stargrey wrote:Apparently not enough people wanted it. And hopefully not this time either. This resub trend has got to be stopped!
You fanboys of certain designers are just sore losers - and you designers who keep resubmitting the same losing shirts should really try to come up with new stuff. You have talent, there's no arguing that, but your sportsmanship is sorely lacking. You're like kids throwing a fit - "I'm gonna keep entering this design till it wins."
Checks the blogs out there - people are walking away from shirt.woot because of the fanboys (a.k.a. people who rarely think for themselves) and the resubmitters. Y'all are making a few bucks, show us the courtesy of new designs.
FWIW, I voted for this the first time, but I don't vote for resubs.
People are walking away from shirt.woot for a lot of reasons. I am sure "fanboys" is far down the list after "continual submitters of copyrighted material," "perplexing and inconsistent rejection standards," and "poor quality control on entries," not to mention "voters who seem to like shirts more the worse they're done".
That said, the resub thing is getting a bit ridiculous. I have no problem with the same people winning often if they're putting out good work, but i do have a problem with old entries stealing the limelight from new ones. I'm going to single out Briannyc, who used to be a regular derbyist. The last time I saw him enter was over 30 derbies ago, when he got 4th place with a shirt most of us thought would be first, second in a fluke. He's given us a simple and smart design again this week, probably the most representative of the theme of everything in the fog. If I were him, I'd be quite upset if I found myself fourth, or unfogged, by two heavy-hitters posting resubmissions.
Gentry, you know I respect your work, but the whole resub thing ain't workin' for me. I know, you're not even the most apt to resubmit, but seriously, in the last three derbies, we've had two resubs print, one place, and two former threadless designs win as well. Woot has been a laughingstock in the shirt world for a long time for the reasons I've mentioned before. People like you and cho (and obviously other woot-based names) help legitimize it. If people would rather trade legitimacy for an easy cash grab, that's fine, but I'd hope woot would want to IMPROVE their site instead of turning their weekly contests into "a bunch of new shirts try to stay afloat against a cadre of near-misses." Enter weekly. Enter multiple shirts a week. Win every week with one, if not two. I don't care. A shirt that doesn't resonate is going to not resonate no matter who designs it, and at the end of the day, a shirt that wins is going to win not for the designer, but for the design. I don't buy the fanboy hooey. But I do believe that a familiar design racks up familiar votes. And I do believe you're better than that.
ETA: I read your response AFTER the fact of writing this, and trust me, I understand why you'd be upset. As I said, I've seen rather few gentry resubs, and you definitely put more into a resub than some do for a whole entry. I still stand by what I said, tho... I respect designers like you for their ability to pull out new and smart ideas weekly, and I don't want to come across as though that isn't the case. To me though, a resub in a slow derby like this is a slap in the face to the fog. I don't mean to single you out, but your entry is where the issue was addressed. If you would like me to elucidate anything, let me know, here or PM.