Shirt.Woot

allawayr wrote:That's a good idea! It probably wouldn't be too well received over there... =\

Let's go see....

=)

It does seem that too many people are bickering over it because of the money.

allawayr wrote:=)

It does seem that too many people are bickering over it because of the money.

Have you seen some of those photochop entries? So many of them are wicked awesome. I believe those guys do it for fun, and the money prize is just a fun bonus. I even thing some people try to get "the monkey prize" on purpose.

Money makes people crazy. The difference between $100/$50/$20 and $500+$2/shirt after the first day is like the slot machine wheels of money flashing in your eyes. Maybe it's just me seeing this through my "I got a day job to pay the bills" mindset, but I really don't think woot shirts can really be anyone's primary source of income.

bfassburg wrote:That would kill the motivation of good designers too. That reckoning thread is too many words to read in a few minutes so I think I will pass. Do I really need to know what people think about shirts that have already been printed anyways?

True. I think it's a double-edged sword... people who can't crack the fog who are not designers get discouraged. And designers that work really hard are losing out to amateurs for little payout, which makes them discouraged. I think Woot should stay as the chosen t-shirt design contest for the up-and-coming artist (and artists in training). Leave the professional ultra-detailed stuff to Designed by Humans and Threadless and other sites.

kenney9226 wrote:Have you seen some of those photochop entries? So many of them are wicked awesome. I believe those guys do it for fun, and the money prize is just a fun bonus. I even thing some people try to get "the monkey prize" on purpose.

Money makes people crazy. The difference between $100/$50/$20 and $500+$2/shirt after the first day is like the slot machine wheels of money flashing in your eyes. Maybe it's just me seeing this through my "I got a day job to pay the bills" mindset, but I really don't think woot shirts can really be anyone's primary source of income.

I suppose people that make a living off of designing (not just woot shirts) might need that money - but you're right, it does make people crazy.

kenney9226 wrote:Have you seen some of those photochop entries? So many of them are wicked awesome. I believe those guys do it for fun, and the money prize is just a fun bonus. I even thing some people try to get "the monkey prize" on purpose.

Money makes people crazy. The difference between $100/$50/$20 and $500+$2/shirt after the first day is like the slot machine wheels of money flashing in your eyes. Maybe it's just me seeing this through my "I got a day job to pay the bills" mindset, but I really don't think woot shirts can really be anyone's primary source of income.

The money is good if you're lucky to get it on shirt.woot, but it can't be dependable unless you're REALLY good. But I can't tell you how much time people probably put into entries that don't get even 20 votes... it's the lure of the cash, which is pretty big.

SkekTek wrote:

The money is good if you're lucky to get it on shirt.woot, but it can't be dependable unless you're REALLY good. But I can't tell you how much time people probably put into entries that don't get even 20 votes... it's the lure of the cash, which is pretty big.

If my "coffee stain pucker of doom" had been printed, with a $500 prize, dividing that by the time I have put in for all of my entries thus far, works out to less than $2.00 per hour.

Clearly, there are other reasons why people (okay, I) enter the derby.

kenney9226 wrote:If my "coffee stain pucker of doom" had been printed, with a $500 prize, dividing that by the time I have put in for all of my entries thus far, works out to less than $2.00 per hour.

Clearly, there are other reasons why people (okay, I) enter the derby.

You should get that printed up after 60 days...

allawayr wrote:You should get that printed up after 60 days...

Yes, but then I'd know exactly how many really sold, and I'd bet it'd be a lot fewer than 330... I prefer to not know and believe it would have been great.

SkekTek wrote:

The money is good if you're lucky to get it on shirt.woot, but it can't be dependable unless you're REALLY good. But I can't tell you how much time people probably put into entries that don't get even 20 votes... it's the lure of the cash, which is pretty big.

I know I have submitted stuff that didn't get 20 votes and it wasn't for the money. But, there are people out there who might have good designs that they simply wouldn't submit to a site that sells $10 shirts if there wasn't some financial gain.

kenney9226 wrote:If my "coffee stain pucker of doom" had been printed, with a $500 prize, dividing that by the time I have put in for all of my entries thus far, works out to less than $2.00 per hour.

Clearly, there are other reasons why people (okay, I) enter the derby.

Me too... Who'd have thunk that I would win?!?!?!

SkekTek wrote:Me too... Who'd have thunk that I would win?!?!?!

DON'T GO OVER TO THE RECKONING THREAD!! My "less is more" idea is getting creamed! And thus supporting my argument.

Why is it that with each post, I can see my chances getting slimmer?

kenney9226 wrote:DON'T GO OVER TO THE RECKONING THREAD!! My "less is more" idea is getting creamed! And thus supporting my argument.

Why is it that with each post, I can see my chances getting slimmer?

Am I getting slammed too?

Hey, while you're here.... Check this out and see what you think. I'm just starting to set it up.

SkekTek wrote:Am I getting slammed too?

Hey, while you're here.... Check this out and see what you think. I'm just starting to set it up.

I think your banner could be a little more elegant, especially for a seasoned chopper like yourself. Good start though.

wait, GO OVER TO THE RECKONING THREAD!

I got a great idea that is sure to please!!

SkekTek wrote:

Hey, while you're here.... Check this out and see what you think. I'm just starting to set it up.

you know my comment: not enough plump red lips!

Iambusyeating wrote:I think your banner could be a little more elegant, especially for a seasoned chopper like yourself. Good start though.

They wanted one right away, so I slapped something hastily together. I'm still trying to get the Feb30th thing through- it keeps getting rejected, and I'm running out of time!

I envision the logo will have a real amakihi in it:

kenney9226 wrote:you know my comment: not enough plump red lips!

Yes, but those are your purvew, and I would never presume to profit off of your meme.

SkekTek wrote:Yes, but those are your purvew, and I would never presume to profit off of your meme.

You know that you, v8r, Mr. Sephus, No1, and the Admiral are among the few who can totally take advantage of it (not that you'd really want to) and I'd take it as an honor.

Now get out of here before you see me wipe this tear of happiness from my eye, you big softie!

kenney9226 wrote:You know that you, v8r, Mr. Sephus, No1, and the Admiral are among the few who can totally take advantage of it (not that you'd really want to) and I'd take it as an honor.

Now get out of here before you see me wipe this tear of happiness from my eye, you big softie!

Spreadshirt is pretty easy to set up... if I get it up and running, I'd be willing to host other people's designs there as well. If their accounting is halfway organized, it would be easy to paypal individual designers what they earn. But if you do, make sure you read the rules for vector art CAREFULLY. They're very strict, and of the 5 designs I have submitted, only two have been accepted. The prices there are pretty good, considering the level of detail they offer, even with a $2 commission for moi.

BTW- I talked to several people and they said that algae in a goldfish tank is unsightly, but a good sign that the fish are healthy and in a good tank. I'm still gonna do water changes to get the ick out though.

SkekTek wrote:BTW- I talked to several people and they said that algae in a goldfish tank is unsightly, but a good sign that the fish are healthy and in a good tank. I'm still gonna do water changes to get the ick out though.

I've got fish and aquatic turtles (and dogs) and I've been told that you shouldn't change more than 20% of the water at one time because you don't want to remove the beneficial bacteria either, not to mention that temperature shock from complete water changes can kill the fish. Are you a new fish owner?

dontwantaname wrote:What is going on? The tank has gotten cloudy.

I just bought a new tiny all in one tank. I get to put the catfish back in it tonight.
Maybe I'll get a betta.

Bettas are cute but they always get their fins nipped if you have them in with other fish. poor little guys.

dontwantaname wrote:What is going on? The tank has gotten cloudy.

I just bought a new tiny all in one tank. I get to put the catfish back in it tonight.
Maybe I'll get a betta.

I usually use a water purifier here at work to do water changes. Unbenownst to me, it has contracted a case of algaeitis. So when I took the mostly pure water with a bit of algae in it and dumped it in a fertile, non-purified atmosphere of fish, the algae went ape and turned my water green. My webcam ain't the best, so it looks cloudy. But it is most definitely green. So now I'm water changing using treated tap until they can fix the purifier. Eventually I may have to do a whole-tank water change if it doesn't calm down (fish go out, water completely removed and filter changed, water back in, fish back in).

I just did that a few weeks ago. It got worse. Bought a new filter. Filter is making noise, gotta bring it back.
Bought a tiny new tank , three gal, it was scratched. Exchanged it yesterday and set it up.
My sole surviving fish goes in tonight. One new fish, most likely a beta, will be bought tomorrow.

All this because the kids won goldfish in 1993 or so. Had to set up a real tank with a filter. Got a catfish. The goldfish lasted 10 years. The catfish refused to die, so I got guppies.
The guppies reproduced to the point that there was a overpopulation explosion which led to the expected die off.
Except for the catfish.
Thought about giving up and flushing the catfish....no, he would haunt me.
Which led to the buying of a whole new system.

But.... after the next big spruce up of the house, with new rugs, I will set up a real 20 gallon long or 30 gallon tank. I bought a nonreturnable tank stand already.

SkekTek wrote:I usually use a water purifier here at work to do water changes. Unbenownst to me, it has contracted a case of algaeitis. So when I took the mostly pure water with a bit of algae in it and dumped it in a fertile, non-purified atmosphere of fish, the algae went ape and turned my water green. My webcam ain't the best, so it looks cloudy. But it is most definitely green. So now I'm water changing using treated tap until they can fix the purifier. Eventually I may have to do a whole-tank water change if it doesn't calm down (fish go out, water completely removed and filter changed, water back in, fish back in).

so not a new fish owner.

bfassburg wrote:so not a new fish owner.

No, but the first time I've had this level of algae problem...

Where's spryte been?!?

SkekTek wrote:No, but the first time I've had this level of algae problem...

Where's spryte been?!?

Sounds crazy. My turtles grow a nice coat of algae on their backs so no matter what I do it is everywhere. They can handle the total water changes pretty well though.

bfassburg wrote:Sounds crazy. My turtles grow a nice coat of algae on their backs so no matter what I do it is everywhere. They can handle the total water changes pretty well though.

The fish have been losing their little gold minds. Water changes stir up a lot of stuff, and they've been having a field day scooping it all up. The little freaks.

SkekTek wrote:Where's spryte been?!?

She's been working. And lurking. :p

SkekTek wrote:The fish have been losing their little gold minds. Water changes stir up a lot of stuff, and they've been having a field day scooping it all up. The little freaks.

you should get a couple of those catfish they call 'algae eaters'.
maybe turn the lights down. also, there's some kind of copper solution that doesn't affect animals that will kill the algae dead, dead, dead. My dad puts it in his 1/4 acre pond, works great.

Josephus wrote:you should get a couple of those catfish they call 'algae eaters'.
maybe turn the lights down. also, there's some kind of copper solution that doesn't affect animals that will kill the algae dead, dead, dead. My dad puts it in his 1/4 acre pond, works great.

Hey Joe can you check your email pls thx

Josephus wrote:you should get a couple of those catfish they call 'algae eaters'.
maybe turn the lights down. also, there's some kind of copper solution that doesn't affect animals that will kill the algae dead, dead, dead. My dad puts it in his 1/4 acre pond, works great.

I got the lights set to daytime hours, so I got it as brief as possible without covering the entire tank with foil (what another faculty occasionally does.

I'll investigate the algacide solution...

shan24 wrote:Hey Joe can you check your email pls thx

I did, I did!
-man.

Josephus wrote:I did, I did!
-man.

Heh sometimes I have to resort to extreme measures

shan24 wrote:Heh sometimes I have to resort to extreme measures

I may have to do the same for my t-shirt design this week... eek.

kenney9226 wrote:You know that you, v8r, Mr. Sephus, No1, and the Admiral are among the few who can totally take advantage of it (not that you'd really want to) and I'd take it as an honor.

I'm honored, Mr. Kneny. *snif*

SkekTek wrote:I may have to do the same for my t-shirt design this week... eek.

I'd say you're doing just a tad bit better than me this week however!

no1, a member of the 'club', wrote:I'm honored, Mr. Kneny. *snif*

gosh, me too. sadly, I'm not evil enough to take nefarious advantage of the pucker(s).