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Failoan wrote:Why must we associate snow with urine. There is like 3 entries on those bases.

3 words.... Lemon.... Snow.... Cones...

Dear wooter, This message is to notify you that your derby entry ('algorithmic snowflake') has been rejected for the following reason: This appears to have more than six grays. Better luck next time!

For the record, there were exactly six shades of gray in this submission, and each one was on a separate layer of the photoshop print-ready file I submitted.

I guess I can't really be too upset, though. Joel has a tough job with the gobs of submissions he gets, and he can't be expected to examine each one carefully. Lesson learned: Woot is like a Box of Chocolates... (or should that be Bandolier of Carrots?) `o^o'

Failoan wrote:Why must we associate snow with urine. There is like 3 entries on those bases.

because men are children

designbyalgorithm wrote:For the record, there were exactly six shades of gray in this submission, and each one was on a separate layer of the photoshop print-ready file I submitted.

I guess I can't really be too upset, though. Joel has a tough job with the gobs of submissions he gets, and he can't be expected to examine each one carefully. Lesson learned: Woot is like a Box of Chocolates... (or should that be Bandolier of Carrots?) `o^o'

Did you explain that in your justification of the entry? I dont know if they read that schlock or not.. but it cant hurt...

snarkygal wrote:because men are children

ARE NOT! NEENER NEENER NEENER So There! lalalalala i'm not listening!

snarkygal wrote:because men are children

Woman can do it too, some of them are rather skilled.....

designbyalgorithm wrote:For the record, there were exactly six shades of gray in this submission, and each one was on a separate layer of the photoshop print-ready file I submitted.

I guess I can't really be too upset, though. Joel has a tough job with the gobs of submissions he gets, and he can't be expected to examine each one carefully. Lesson learned: Woot is like a Box of Chocolates... (or should that be Bandolier of Carrots?) `o^o'

Maybe submitting it with small color swatches on the comp would be useful for letting Joel (and other woot staff) know the colors that you're using. Also, mentioning the color separation and specific pantone colors in the submission description might be helpful. Sorry about the rejection. It's a great design!

Dear wooter, This message is to notify you that your derby entry ('algorithmic snowflake') has been rejected for the following reason: This appears to have more than six grays. Better luck next time!

For the record, there were exactly six shades of gray in this submission, and each one was on a separate layer of the photoshop print-ready file I submitted.

I guess I can't really be too upset, though. Joel has a tough job with the gobs of submissions he gets, and he can't be expected to examine each one carefully. Lesson learned: Woot is like a Box of Chocolates... (or should that be Bandolier of Carrots?) `o^o'

Patchitect wrote:Did you explain that in your justification of the entry? I dont know if they read that schlock or not.. but it cant hurt...

Yes! I emphasized that point in the justification box because I suspected that it might be an issue.

Patchitect wrote:ARE NOT! NEENER NEENER NEENER So There! lalalalala i'm not listening!

you realize Snarky, all we have to do is talk about our chests, and the childlike antics stop...

temporarily.

designbyalgorithm wrote:Yes! I emphasized that point in the justification box because I suspected that it might be an issue.

Soooo.. im guessing we just enter stuff in that box for the fun of it?

JadenKale wrote:you realize Snarky, all we have to do is talk about our chests, and the childlike antics stop...

temporarily.

Yes - we stop being Childlike.. but still be childish...

I love the simplicity of the design and the multi-message symbolism.

klswoot wrote:Maybe submitting it with small color swatches on the comp would be useful for letting Joel (and other woot staff) know the colors that you're using. Also, mentioning the color separation and specific pantone colors in the submission description might be helpful. Sorry about the rejection. It's a great design!

Thanks for the sympathy. I did include pantone color numbers with each layer in the photoshop file, but maybe next time I should repeat them in the comp, too.

designbyalgorithm wrote:Thanks for the sympathy. I did include pantone color numbers with each layer in the photoshop file, but maybe next time I should repeat them in the comp, too.

I dont think they bother looking at the print ready till they are ready to print.. Apparently from some of the recent rejections, they tend to eliminate some without looking at the comp either. Detail image is their first line of rejection, comp second, and they are quick to ax..

Anybody besides me find it interesting that the Hidden Message shirt STILL HASN'T SOLD OUT??????

snarkygal wrote:Anybody besides me find it interesting that the Hidden Message shirt STILL HASN'T SOLD OUT??????

More like "Telling" not "intresting"

snarkygal wrote:Anybody besides me find it interesting that the Hidden Message shirt STILL HASN'T SOLD OUT??????

I don't. I still am not sure how it made it into the fog three times. Nothing against the designer, of course. I'm just mad at all the people who voted for it.

Patchitect wrote:Yes - we stop being Childlike.. but still be childish...

actually Pat, I was waiting for a boobies joke there... XP

snarkygal wrote:Anybody besides me find it interesting that the Hidden Message shirt STILL HASN'T SOLD OUT??????

Well that must be my fault... I refuse to push the "I want one" button...

For some reason, I feel like I'd be lying if I did...

JadenKale wrote:Well that must be my fault... I refuse to push the "I want one" button...

Is there some other meaning behind this? A hidden message perhaps?

So, this is what I've been doing all day - when I haven't been watching the baby:



Worried it'll get killed as too Xmassy. Might just do it as a daily, if Joel will chance it.

aegis72 wrote:So, this is what I've been doing all day - when I haven't been watching the baby:



Worried it'll get killed as too Xmassy. Might just do it as a daily, if Joel will chance it.

woah, I seriously need to learn how to use photoshop correctly.

Great job.

Failoan wrote:woah, I seriously need to learn how to use photoshop correctly.

Great job.

It's Illustrator, mostly. Thanks!

aegis72 wrote:So, this is what I've been doing all day - when I haven't been watching the baby:



Worried it'll get killed as too Xmassy. Might just do it as a daily, if Joel will chance it.

I think this one falls in the "No Lawsuits" catagory....

twoeightnine wrote:Is there some other meaning behind this? A hidden message perhaps?

The hidden message is: I don't like it and don't want it... It's sad, the others would have been much better in its stead. And more deserving IMO

aegis72 wrote:It's Illustrator, mostly. Thanks!

Aegis, all that time, just to find out that it'll be rejected?

*sigh*

How about submitting it elsewhere to a shirt company that will support parodies? It's a really good idea... just probably not for silly-ol'-lawsuit-freaked-woot

snarkygal wrote:Anybody besides me find it interesting that the Hidden Message shirt STILL HASN'T SOLD OUT??????

I do. Being very new to this, I am having a hard time nailing down how the derbies go. There seems to be a lot of shirts in the derby that I can see selling out in a couple of hours on regular woot, but sometimes the ones that win turn out to be not so popular with the general buying public.

Perhaps that is the results when you have a small segment of your customer base that tends to control what is available. Methinks that the derbies draw a lot of attention from the Ninja/Pirate/Zombie fan groups nationwide

JadenKale wrote:The hidden message is: I don't like it and don't want it... It's sad, the others would have been much better in its stead. And more deserving IMO

Still.. better this then imaginary holiday!

clintondavidn wrote:I do. Being very new to this, I am having a hard time nailing down how the derbies go. There seems to be a lot of shirts in the derby that I can see selling out in a couple of hours on regular woot, but sometimes the ones that win turn out to be not so popular with the general buying public.

Perhaps that is the results when you have a small segment of your customer base that tends to control what is available. Methinks that the derbies draw a lot of attention from the Ninja/Pirate/Zombie fan groups nationwide

I think its because people tend to vote on the image. They dont judge the submissions by if the submissions are suited for a shirt, and would they wear it. In most derbies I have seen, theres been lots of great submissions that are worthy of printing, yet they lost to some that really isn't on par.

Oddly I think it has something to do with the thumbnails. Making a thumbnail to represent your design is hard. Considering if its not done right, it won't get the attention it deserves.

Overall I think that this derby is MUCH better than the last one. There are actually multiple ones that I would purchase. Also, from my limited experience, the designs seem more original.

Special love to: (sorry don't know all the names)

** the geisha one (very artistic)

** the snowman/snowglobe woman one (nice, the type of skirt that people comment on)

** to pee or not to pee one (I agree with the person that says it has a Charlie Brown feel)

** sperm whale one (incredibly artistic, and I want something that says 'sperm' to win the derby hee hee)

** ski lift (has a nice feel to it, though it is a little hard to believe it's totally original, not accusing!! just seems like the kind of shirt you have seen somewhere before)


I am surprised there are not more igloos/arctic stuff. Not one eskimo that I can think of . . .that could have been cute

edited because I grazed the offerings again and saw I needed to add one

Failoan wrote:I think its because people tend to vote on the image. They dont judge the submissions by if the submissions are suited for a shirt, and would they wear it. In most derbies I have seen, theres been lots of great submissions that are worthy of printing, yet they lost to some that really isn't on par.

Oddly I think it has something to do with the thumbnails. Making a thumbnail to represent your design is hard. Considering if its not done right, it won't get the attention it deserves.

I think it also has to do with timing of submission, etc..
sometimes its easy for something to get lost in the forest of submissions, or the rush of the start off.. or just lost because it was submitted while everyone was driving home and no one noticed...

Failoan wrote:I think its because people tend to vote on the image. They dont judge the submissions by if the submissions are suited for a shirt, and would they wear it.

Yup. 99% of the time I will only vote if I'd actually wear the shirt. There's an occasional piece of art that I'll throw a vote to if I find it amazing.

Hidden Message was excellent in idea but horrible (to me) in execution. I'd never wear a shirt that said "Hidden Message Day" and would probably laugh at someone wearing it. I can't see people coming up to you and folding it or even folding it myself to show people. I struggled enough trying to fold the Mad pages perfectly, a shirt is going to be even harder.

Patchitect wrote:I think this one falls in the "No Lawsuits" catagory....

Ehhh... Fivebucks is 100% worse, and they did it.

aegis72 wrote:Ehhh... Fivebucks is 100% worse, and they did it.

yea, but I thought it fell squarely under the parody clause

Gosh! I'm pretty new at photoshop still and I was wondering.....

Get ready for noob question....

How do you do black thin lines to outline your character? Is it a trick with the pen tool i just don't know?

WonderWooter wrote:yea, but I thought it fell squarely under the parody clause

Exactly - it's hard to draw the line there, because the "parody" thing is hard to define. My piece is 100% original art (in that it isn't a trace or what not) and I could always say "It's a statement about how the holidays have become crazy commercialized. Or how a war machine has been turned instead into a cute and loveable beast of burden."

Hell, they didn't 86 Pumpkintrooper.

aegis72 wrote:Ehhh... Fivebucks is 100% worse, and they did it.

I'd actually argue that Fivebucks is more obviously a parody, which is why Woot might worry about printing yours. There's a website (shop.starwars.com) that allows users to customize their own Star Wars shirts, often adding humorous captions and juxtapositions. Since Star Wars is effectively creating their own parody merchandise, they might see the parody work of other sites as a potential loss of revenue (and thus legally actionable).

A lot of other sites have parodies of Star Wars stuff, but Woot has (I think) so far been rejecting them out of hand. I think the Star Wars site I linked might be part of the reason.

ElectricFever wrote:Gosh! I'm pretty new at photoshop still and I was wondering.....

Get ready for noob question....

How do you do black thin lines to outline your character? Is it a trick with the pen tool i just don't know?

there's a couple of different ways, you can line it by selecting the layer you want to line and go to Layer Style and then Stroke. Otherwise, you can stroke it by drawing with the pen tool and right clicking on your line and selecting Stroke Path.

geekfactor12 wrote:I'd actually argue that Fivebucks is more obviously a parody, which is why Woot might worry about printing yours. There's a website (shop.starwars.com) that allows users to customize their own Star Wars shirts, often adding humorous captions and juxtapositions. Since Star Wars is effectively creating their own parody merchandise, they might see the parody work of other sites as a potential loss of revenue (and thus legally actionable).

A lot of other sites have parodies of Star Wars stuff, but Woot has (I think) so far been rejecting them out of hand. I think the Star Wars site I linked might be part of the reason.

neat. didn't know they were doing that. in any case, i drew it mostly for fun.

JadenKale wrote:there's a couple of different ways, you can line it by selecting the layer you want to line and go to Layer Style and then Stroke. Otherwise, you can stroke it by drawing with the pen tool and right clicking on your line and selecting Stroke Path.

Stroke Patch?.. oh.. Path... i misread...