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eyeslikesugar wrote:VOTE for the lemmings! It's awesome to see such a late entry climb the ranks. =) Red, You don't mind if I added a vote button to my sig, do you?
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Are you kidding? I’ve been following the derby for a while, and there are certain things that I’d hoped I’d someday see about one of my designs, like little milestones: Someone saying “well done” on the execution, someone actually saying “I’d buy that!” or some variation (there’s a first for everything!), someone mentioning the word “daily” under my design (other shirt), and someone, someday, actually adding my voter button to their sig. And there it is, right by the bouncing chinchilla! And did you see what tgentry wrote? Whatever happens, I’ve gotten far more out of this derby than I could have ever asked. Thanks for your encouragement – and the added visibility!

Re: Do the Math

This shirt makes my head hurt.

yeeter wrote:KenSPT, this design once again proves that cute and fuzzy animals will get votes no matter what.

Agreed, 100% agreed ...

redghia69 wrote:... drove a red 1969 karmann ghia before moving north, hence the screen name

I love this design (as well as your screen name... was figuring you had the car; I'd love to have a car like that someday, but fear I'm too many generations behind it, since that car's almost twice as old as me)
Anyway, had hopes of you doing well, but feared like you did at first that it was too late. Come on fog! I wanna buy this one!

atlinden wrote:I really like this shirt and I really like your shirts that are this style KLS. I think it is a good thing to have a style that people can recognize. Think about famous artist in history and tell me that they don't have a style that is their own that makes their work easy to pick out of a crowd. But I will say this about the shirt. I do like the placement but i feel that the image on the shirt makes it look like the design might be a bit too big. I fell like a shirt with the design placed near the shoulder or one of the corners should spill over too much into the center of the shirt. Maybe if the streams coming off the main design did more that would be fine but it seems to me that the main portions of the design is too big for that maybe its because of the text. I also feel that the text over complicates the image a bit but it also works well the way you did it. Just thought I would try and throw some constructive but friendly criticism into the forum. I will say I think this is a very good looking drawing though I just thing parts of it don't quit seem to transfer over to the shirt. But I really like shirts with placements like this one, centered shirts are boring. But good job and good luck on this and your future entries.

Thank you very much. I appreciate your taking the time to leave feedback. I agree with you on many points and if I had the choice, I'd not add text to my designs. But, I felt it needed to be included to make the design more derby relevant. I also agree that the design might be too large for the current placement. I was afraid that if I went too small, the text would be too difficult to read and would print poorly.

Thank you again. Your comments are very useful and I appreciate them!

redghia69 wrote:Are you kidding? I’ve been following the derby for a while, and there are certain things that I’d hoped I’d someday see about one of my designs, like little milestones: Someone saying “well done” on the execution, someone actually saying “I’d buy that!” or some variation (there’s a first for everything!), someone mentioning the word “daily” under my design (other shirt), and someone, someday, actually adding my voter button to their sig. And there it is, right by the bouncing chinchilla! And did you see what tgentry wrote? Whatever happens, I’ve gotten far more out of this derby than I could have ever asked. Thanks for your encouragement – and the added visibility!

"Someday" came sooner than you thought. I think you hit all the milestones in your first week. AWESOME! I'm very happy for you. Excited to see what happens in the next day's worth of voting!

parkermc wrote:Gosh, that live trace is awful. I'm so glad Josephus' design is exponentially better with all of his painstaking work on the details.

no....they both look terrible. that is the point. live trace is lame. i could have backed it down to 3 colors like appears to have been done instead of the default 6 and gotten similar results. look at the face "detail" on the shirt in derby. looks ummm.... really detailed and defined. like i said, nice job.

NotAGirl wrote:no....they both look terrible. that is the point. live trace is lame. i could have backed it down to 3 colors like appears to have been done instead of the default 6 and gotten similar results. look at the face "detail" on the shirt in derby. looks ummm.... really detailed and defined. like i said, nice job.

That's your opinion. It certainly isn't mine or that of the 200+ that have put this just outside the fog.

And isn't this what makes shirt.woot so great? Nerds get shirts like this that artists wouldn't wear. Artists get shirts that nerds wouldn't wear. The masses get meme shirt that the sophisticated wouldn't wear. The sophisticated get to complain about the meme shirts that the masses get to wear. What a nice system.

Torvik wrote:And isn't this what makes shirt.woot so great? Nerds get shirts like this that artists wouldn't wear. Artists get shirts that nerds wouldn't wear. The masses get meme shirt that the sophisticated wouldn't wear. The sophisticated get to complain about the meme shirts that the masses get to wear. What a nice system.

What do the art nerds wear?

Torvik wrote:And isn't this what makes shirt.woot so great? Nerds get shirts like this that artists wouldn't wear. Artists get shirts that nerds wouldn't wear. The masses get meme shirt that the sophisticated wouldn't wear. The sophisticated get to complain about the meme shirts that the masses get to wear. What a nice system.

hahahaha!!

oooooooh almost in the fog!!!!! Keep going critters!!!!!!! YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!

SailorButterfly wrote:And what difference would it have made?

what mjc613 said... nevertheless it's just a rhetorical statement.

Jemmacakes wrote:btw, why El Buscador didn't make this kind of momentum, I'll never know..sigh.

redghia69 wrote:p.s. I was so looking forward to buying the prospector shirt. ...shocked and saddened.

Iambusyeating wrote:Yeah how did that happen? I was a fixin to buy that shirt.

Added a few quotes from redghia's shirts thread that resonate in me... really wanted that golden nugget!

NotAGirl wrote:no....they both look terrible. that is the point. live trace is lame. i could have backed it down to 3 colors like appears to have been done instead of the default 6 and gotten similar results. look at the face "detail" on the shirt in derby. looks ummm.... really detailed and defined. like i said, nice job.

I'm sick of this, frankly. I detailed how I made this design, a couple of times. I posted pictures showing the difference between the live-trace from Vector Magic that I used and the 'hand traced' version that I made. I get the message- you hate it. You have such vitriol inside that you have to pick on a design to release the venom. Fine, this week, you chose my design. good for you. Just know, I worked very hard on this design, and I purposely chose to make it with a few colors just because I think it is a better design that way; with more colors, I think the detail becomes too cluttered. I suppose I could have done a better job on the face, but I did the best that I thought I could do. The truth is that the nose is mostly broken off of the original I used, and it looked the way that I made it. You can probably thank Cortez for that damage. I f you can't appreciate the several hours I spent on this design, which doesn't have any careless errors on it, then all I can say is, I'm sorry about that. I'll try to do a better job next time, because I couldn't quite get my idea across to enough people that this was a really wearable, neat design that people would like to wear. Maybe next week you'll have another target, one who is a bit more patient than me. If so, I feel sorry for that person who won't have deserved the angry, pointless attack any more than I did.

haxrox wrote:Or if you just want to express general disgust, go for extreme hyperbole, baroque detail, or absurdism. (ex: "If your design were a flavor, it would be fish-sweat")

Your example works for me, although I could imagine fish sweat has more spice than this design... oops, there's some constructive criticism you asked for. Spice it up, man! Too block like for my tastes. Good luck though.

Torvik wrote:And isn't this what makes shirt.woot so great? Nerds get shirts like this that artists wouldn't wear. Artists get shirts that nerds wouldn't wear. The masses get meme shirt that the sophisticated wouldn't wear. The sophisticated get to complain about the meme shirts that the masses get to wear. What a nice system.

I loved this reply...and it sums up shirt.woot pretty darn closely. But, I liked ELS' question about the art nerds.

I think I tend to be a fusion of a few of the woot groups that you mentioned.

NotAGirl wrote:no....they both look terrible. that is the point. live trace is lame. i could have backed it down to 3 colors like appears to have been done instead of the default 6 and gotten similar results. look at the face "detail" on the shirt in derby. looks ummm.... really detailed and defined. like i said, nice job.

Wow... you really are an ass..

eyeslikesugar wrote:What do the art nerds wear?

Seems like they get it easy... can wear both, shirts the nerds or artists get. I see that I contradict your saying that they don't get either. Hm, good question I suppose.

eyeslikesugar wrote:What do the art nerds wear?

http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=4639?

WonderWooter wrote:Yea, but this shirt will be outdated in like 20 years.

At least it has 20 years before being outdated, unlike many of my shirts from college events with the year on them. Even the cool ones are too quickly outdated... and I'm only a couple years out of college!

AdderXYU with the cute woodchucks wrote:http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=4639?

Sold out!! D= Guess the art nerds missed out. ;)

AdderXYU wrote:http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=4639?

I bought that one. Love it! But I think that works with Torvik's description of artsy and/or sophisticated.

Maybe a good art nerd one would be Fable's TCTP or TGentry's Eating Healthy?

AdderXYU wrote:http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=4639?

I agree that this is a good example. I don't often find enough cool "artsy" shirts though I think Cho's caterpillar fits pretty well.

Josephus wrote:I'm sick of this, frankly. I detailed how I made this design, a couple of times. I posted pictures showing the difference between the live-trace from Vector Magic that I used and the 'hand traced' version that I made. I get the message- you hate it. You have such vitriol inside that you have to pick on a design to release the venom. Fine, this week, you chose my design. good for you. Just know, I worked very hard on this design, and I purposely chose to make it with a few colors just because I think it is a better design that way; with more colors, I think the detail becomes too cluttered. I suppose I could have done a better job on the face, but I did the best that I thought I could do. The truth is that the nose is mostly broken off of the original I used, and it looked the way that I made it. You can probably thank Cortez for that damage. I f you can't appreciate the several hours I spent on this design, which doesn't have any careless errors on it, then all I can say is, I'm sorry about that. I'll try to do a better job next time, because I couldn't quite get my idea across to enough people that this was a really wearable, neat design that people would like to wear. Maybe next week you'll have another target, one who is a bit more patient than me. If so, I feel sorry for that person who won't have deserved the angry, pointless attack any more than I did.

Hey Josephus,
There are going to be people like this always so I would not worry about it. Actually, you never needed to explain yourself about how you did the design to begin with. Unless it is outright copyright infringment no one needs to explain themselves about their designs. Either the design looks good or it does not. Everyone can either vote for them or....not.
-Andy

jrooey wrote:Hey everyone, unfortunately I missed the submission deadline by minutes but would still appreciate your input as it will be constructive towards my next entry.

I must not know how to format despite following the formatting guide so I'm just going to put the link here. Thanks in advance.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12625713@N04/2279333743/

I like it. I think you would have done very well if you would have submitted it on time.
Good luck with the next derby!
-Andy

Andy47240 wrote:Hey Josephus,
There are going to be people like this always so I would not worry about it. Actually, you never needed to explain yourself about how you did the design to begin with. Unless it is outright copyright infringment no one needs to explain themselves about their designs. Either the design looks good or it does not. Everyone can either vote for them or....not.
-Andy

oh, I know. I can be...volatile. ;^)

artulo wrote:Thanks for looking, though! I did push this one a bit more...the last drawing just kind of made itself, this one was a little "forced". The third mouse (on the left) has bothered me since I finished it, as well as the circles around the eyes of two of them.

I can tell. The last one was really good, almost to the point that I would think about buying it. I voted for it, but I don't think it's quite my style.

Re: Just because.....

This is such a great shirt! You're doing awesomely for your first entry, and I really hope you keep it up! We need more like you. The detail on this is just great, not to mention that those lemmings are really, really cute.

klswoot wrote:Thank you very much. I appreciate your taking the time to leave feedback. I agree with you on many points and if I had the choice, I'd not add text to my designs. But, I felt it needed to be included to make the design more derby relevant. I also agree that the design might be too large for the current placement. I was afraid that if I went too small, the text would be too difficult to read and would print poorly.

Thank you again. Your comments are very useful and I appreciate them!

just trying to add useful comments instead of angry ones

Re: Just because.....

This & the math one are my favorites - lemmings for me (and I'm sure they're not killing themselves - see them swimming down there at the bottom? they'll be fine after a quick towel-dry) and math for friends who actually understand all those strange symbols...
Nekko-chan

Re: The Know-it-all

I really hope this shirt wins. I love it.

tgentry wrote:In the interest of disclosure, the Stonehenge wasn't freehanded. I traced it in Illustrator based off a 3D model:



I don't want people to think I have Rain Man like abilities of freehand perspective. Feel free to take away your vote if you feel cheated.

Was that made in SketchUp?

atlinden wrote:just trying to add useful comments instead of angry ones

Thanks! Angry and useful are okay. Nice and useful are even better. Thanks again!

atlinden wrote:Just thought I would try and throw some constructive but friendly criticism into the forum.

STONE THE HEATHEN!

klswoot wrote:"Someday" came sooner than you thought. I think you hit all the milestones in your first week.
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Seriously. And I see the little guys have made it into at least a couple more sigs. That’s awesome. Thanks, fellow wooters! Mine heart strings....

Re: Just because.....

Yeah! Past 300! Now, where is that fog anyhow?