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AdderXYU wrote:This comment proves why you people are so wrong.

Ovaltina, my goat SAY NO TO SCURVY REMINDS ME OF SAVADOR DALI!!!!!

DONT LET CAKE RECKON! IT IS A VERITABLE PICASSO!!!!

This is nothing like Shel's work. It is covered with useless spatter, the dandelion and its seeds look like they came from wegotsomestockflowers.com, and it has no discernible style. This is where you go from having a weak opinion to being flat out wrong.

i know, right?! how DARE you let this piece REMIND you of Mr. Silverstein's work!? how DARE you?! you are SO WRONG!

give me a frakking break.

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did you use a Woot tablet

kdeuce wrote:i know, right?! how DARE you let this piece REMIND you of Mr. Silverstein's work!? how DARE you?! you are SO WRONG!

give me a frakking break.

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Mr. Deuce

If you honestly think your work is similar to Mr. Silverstein, you speak volumes about your own competency.

AdderXYU wrote:This comment proves why you people are so wrong.

How does that prove anything? It was one person who was reminded of Silverstein. One person does not constitute "people".

AdderXYU wrote:It is covered with useless spatter, the dandelion and its seeds look like they came from wegotsomestockflowers.com, and it has no discernible style. This is where you go from having a weak opinion to being flat out wrong.

I have to disagree with this. I find kdeuce's style to be very distinct and, usually, very aesthetically pleasing. There's something really appealing to me in the inky quality of his designs.

I've also noticed you remarking that many of kdeuce's designs look like they come from vector packs or live traces, but I don't see that either. The only design I remember of kdeuce's that I ever thought looked livetraced was his first entry, with the grenade. The designs I've seen since then all seem hand-drawn to me, almost always in his style.

I respect that you don't like the style, but I find it extremely tasteless to continue accusing kdeuce of using stock photos or stock vectors or whatever. He's been through plenty of derbies - if he'd been doing anything suspicious, chances are that someone would have already found his sources. Wooters are notoriously good at that kind of thing.

I still think this design should be rejected, but these attacks against kdeuce are ridiculous.

jkchris wrote:did you use a Woot tablet

Heh... Nope.

I actually got a pretty sweet deal on a Wacom Intuos 3 6x11 by some company in Georgia. It was backordered for a month though, but well worth the wait.

AdderXYU wrote:Mr. Deuce

If you honestly think your work is similar to Mr. Silverstein, you speak volumes about your own competency.

oh, now i believe my stuff is similar to Silverstein's? wow.

DavidShenoda wrote:I think they should be called "glow"flies instead of fireflies. I mean they're not really on fire. It's a little misleading to those who expect to see flaming insects flying around.

Anywho, despite the invisible tree, this is still a "perfect for woot" design. Good job choosing your idea.

...what?

I think he's willing to take that risk.

Thank you for your valued input, ridiculously ignorant of common pop-culture phrases as it may be. I'm sure the artist really appreciates you letting him know about this small but discriminated against demographic.

Re: Not So Quiet On The Western Front

This is my favorite of the derby

BootsBoots wrote:Oh Kdeuce, you're such a good artist. Of course you shouldn't withdraw this, but I do feel like it should be rejected (nothing personal). It's just that so many designs before have been rejected because "similar shirts exist" and I like consistency. I'm very anal.

Is there room for one more on the bandwagon ???

lwoodnj wrote:Thank you for your valued input, ridiculously ignorant of common pop-culture phrases as it may be. I'm sure the artist really appreciates you letting him know about this small but discriminated against demographic.

Ya know, I can't be certain, but I'm pretty sure David was just being facetious.

Re: The Dandy Lion

You GMV kdeuce. And remember this:

Listen to the MUSN'TS, child,
Listen to the DON'TS
Listen to the SHOULDN'TS
The IMPOSSIBLES, the WON'TS
Listen to the NEVER HAVES
Then listen close to me –
Anything can happen, child,
ANYTHING can be.


Shel Silverstein (1932 - 1999)
Source: Where the Sidewalk Ends: Poems and Drawings, Page: 27

soupist wrote:You GMV kdeuce. And remember this:

Listen to the MUSN'TS, child,
Listen to the DON'TS
Listen to the SHOULDN'TS
The IMPOSSIBLES, the WON'TS
Listen to the NEVER HAVES
Then listen close to me –
Anything can happen, child,
ANYTHING can be.


Shel Silverstein (1932 - 1999)
Source: Where the Sidewalk Ends: Poems and Drawings, Page: 27

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paulhep wrote:Neat, this one should win, and so should Supermegavirus. If you're cool you'll go vote for Supermegavirus.

stop posting this. it's rude.

thatrobert wrote:

Thanks! Woohoo!

eHalcyon wrote:I have to disagree with this. I find kdeuce's style to be very distinct and, usually, very aesthetically pleasing. There's something really appealing to me in the inky quality of his designs.

I've also noticed you remarking that many of kdeuce's designs look like they come from vector packs or live traces, but I don't see that either. The only design I remember of kdeuce's that I ever thought looked livetraced was his first entry, with the grenade. The designs I've seen since then all seem hand-drawn to me, almost always in his style.

I respect that you don't like the style, but I find it extremely tasteless to continue accusing kdeuce of using stock photos or stock vectors or whatever. He's been through plenty of derbies - if he'd been doing anything suspicious, chances are that someone would have already found his sources. Wooters are notoriously good at that kind of thing.

I still think this design should be rejected, but these attacks against kdeuce are ridiculous.

It's not that he even has sources. It looks common. It looks thoughtless. It looks like the imitation of art. It's not that he uses vector art, but it has that same impersonal look, that same generic feel. It's almost all in the same "style", but I don't see much of anything stylistic. It's an Emperor Has No Clothes situation to me.

aricartt wrote:

eHalcyon wrote:Nucleus.

proton

hahahaha, yeah I suppose that it isn't really a nucleus without the neutrons, proton is probably more accurate

fofmock wrote:hahahaha, yeah I suppose that it isn't really a nucleus without the neutrons, proton is probably more accurate

Well, it *should* be a nucleus. But you're right, it isn't.

AdderXYU wrote:It's not that he even has sources. It looks common. It looks thoughtless. It looks like the imitation of art. It's not that he uses vector art, but it has that same impersonal look, that same generic feel. It's almost all in the same "style", but I don't see much of anything stylistic. It's an Emperor Has No Clothes situation to me.

That's fair. But it's also subjective. In my opinion, kdeuce's work is quite stylistic with plenty of personality and pull. And I find that the great majority of his designs share an important characteristic with many of the great designs by tgentry, Cho and the other derby greats - wearability.

I can respect your opinion. But where you use the term "common", I see it as "distinct." When I look at the thumbnails I can usually tell if the piece is by Fable, or rglee, or sokowa, or cho or tgentry. It's the same with kdeuce. You see something unappealing in his work that most others don't see. Or perhaps all those who are voting see something that you miss. But it's all a matter of perspective; it's unfair to say that your opinion is right and those who disagree are all wrong.

Re: Shall We Dance (resub on Olive)

Thanks for the votes and comments

Re: [url=http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=24647]The Ant

Thanks for the votes and comments

Re: Nanonauts

please please pleaseeee let this one get printed!!!!! it looks like its getting less popular dang those people of the fireflies!!!

treebirdoctopus wrote:He has very flat legs. It doesn't look right. I don't get this one, it shouldn't be up this far.

Unlike you, treebirdoctopus, I do like it, and it fits the Derby theme perfectly. I have four young nephews that would be fighting over this (And yes, four boys seem to run in the family (My luck, I'll have all girls and won't have a clue what to do)). Me being a big kid myself, I want one of these too. Darn 3 shirt limitation. . .

That's what was bothering me about this! Cho, you have the halftone shading on the dino's upper half and the pocket, but you missed the feet. It makes it look like the feet were added as an afterthought. If this doesn't make it back to the fog and win, could you fix that (assuming it was a mistake) before you put it up on another site or resub for the next Do-Over Derby?

GMV. Oh, and Cho, don't let the useless negative comments bother you. The world is full of asshats who like tearing others down and feel entitled to do it anonymously on the internet (and no, treebirdoctopus, this was not directed at you; your comment was stating constructive criticism (although saying it shouldn't be up this far is *Bad Form*)).

db

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Voting should only be for those shirts that you would buy if they were available (either for yourself, or for a gift for someone you know would love it). If you like a shirt, but wouldn't get it, then leave the artist a comment. If you don't like a shirt, but see it's potential, point out what you think would make it better. If you don't like the shirt, don't comment or vote on it; no one will ever know. It's as simple as that.
Stop the Violence.

BootsBoots wrote:Ohhh! It's funny! I don't know if I would have gotten it without the title, but still... it's good.

I didn't even read the title at first and still thought it was funny. I just thought it was elves decorating a certain veggie mascot as a Christmas tree. Love the candy cane manacles.

Is that corn he's being force-fed?

Re: Escorting Princess Dewdrop

ok, it is late Wednesday night, and for some unfathomable reason, this shirt is in 39th place. I just don't get it.

This shirt is FABULOUS - but obviously not going to win this week. So, I am asking - begging!! - please, please, let me know if you put this up for print somewhere else!!!

IndependentVik wrote:I've been on the watch for a great brown design, and this might very well be it. The look of contempt on the ant's face is great. If you don't mind my asking, what are the two rooms with the little brown and little gold orbs about? Food storage of some kind?

Great design, toe!

Sigh. More brown. GMV - not sure it'll help this late, though. You are going to make me broke with your store link. I'm definitely getting Hephaestus (not sure which yet). And I still want Migration. Since it was submitted for the Do-Over Derby, does this mean I have to wait another 60 days?

db

bro3of4 wrote:I didn't even read the title at first and still thought it was funny. I just thought it was elves decorating a certain veggie mascot as a Christmas tree. Love the candy cane manacles.

Is that corn he's being force-fed?

Yeah, that's what it is. Santa's forcing Jolly to eat the canned vegetables he always carries around.

bro3of4 wrote:Sigh. More brown. GMV - not sure it'll help this late, though. You are going to make me broke with your store link. I'm definitely getting Hephaestus (not sure which yet). And I still want Migration. Since it was submitted for the Do-Over Derby, does this mean I have to wait another 60 days?

db

generally i let the design dictate the shirt color, so the logical choice for this design seemed to be brown. if woot offered more colors we designers would have more options but they don't. still, thanks for the vote. i was hoping to at least make the top ten but it doesn't seem likely either.

not sure when migration will be available, but i think it's 30 days. if it were up to me i'd make the prices lower in the shop, but spreadshirt makes the lion's share of the price and i got a rather small percentage of it. thanks for your support!

Re: Let it show, let it snow

i really really...want this to win!!!
its an amazing design!
and i want to give this as a christmas gift!! llo

Re: Nanonauts

very nice work

Re: [url=http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=24654]Out of the Bottle

awesome illustration and colors, love the sketchy style. gmv.

Re: Confined

Definitely fits the theme. I used to stare into the snow globe I had as a child and wish that I could live there instead of the real world I actually lived in.

thatrobert wrote:

Woo! I'm a loser, babay!

Thanks!

Re: Let it show, let it snow

Thank you!!

JadenKale wrote:Thanks moran! Sometimes simplicity doesn't win derbies. I guess that's why it's sitting where it is. Thanks for the vote though, I really appreciate it!

I do wish it was doing better though!!!

thatrobert wrote:

I don't understand how this is not in da fog, but I am just a dumb Cajun. Congrats on a nice design.

wootvan wrote:This discussion reminds me of a previous post which suggested that only buyers of shirts should get votes (seemed to have some traction) and that you should get extra voting power if you bought multiple shirts (shot down like a clown in a dunk tank)...

Should be pretty obvious why that wouldn't work out. Say I decide to spend 1,000 of my own dollars to buy 3 t-shirts every day until the entire amount is spent after 34 days I've just given myself the power to vote x100 on any shirt I want. If continued to follow this process for another grand or two, eventually I could buy my wins. You might think "who would be so crazy?", but when you consider that I could technically win 3 times a week after a few purchased wins you've paid yourself back and will see nothing but profit.

You could possibly do this right now if you think about it. Buy one shirt per account until you have 1,000 acounts. That's 1k votes but I have faith that this sort of shenanigans would raise a few flags over at el officina de woot.

The system could use some minor tweeks (like a cap on how many shirts you can vote) or keeping artists names hidden (for those who doubt the skill), but other than that, its fine.

I love this one i want to get it for my uncle who just had heart surgery

Re: Music Transfer Service (resub)

Sweet, love the detail of the tape wrapped around the vehicle. gmv.

Re: People of the Fireflies

very clever and beautifully done. it has my vote. good luck!

You know, you've been fighting this fight with just about everyone on this website for the better part of a week now. You take this stance of the purity of art and creativity it what's important. With any venue of creativity there's ALWAYS a strong element of subjectivity. That's why artistic movements come and go. When you study any artistic era you have to remember that there are also people who didn't like that style during that time period.

Is it really so hard to concede that other people might just have different subject tastes and aren't necessarily wrong?

You should also take a moment to realize that this website doesn't run a weekly fine arts contest. This a shirt design contest which opens up the parameters a little bit allowing for this fuzzy grey area that we're in now. Sure the concept used in this design wasn't original (even if kduece didn't know it at the time), but the visual aesthetic that he his and applied to the concept clearly is. There's an obvious different between his shirt and all the other similar designs that have been shared. Much like there's an obvious different between his disegn and the style used by Shel Silverstein. Once you understand that fact you can then move on to realizing that whether or not you like the design means nothing in regards to the quality of the work. There's a reason everyone is allowed to vote and one wooter isn't given the final decision. Suck it up and deal. You live in a democracy and should be used to this sort of thing by now.