kylemittskus wrote:Easy there Tarzan. No need to swing to the rescue. I understand that this WAS a woot original. However, it has now been made available (and still is available) at another website. In my opinion, or rather, my wish, I wish that shirts on woot were only ever available on woot. Some of the dailies have been on other sites as well. Personally, I wish this wasn't so. The same is true for this design.
I am by no means attacking Cho and I agree, this is amazing art work. However, I was just wondering if Cho requested that this shirt be removed from DBH. The shirt itself is by no means cheapening the derby. It being available somewhere else, in my opinion, is.
The stuff in bold is untrue. It's not available anywhere else. It was submit to DBH with the hope of it later getting printed and therefore made available, but it's not available. Try buying it. You won't succeed. At this juncture, ol' Rocky being on DBH is like him being on Cho's blog (if he had one). You can't buy it anywhere, and DBH has no intentions of printing it.
In the case of dailies, I am all for woot taking awesome designs and finally giving them a chance to print, just as I am stoked that DBH has just recently printed Artulo's awesome Line Rhino. Daily shirts, anywhere, are all in one big long competition... Printing Sea Wolves doesn't mean some other awesome shirt is going unprinted... just that it will be printed a day, week, month later. Sure, plenty of good shirts are turned down by woot, but not for the sake of shirts from elsewhere... in all likelihood woot would turn them down anyway, silly as that might be of them. Again, these are shirts that never existed, never printed, and are still exclusive shirts to woot... if you see someone wearing a design you saw at woot, they bought it at woot. You're basically implying that once a shirt is entered into a contest, it can never be printed if it loses. Or that entering a contest means your shirt is available for purchase. Either way it's incredibly incorrect.
With the derbies, of course, I take a different tack... entering old work in a derby DOES cheapen the derby, because it gives you an advantage the others don't have... the average designer has 24 hours to work on a design to enter it at derby opening. A design from elsewhere not only could have potentially had weeks and months of time put into it, but may even draw a fanbase from the other site. Still, again, this derby is different. EVERY design has an automatic fan base, and just like every other design here, Cho's raccoon was created during the derby timeframe, FOR the derby. It was a woot design first, and a do-over derby is the one time where I'm happy to see a "re-sub".
Of course, if you must have your incorrect wrath, go for it. I expect an equal amount of venom for designers who removed designs without sales from their spreadshirt/cafepress shops, because unlike this raccoon, which never got printed and therefore never had a chance to sell, those artists had shirts that DID have a chance to sell, even if they never found a sale. I don't condemn these designers either... Spreadshirt is not even slightly ideal for shirt printing compared to a real deal screenprint, will never bring in woot-like revenue, and at the end of the day, a shirt which has never sold should be a viable choice for this derby. Still, if you're going to take that point of view, it's always best to be consistent.