Lunatic09


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Oh, please. -eyeroll- Any image of a blue jay is going to be similar to any other image of a blue jay. You can't copyright the animal.

Anyway, great idea, GMV

bluchez


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Lunatic09 wrote:Oh, please. -eyeroll- Any image of a blue jay is going to be similar to any other image of a blue jay. You can't copyright the animal.

Anyway, great idea, GMV



psssss....the cherry blossom tree is copyrighted as well, coincidence as well?

Edit: I believe the blue jay used that image for source, but is an entirely original illustration that should not be rejection material.

Edit2: In the effort of full disclosure, here is the photo my bug was based on. It was taken by ME with MY camera:

hookajoe


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I would put down $10 for that, no problem. GMV!

marcriedel


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Re: Pockets of Spring II



WHAT?! A Shirt I would actually buy?! It can't possibly make it into the fog then.


*prays it does*

Beautiful shirt, I really hope it wins.

VOLTACO


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Ahh....only if this was a Toyota......

JadenKale


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mjc613 wrote:The expressions on the Lamb's and Lion's faces are a counterpoint to their inherent natures. A very funny yet thought-provoking presentation.



L O L! Thanks MJC! I was really hoping that people would notice that! I love how you described your impression of it

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Re: Springball Wizard


Cool idea ThatRobert!
Andy



goman114


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fillengroovy wrote:it did...
http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=11947



good call.

Andy47240


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Re: Spriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing


Very cute. I really love the exspression on the little fella's face.
-Andy



Andy47240


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Re: I can has cherries too?


I feel an edgar presence James. Very cool and different style for you. I love it.
-Andy



easeandgrace


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Re: Hungry Frog In Spring



I figured I'd do a fun one. Do flies feel horror when that sticky tongue smacks their butts and they're about to become someone's din-din?

Apparently they do! Ribbit!

Andy47240


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Re: Pollen Swirls


This is an awesome piece. I really like the line effect. Great Job.
-Andy



burtonrider404


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Re: All Is Bright



??? leaves are not brown in spring...

Andy47240


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Re: Green Man


Spryte, I really like your Green Man. He reminds me of my Uncle Bob.
-Andy



superspryte


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Andy47240 wrote:Spryte, I really like your Green Man. He reminds me of my Uncle Bob.
-Andy


Thanks. Is your uncle Bob creepy? The Green Man weirds me out a bit. Maybe it's just because he's green.

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dasmonkeyboy


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Re: Daffokills

This is a cute as I can muster...

easeandgrace


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Re: Hungry Frog In Spring



Here's the men's shirt, (and of course only what you can see of it on the derby comments section):

Andy47240


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superspryte wrote:Thanks. Is your uncle Bob creepy? The Green Man weirds me out a bit. Maybe it's just because he's green.


Well, my Uncle Bob is not green, but he is a Harley guy with a crazy beard and long hair, so replace the leaves with hair and he really does look alot like him.
-Andy



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Andy47240 wrote:Cool idea ThatRobert!
Andy



Thank you!

Patchitect


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klswoot wrote: And your point? If you purchase design elements for commercial use, why is this a problem so long as your final design is your own vision and not copied from another person's design. I think you are missing the whole idea behind graphic design. Andy's design looks like a graphic design or tattoo entry rather than an 'art' entry. People like this sort of thing. It doesn't have to be your type of shirt, but there's really no need to get nasty. But I know these comments seem to make you happy ... gotta live up to that username.



Wow, snarky.. i really hope you're proud of your self for that.. you actually got a rise out of one of the kindest, sweetest, nicest designers in the derby and the forums. Thats a real accomplisment. are you going to frame this reply and put it on youe wall of shame?

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burtonrider404 wrote:??? leaves are not brown in spring...


I believe they are orange and pink cherry blossoms.

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Re: Explosive Growth



Voted, and you're close, but I think you would be closer if you had used something not-grey. The light blue (whatever it was called) or even lemon would have worked better, I think. But I still like it- very artistic.

(Unofficial) Derby Rules (outdated?)
Designing for the Derby (definitely outdated)
Tips for New Designers (always useful)

superspryte


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Andy47240 wrote:Well, my Uncle Bob is not green, but he is a Harley guy with a crazy beard and long hair, so replace the leaves with hair and he really does look alot like him.
-Andy


Oooh, so you should find 400 friends and help this win so you can buy a leafy version of uncle Bob. ^_~

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Patchitect


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bluchez wrote:Do you think that the artist should describe the creation of their piece, in those instances that the piece contains elements that are not original?
(This quesiton isn't really meant for you specifically, just in general).



Maybe we sould have a "directors commentary" of the shirt derby on DVD for those of you who need your hands held a little more to know if you like a design or not, or to know if the process of its design lives up to your standards. after all, i wouldnt want anyone to sully thier good name and reputation by voting for something, much less actually buying and wearing something that might be less then 100% "worthy"of your personality.

Honestly, its one thing if you want to know the process of the design to understand its creation, whether to improve your own skills, or to appreciate the artists work, but its quite another to make it mandatory for someone to disclose thier process for the purposes of eliminating thier design.

easeandgrace


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Patchitect wrote:Maybe we sould have a "directors commentary" of the shirt derby on DVD for those of you who need your hands held a little more to know if you like a design or not, or to know if the process of its design lives up to your standards. after all, i wouldnt want anyone to sully thier good name and reputation by voting for something, much less actually buying and wearing something that might be less then 100% "worthy"of your personality.

Honestly, its one thing if you want to know the process of the design to understand its creation, whether to improve your own skills, or to appreciate the artists work, but its quite another to make it mandatory for someone to disclose thier process for the purposes of eliminating thier design.



I have to agree here. I once listened to a very smart person who was moderating a group with issues about each other, and he said something along the lines of "When you start focusing on each other's faults and start what I call 'pimple-picking' on each other, you're
a. Too close to see each other's beauty, so you're seeing only the flaws, and
b. Opening yourself to the same kind of merciless scrutiny."

What matters is whether people like the design, and whether the artist did an original composition with (hopefully) elements they either generated themselves or purchased for the purpose of integrating them into an original design.

If we put too fine a point on things, this derby will degenerate into all the artists being (virtually) individually chased through the village streets with the villagers pursuing with torches held aloft.

It's not a pretty picture, I'm sure you'll agree.

Basically, I agree with some of the people here that some derby participants seem to be copying and using designs from other sites, but let's not turn the quest for truth into a destructive process with widespread negative effects. Let's not let the steamroller of the inquisition hurt innocent feelings, okay?

LET COMMON SENSE BE THE RULE, PLEASE.

'Nuff said.

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eHalcyon wrote:Voted, and you're close, but I think you would be closer if you had used something not-grey. The light blue (whatever it was called) or even lemon would have worked better, I think. But I still like it- very artistic.



Thanks alot, I'll take the colour suggestions into mind next time, seems alot of people depise AA asphalt.

superspryte


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m4dcow wrote:Thanks alot, I'll take the colour suggestions into mind next time, seems alot of people depise AA asphalt.


It's more that wooters see a lot of it. The lion's share of entries are on asphalt, navy, brown, and black. The bright colors tend to get overlooked. Lately heather and cream have also been pretty prevalent.

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bluchez wrote:Oh wait, I was just trying to ask a question. Having nothing to do with this piece, but a comment that that andy had made. I wasn't trying to be mean. I was responding to him saying that clip art/ vector packs was ok by asking if they should be required to talk about it.

I definitely wasn't trying to be rude or a troll or anything, was just stating some questions. When pieces look like they are traced from images, specifically, I find it interesting to know where the image came from. Like, All is Bright, for instance. It looks like a photo, so I was interested to know where it came from. Which is why I politely told him it looked like a google image search result, and I thought he might should resub. (which he answered saying he used 6 blossom sources, and I felt like I needed to press the issue further). The monarch entry, for instance, looks to be largely based on a photograph, and it concerns me about the legalities of the source. I did not want to go ask the artist, because I get plenty of flaming when something like that happens.

I was truly just responding to Andy's comments about what he uses, not about his entry or trying to troll. Forgive me if it came across like that.

Edit: And to spryte, using your own stuffed animal that you visually look at, personally photograph, etc, isn't anywhere related to clip art/ vector pack/ using copyrighted imagery, so I'm not sure why you brought him up?



i didn't mean you, i meant the early cracks that Andy was referring too...sorry : )


InitialSam


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Re: All Is Bright



my woot lawyer has advised me not to comment at this time.

superspryte


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bluchez wrote:Oh wait, I was just trying to ask a question. Having nothing to do with this piece, but a comment that that andy had made. I wasn't trying to be mean. I was responding to him saying that clip art/ vector packs was ok by asking if they should be required to talk about it.

I definitely wasn't trying to be rude or a troll or anything, was just stating some questions. When pieces look like they are traced from images, specifically, I find it interesting to know where the image came from. Like, All is Bright, for instance. It looks like a photo, so I was interested to know where it came from. Which is why I politely told him it looked like a google image search result, and I thought he might should resub. (which he answered saying he used 6 blossom sources, and I felt like I needed to press the issue further). The monarch entry, for instance, looks to be largely based on a photograph, and it concerns me about the legalities of the source. I did not want to go ask the artist, because I get plenty of flaming when something like that happens.

I was truly just responding to Andy's comments about what he uses, not about his entry or trying to troll. Forgive me if it came across like that.

Edit: And to spryte, using your own stuffed animal that you visually look at, personally photograph, etc, isn't anywhere related to clip art/ vector pack/ using copyrighted imagery, so I'm not sure why you brought him up?


Because it was late and made sense at the time. Now it doesn't really to me either, but I swear I made some sort of connection at the time, heh.

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superspryte


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Re: All Is Bright


Sam, click me.

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bluchez


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Patchitect wrote:Bluchez snippet: "Do you think that the artist should describe the creation of their piece, in those instances that the piece contains elements that are not original?
(This quesiton isn't really meant for you specifically, just in general)."

Maybe we sould have a "directors commentary" of the shirt derby on DVD for those of you who need your hands held a little more to know if you like a design or not, or to know if the process of its design lives up to your standards. after all, i wouldnt want anyone to sully thier good name and reputation by voting for something, much less actually buying and wearing something that might be less then 100% "worthy"of your personality.

Honestly, its one thing if you want to know the process of the design to understand its creation, whether to improve your own skills, or to appreciate the artists work, but its quite another to make it mandatory for someone to disclose thier process for the purposes of eliminating thier design.



I'll respond to this post, which in my mind the next one is a response to, and not my own:

Just to put some context with the quote you have supplied:

bluchez wrote:Do you think that the artist should describe the creation of their piece, in those instances that the piece contains elements that are not original? I think that in many instances, it's relevant to the wearer if someone else could create an similar shirt using clip art/vectors. I know that there have been occasions where artists have implied that the artwork was theirs, when in fact, only the compilation of the generic elements are theirs. I understand that to some buyers, this might not be overly relevant, but to many of the buyers, it could make a big difference.

If another user asks a question about if the artwork is original, they quickly get flamed. Would you agree that disclosure by the artist up front would be appropriate?

(This quesiton isn't really meant for you specifically, just in general).



Now, I do fail to see exactly where you jumped to the conclusions that you did in your post that was critical to introduce your fine quality of sarcasm into the discussion. I was proposing a question. I don't remember reading the word required or mandatory in my post at all, but I do see that you infer that I did. I also do not feel that listing the legal clip art you used would be useful in the process of eliminating their design (as you infer), so I don't know how that is relevant to the discourse.

Please do not think I was asking for woot (the land of few hard fast rules) to instantiate some sort of mandatory source list. I simply greatly appreciate entirely original artwork, and am finding it harder to differentiate them.

m4dcow


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superspryte wrote:It's more that wooters see a lot of it. The lion's share of entries are on asphalt, navy, brown, and black. The bright colors tend to get overlooked. Lately heather and cream have also been pretty prevalent.



Can't please eveyone I suppose. I also think that that the lighter colours are more of a risk, if it doesn't fit well it has no chance. Conversely, I think mediocre designs will look okay on a black or asphalt shirt.

jarjarbinks


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Re: Green Man



Ooh deesa shirt gwonna win!

Patchitect


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InitialSam wrote:my woot lawyer has advised me not to comment at this time.



Wow! you got your lawyer through woot too? You must have paid the 5$ for overnight, cause i ordered mine smartpost back in january, and the tracking thing says hes still in texas... i hope they packed enough food, otherwise, i'm not going to want to open that envelope.

m4dcow


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bobvonboris wrote:Here is my entry for the week. I really hope you guys like it!



Nice, what kind of flower is that again?

superspryte


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jarjarbinks wrote:Ooh deesa shirt gwonna win!


Heh, I don't think so but thanks for the support. ^_^

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bluchez


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narkus wrote:i didn't mean you, i meant the early cracks that Andy was referring too...sorry : )



To all: Sorry, if your posts were directed at earlier ones and not mine, I am sorry. I guess I missed an earlier discussion, and was only reading Andy's post. I will go back and read the other earlier posts and will be happy to edit my posts (or ask them removed) if you were talking about something else and just happen to quote mine.

m4dcow


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Re: Spring Into Action



I like the style of this entry, vivid colours too.

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I love this shirt. Super job!