the best they can. Those of you not using Pantone should be fine:



If you don't like the final printed colors they choose, and didn't use Pantone, then all they ask is that you don't whine.

no1 wrote:I was willing to be limited to the couple dozen cloth colors available for me to use as the background color of my detail and comp images, as long as they gave the RGB values for them. Now that they only specify Pantone values for the cloth, I'm SOL. So long, Derby, it was fun.

no1, this is what I read when I went to the submission page just now, the link to 'what?' on the design:
"Please use Pantone Solid Coated color swatches for your design or else we will have to convert your colors. We'll do our best to color match, but they may not be perfect. No whining."

so, it's OK.

Josephus wrote:I think this is really a cool shirt, and got my vote just now. THere are a couple of things you can do to help your supporting jpgs. First, make them exactly the size they want- 240 X 240 for the detail image, and 600X600 for the shirt image. Second, and just as important, when you save the jpgs, do not give it any compression at all. When woot takes it, they'll compress it, and the double whammy of you compressing it, even a little, and then their extra compression will just mangle the details.
I think that'll tkae care of the issue for you- it did for me.

well thanks thats what answer I was lookin for. just a little help guys and girls .

Did a little work on the stats site (http://shirtstats.com) today...
Titled the Derby Charts

• Added Top VPH, Hotness, FOG stats to Entry Landing Page
  
• Split Active and Inactive Entries to reduce loading times
  
• Tooltip rollover on all entries for quick and easy stat viewage.
  

"Print-Ready File"? What is this?
In order for us to print your shirt, we'll need you to provide a detailed 16"x20" 300 DPI file layered with each color on a separate layer in AI, PSD, SVG or PDF format. We will also accept a ZIP archive.
If your graphic or ZIP turns out to be larger than 3 MB you can use this form to submit your design and shirt comp then email the print-ready file to us directly at derby@woot.com. However, if you email us your graphic, make sure to include the submitted design's title as well as your username in the message.
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So the rest of my question was, do you have to do anything special to get your designs layered with each color on a separate layer? I'm not good at working with layers in Gimp yet.

Wangus8 wrote:
Help Me, I’ve Fallen Through the Cracks and Nobody Looks Down the Derby Loading Page Far Enough to See Me!

Robot Parade by veloxvulpes: I really liked this shirt. There is something so special about the detail that can be seen in this shirt that I appreciate. The details, and by details I mean things like the clown robot having a piece of candy on its mouth or the pirate robot still having to make room for it’s antennae or the ghost only have one optical eye, remind me of the details of the ghosts in killopo’s design this week. I think that unlike killopo’s (and no offense to an obviously great designer as killopo), this shirt is much more appreciable without the details and is just enhanced by them.
Verdict: Wonderful.

Wangus8, I'm absolutely flattered, and am thrilled that you like Robot Parade so much. Thank you for the kind comments and constructive observations!

JCBarry wrote:Did a little work on the stats site (http://shirtstats.com) today...
Titled the Derby Charts

• Added Top VPH, Hotness, FOG stats to Entry Landing Page
  
• Split Active and Inactive Entries to reduce loading times
  
• Tooltip rollover on all entries for quick and easy stat viewage.
  

Don't forget to register and create your own personal dashboard where you can monitor all the shirts you want in a 1 stop location. Also coming soon to registered users, fog email alerts, so you know exactly when your entry made it into the fog or when it left.

Keep the suggestions coming and I'll keep fiddling with the site.
Don't forget to visit (http://shirtstats.com).
Thanks!

Thanks a lot for creating and updating this site!
I actually prefer it to looking at the official derby page (it loads a lot faster!)
And it's also interesting to see the votes per hour list... some lower level ones can show up there, too.

edit: Yes, the shirtstats site loads approximately 20 times faster than shirt.woot.com/derby. No exaggeration.

AttilaTheMom wrote:"Print-Ready File"? What is this?
In order for us to print your shirt, we'll need you to provide a detailed 16"x20" 300 DPI file layered with each color on a separate layer in AI, PSD, SVG or PDF format. We will also accept a ZIP archive.
If your graphic or ZIP turns out to be larger than 3 MB you can use this form to submit your design and shirt comp then email the print-ready file to us directly at derby@woot.com. However, if you email us your graphic, make sure to include the submitted design's title as well as your username in the message.
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So the rest of my question was, do you have to do anything special to get your designs layered with each color on a separate layer? I'm not good at working with layers in Gimp yet.

Save it as a bitmap
Import the bitmap into Inkscape (another free program)
Trace and save as a .svg (vector) file

then you don't have to worry about the layers.

Pensketch wrote:all they ask is that you don't whine.

Josephus wrote:"No whining."

Bah!

no1 wrote:Save it as a bitmap
Import the bitmap into Inkscape (another free program)
Trace and save as a .svg (vector) file

then you don't have to worry about the layers.

Thanks!

AttilaTheMom wrote:...So the rest of my question was, do you have to do anything special to get your designs layered with each color on a separate layer? I'm not good at working with layers in Gimp yet.

Using layers is something that takes getting used to, but once you are used to it you won't know how you got by without them. Hopefully someone with more experience in Gimp will be able to answer your question as to what you would have to do to get your colors on separate layer if you didn't work that way from the start. I'm thinking the best way might be something like "magic lasso (or color select)/copy/paste on new layer", but I don't really know.

no1 wrote:Bah!

Not me! Woot!
Woot Wrote "No Whining!"
Not Joe!

AttilaTheMom wrote:Thanks!

I may have miswritten before when I said you don't have to worry about the layers. When I've traced, the colors didn't always reproduce what was in my original design. Watch out for that.

Pensketch wrote:I imagine they are being provided because the people who work in Pantone colors have asked for it. Why there are no hex values anymore, I don't know.

As someone that lives 90% of my life in the print world I can take an educated guess. Hex values are relative to how well a monitor is calibrated... the exact same Hex value can look different on different screens, thus the whole brown/black shirt problem of the last couple derbies. Pantone colors on the other hand are an internationally accepted standard for printed color... PMS 186 in New York will appear the same in New York as it does in California as it does in China (where the lead content will vary).

I'm sure they provided the pms numbers for those of us that are sticklers for having just the right "shade of gray" in their design.

Got my vote - the only one near the top that I thought...Man I wish I thought of that.

It's striking, clean and funny as heck.

If you don't know the back story,its from an old video game and its been immortalized!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qItugh-fFgg

Josephus wrote:Not me! Woot!
Woot Wrote "No Whining!"
Not Joe!

Got it. When thinking about the Derby and voting, think "Not Joe!"

shinratype26 wrote:Thanks a lot for creating and updating this site!
I actually prefer it to looking at the official derby page (it loads a lot faster!)
And it's also interesting to see the votes per hour list... some lower level ones can show up there, too.

edit: Yes, the shirtstats site loads approximately 20 times faster than shirt.woot.com/derby. No exaggeration.

In woot's defense, the image file storage service they use (AmazonAWS) can be pretty slow at times. Also bear in mind, many fewer people are hitting my site, than hitting the woot sites.

Glad to update it and work on it.

TAYLORT5 wrote:Man I don't really get you. you do the same thing all the time. is it just me.? no offense but ....never mind.

Read back in the forum and you will get it. I didn't actually enter this shirt. It was a joke.

Sorry that you don't get me!

damn, I thought i'd get an honorable mention this week.

JCBarry wrote:Did a little work on the stats site today...

I have a question. I see every thumbnail working except one- my Emberzombie @ Witch. Why did that happen? Did I glitch the system by alternating lowercase and uppercase letters?
Nonetheless, its finally something to make me stand out.

edit: Oh, and there are two more I see now. I wonder why?

cheesesandwich wrote:Read back in the forum and you will get it. I didn't actually enter this shirt. It was a joke.

Sorry that you don't get me!

these guys just don't get you cheesey.

no1 wrote:Got it. When thinking about the Derby and voting, think "Not Joe!"

Oh, I didn't know you'd joined the club! ;^)

Josephus now has the same amount of posts read rightside-up as he does upside-down.
Creepy.

So...if i somehow incorporate a videogame into my design i'll probably win?

InitialSam wrote:So...if i somehow incorporate a videogame into my design i'll probably win?

As long as it's not Britney Spears dance beat,
it might be a good idea.

shinratype26 wrote:I have a question. I see every thumbnail working except one- my Emberzombie @ Witch. Why did that happen? Did I glitch the system by alternating lowercase and uppercase letters?
Nonetheless, its finally something to make me stand out.

edit: Oh, and there are two more I see now. I wonder why?

It's a glitch I definitely need to fix. However, I'm pretty sure that Woot's RSS feed freaks out at weird characters as well and sometimes doesn't have image urls.

It's on the "To do" list. Thanks!

JCBarry wrote:It's a glitch I definitely need to fix. However, I'm pretty sure that Woot's RSS feed freaks out at weird characters as well and sometimes doesn't have image urls.

It's on the "To do" list. Thanks!

Ok, no more ampersands for me. Got it.
Next time I'll submit it as "Emberzombie : ) Witch"

shinratype26 wrote:As long as it's not Britney Spears dance beat,
it might be a good idea.

snort!! I thought you were kidding, but:

Here it is. Maybe Sam can have her just standing like she did at the vma and say shes dancing

cheesesandwich wrote:Read back in the forum and you will get it. I didn't actually enter this shirt. It was a joke.

Sorry that you don't get me!

don't be sorry its just a comment. and I know you didn't enter the shirt. I've seen your other ones. all the same that I seen. but No problem. maybe girls like this sort of thing.

Pensketch wrote:all they ask is that you don't win.

Josephus wrote:"No winning."

This is more like it.

shinratype26 wrote:As long as it's not Britney Spears dance beat,
it might be a good idea.

Hah! I own that game. XD

...Not of my own volition, of course. Friends. :P Gotta love 'em. (Said friend also had a penchant for wrapping such gems in layers upon layers of duct tape. Ahh, good times.)

There's a problem with this design:



You either roast something on a spit or cook it in a pot, not both. Unless they're trying to steam-cook him. Otherwise, the design is great, and I have no troubles with suspension of disbelief regarded anthropomorphic candy. It would just drive me crazy to see this kind of mistake on a derby-winning shirt.

haxrox wrote:There's a problem with this design:



You either roast something on a spit or cook it in a pot, not both. Unless they're trying to steam-cook him. Otherwise, the design is great, and I have no troubles with suspension of disbelief regarded anthropomorphic candy. It would just drive me crazy to see this kind of mistake on a derby-winning shirt.

Maybe they're going to make a gravy with the drippings.