thekammerjammer


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Tahoe85 wrote:I like it, whether it makes it or not. People take Santa SO seriously at Christmas. Saint Nicholas (real person) was not Santa Claus (myth).



Thanks, glad you like, I figured that since Obama as president is sucha hot topic right now that I would try and make a shirt that looked kinda like it to see if it looks cool!

OnyxEyez


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Re: Hermes gets an upgrade



I Like!

Woot: x 41
Shirt.Woot: x 41
Sellout.Woot: x 11
Kids.Woot: x 4
Wine.Woot: x none. Wine gives me migraines. I'll take the cheese tho.

OnyxEyez


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SydneyB wrote:But somehow it does not look like he is carrying a severed hand. It looks more like the hand is growing down out of the mouth.

As I said, the rest of the illustration is terrific! I like it a lot.



I agree on both counts.

Woot: x 41
Shirt.Woot: x 41
Sellout.Woot: x 11
Kids.Woot: x 4
Wine.Woot: x none. Wine gives me migraines. I'll take the cheese tho.

Copo


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elwayman02 wrote:stuff about ED being a made up



wrong. everything on there is the absolute truth.

also, ramyb, if the allegations are true, rig the better shirts you do. Usually the worst of the shirts you put up win.

AdderXYU


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mjc613 wrote:

Even if these 2 people have done something to rightfully make that site's writer angry, I do not see anything that should change how we address the artwork they submit here. If you have proof that it is not theirs, that would be a different story.



This has been nagging at the back of my head all day, so I had to pull it back out.

If your daughter got raped, would you give the sex offender who happened to move in next door after he was released from prison the benefit of the doubt? Even if he seemed affable beforehand?

If you were hiring at a local store, and upon calling references you noticed one applicant had a number of theft accusations, would you hire them? Even if their resume was impeccable otherwise?

Do you think the UK should vote George W. Bush into office knowing the record he left behind? I mean, it's a totally different country. Maybe he'll run it better.

If you catch students cheating off each other, would you let them continue to sit by each other? Surely it was a one-time deal.

If your dog bit your baby, would you give it the benefit of the doubt, or would you resign yourself to send it to the pound?

If your husband slept with another woman, would you stay with him? And if so, would you presume that he'd gotten over his desire for another woman and live happily ever after?

Would you have bought a Milli Vanilli CD after they were proven to be nothing more than lip-synchers?

Did OJ Simpson's acquittal make you believe his "If I Did It" book was a legitimate explanation of why he was innocent?

So why are these two any different? "even if" they legitimately hoodwinked their way through 14 tables on a 4-table limit at the equivalent of an art fair, and "even if" certain users were banned from deviant art for multiple account abuse, somehow these past evils don't count here? They get a free slate, because fool DA and various conventions, shame on us, but we won't get fooled at woot? Woot, where people argue that copyrighted photos shouldn't be copyrighted? Yeah, I'm sure that there is a massive conspiracy started months, if not years, before these two started entering at woot. It should be mentioned and it should be a concern to every single wooter.

aaronhaven


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beets


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Re: Baba's Home



oh wow! this is one of my favorite childhood stories...i'm so glad someone picked it up for this derby. best of luck!

kyoste


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Dude holy Rollerball (2002), FANTASTIC design. Love norse mythology.

Theglyph


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AWESOME design. Definitely got my vote! Best of luck

ramyb


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AdderXYU wrote:This has been nagging at the back of my head all day, so I had to pull it back out.

If your daughter got raped, would you give the sex offender who happened to move in next door after he was released from prison the benefit of the doubt? Even if he seemed affable beforehand?

If you were hiring at a local store, and upon calling references you noticed one applicant had a number of theft accusations, would you hire them? Even if their resume was impeccable otherwise?

Do you think the UK should vote George W. Bush into office knowing the record he left behind? I mean, it's a totally different country. Maybe he'll run it better.

If you catch students cheating off each other, would you let them continue to sit by each other? Surely it was a one-time deal.

If your dog bit your baby, would you give it the benefit of the doubt, or would you resign yourself to send it to the pound?

If your husband slept with another woman, would you stay with him? And if so, would you presume that he'd gotten over his desire for another woman and live happily ever after?

Would you have bought a Milli Vanilli CD after they were proven to be nothing more than lip-synchers?

Did OJ Simpson's acquittal make you believe his "If I Did It" book was a legitimate explanation of why he was innocent?

So why are these two any different? "even if" they legitimately hoodwinked their way through 14 tables on a 4-table limit at the equivalent of an art fair, and "even if" certain users were banned from deviant art for multiple account abuse, somehow these past evils don't count here? They get a free slate, because fool DA and various conventions, shame on us, but we won't get fooled at woot? Woot, where people argue that copyrighted photos shouldn't be copyrighted? Yeah, I'm sure that there is a massive conspiracy started months, if not years, before these two started entering at woot. It should be mentioned and it should be a concern to every single wooter.



Thus far, you've kept things (reasonably) under control with your nasty comments that you can't stop yourself from making, but you've really gone way too far this time. I sent you a PM in an attempt to explain things rationally, which, of course, you ignored, just as you've ignored every response I've made to you on every thread you've tainted. Making a list of completely arbitrarily chosen and faulty situations that are in no way analogous to this situation is just extremely offensive. I've said it before, but you are so much like Karl Rove, it's unbelievable. Do you actually think these things through before you type them, or are you just going for a strategy of making negative associations to try to slander me? Trying to compare me to a rapist or a thief in a situation in this kind of situation is crossing a very clear line, and you know it. What does this have to do with cheating on a spouse? A dog biting a baby, really? And your example of lip synching is EXACTLY what you just completely dismissed in mjc's comment. I've tried to respond to you with logic time and again, but with the direction your arguments are going, there's really no point. It is clear now that your sole purpose is to slander me without actually caring what kind of tactics you use or what truth there is in your statements.

If your boyfriend's ex-girlfriend called after a nasty breakup to tell you how she hates him and how awful he was, would you take her word for it?

If you were hiring at a local store, and upon calling references, would you assume he was a thief because his previous coworkers didn't like him?

If Obama admitted to trying drugs in college, would you assume he was going to be a pothead in the White House?

If a student in your class told you that a student that they disliked was cheating, would you assume it was true and scream about it to the whole class and try to run the student out of the school?

Get over yourself, you know nothing in this situation and have chosen to revel in your ignorance and vomit up horrendously irrelevant and poorly constructed analogies instead of listening to one of the many people imploring you to question the logic of your claims. And by the way, I was never banned from conventions, nor from deviantart, for any wrongdoing, so stop tooting that horn all over my thread and GTFO.

wils9745


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Re: Choosey Dad's Choose Wax



Finally, a different take on the whole Icarus thing. Looks nice.

a2theharris wrote:At first it looks like blood spurting out, but then you do a double take and you get the cuteness.


Awesome Entries!

Flapjack82


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Re: Choosey Dad's Choose Wax




Daedalus would soon regret his choice of adhesive for his son's wings.

godfreytemple


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Re: Bifrost - The Rainbow Fridge



When the Norse Gods wanted to protect Asgard's foodstuffs (apples, etc) they called upon Bifrost the rainbow fridge.

Half Heimdall, half Mythological bridge all refrigerator.

For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifr%C3%B6st

Your votes benefit under-frozen lutefisk the world over. And trust me, you OH GOD! MY PANTS ARE AFLAME! that stuff thawing out.

godfreytemple


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godfreytemple wrote:When the Norse Gods wanted to protect Asgard's foodstuffs (apples, etc) they called upon Bifrost the rainbow fridge.

Half Heimdall, half Mythological bridge all refrigerator.

For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifr%C3%B6st

Your votes benefit under-frozen lutefisk the world over. And trust me, you OH GOD! MY PANTS ARE AFLAME! that stuff thawing out.



Blast the replacement strings...
"And trust me, you WOULD NOT like that stuff thawing out.

AdderXYU


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ramyb wrote:Thus far, you've kept things (reasonably) under control with your nasty comments that you can't stop yourself from making, but you've really gone way too far this time. I sent you a PM in an attempt to explain things rationally, which, of course, you ignored, just as you've ignored every response I've made to you on every thread you've tainted. Making a list of completely arbitrarily chosen and faulty situations that are in no way analogous to this situation is just extremely offensive. I've said it before, but you are so much like Karl Rove, it's unbelievable. Do you actually think these things through before you type them, or are you just going for a strategy of making negative associations to try to slander me? Trying to compare me to a rapist or a thief in a situation in this kind of situation is crossing a very clear line, and you know it. What does this have to do with cheating on a spouse? A dog biting a baby, really? And your example of lip synching is EXACTLY what you just completely dismissed in mjc's comment. I've tried to respond to you with logic time and again, but with the direction your arguments are going, there's really no point. It is clear now that your sole purpose is to slander me without actually caring what kind of tactics you use or what truth there is in your statements.



It's analogous in this way: If someone is known for being ____, you should expect ______ from them. If you believe I'm a total jerk-off, which I'm sure you do, you expect everything I have to say to be jerk-off-y, and were I to say something unjerkoff, you would consider it a fluke, or tainted by some bias, or otherwise not based in the reality of who I am. Similarly, I find it incredibly hard to believe you and your girlfriend are not cheats, considering an incredible amount of evidence that points to the opposite of your claims. My point is simple: the average person would NOT allow themselves to be fooled in those situations, even when it is perhaps in their best interest to do so. It is baffling to me, then, how someone could react one way in so many situations, yet in this situation it's nothing. If situation X presented itself, we would point the blame at the innocent with FAR less evidence against them than seems to be presented for you. That is how it relates.

If your boyfriend's ex-girlfriend called after a nasty breakup to tell you how she hates him and how awful he was, would you take her word for it?

If you were hiring at a local store, and upon calling references, would you assume he was a thief because his previous coworkers didn't like him?

If a student in your class told you that a student that they disliked was cheating, would you assume it was true and scream about it to the whole class and try to run the student out of the school?



1) No, because if I had a boyfriend, he probably wouldn't have been dating a girl. However, ignoring the fact that I'm straight and male, if I noticed trends that went along with what psycho-Zippy, the laziest elf was complaining about, I would certainly think twice

2) How do you judge "dislike." If I am an employer and I notice that MULTIPLE employers have had issues with a potential employee, I am certainly going to think twice, and if I do end up hiring him, I'm going to keep a damn good eye on him to make sure I don't see what they saw. After all, it is more likely that he literally was a jerk in all his past jobs than that he was simply misunderstood and disliked greatly for it by his bosses. You understand that I'd be calling bosses and people he cited himself, not just random employees, right? And even so, with that sort of watchful eye on the employee, I wouldn't assume he was a thief unless the people I talked to implied he stole. To extrapolate "thief" from "doesnt like" would be a huge jump of logic on my part and a huge lie on their part. The thief accusation would need to come into play. If it came into play in enough independent instances, it would indeed become a serious concern of mine and would likely effect the hiring process.

3) There are a number of factors: how often has the kid been caught cheating? Are his test scores reflecting the quality of his class performance? Do I feel like the accuser is trustworthy, or at least more-so than the accused? Whatever the case, I love how you're painting yourself as the poor misunderstood kid. Very heart-rending, very twee.

If there is reasonable suspicion, it would be my job in all three of those scenarios to keep a damn eye peeled.

Get over yourself, you know nothing in this situation and have chosen to revel in your ignorance and vomit up horrendously irrelevant and poorly constructed analogies instead of listening to one of the many people imploring you to question the logic of your claims. And by the way, I was never banned from conventions, nor from deviantart, for any wrongdoing, so stop tooting that horn all over my thread and GTFO.



I never tooted my own horn all over your thread or claimed you were banned from conventions or deviant art. I love your work.

See what I did there? I said things people could easily find evidence to prove otherwise.

Look, whether you are guilty or innocent, what answer are you gonna give? "oh, right, I was totally guilty of that, guess you shouldn't give me another thousand dollars?" So here we go. You're not Jesus, Ramy. The Jews haven't been brainwashed into thinking you're a pariah. We're both shouting conspiracy. Except my conspiracy relies on at least one account being truthful, and yours relies on ALL of them being out to get you. Surely you can understand why I might not take your word for it.

Though I wasn't lying there, I know you were never banned from DA. That was Seki.

sfabro


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Re: Mythology-Busters



No mythology is safe.



Check your scribe for local listings!

great job!

nato2010


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AdderXYU wrote:I never tooted my own horn all over your thread or claimed you were banned from conventions or deviant art. I love your work.

See what I did there? I said things people could easily find evidence to prove otherwise.

Look, whether you are guilty or innocent, what answer are you gonna give? "oh, right, I was totally guilty of that, guess you shouldn't give me another thousand dollars?" So here we go. You're not Jesus, Ramy. The Jews haven't been brainwashed into thinking you're a pariah. We're both shouting conspiracy. Except my conspiracy relies on at least one account being truthful, and yours relies on ALL of them being out to get you. Surely you can understand why I might not take your word for it.

Though I wasn't lying there, I know you were never banned from DA. That was Seki.



Women are awesome

ramyb


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AdderXYU wrote:1) No, because if I had a boyfriend, he probably wouldn't have been dating a girl. However, ignoring the fact that I'm straight and male, if I noticed trends that went along with what psycho-Zippy, the laziest elf was complaining about, I would certainly think twice

2) How do you judge "dislike." If I am an employer and I notice that MULTIPLE employers have had issues with a potential employee, I am certainly going to think twice, and if I do end up hiring him, I'm going to keep a damn good eye on him to make sure I don't see what they saw. After all, it is more likely that he literally was a jerk in all his past jobs than that he was simply misunderstood and disliked greatly for it by his bosses. You understand that I'd be calling bosses and people he cited himself, not just random employees, right?

3) There are a number of factors: how often has the kid been caught cheating? Are his test scores reflecting the quality of his class performance? Do I feel like the accuser is trustworthy, or at least more-so than the accused? Whatever the case, I love how you're painting yourself as the poor misunderstood kid. Very heart-rending, very twee.



1) In this situation, the "trends that went along with what psycho-Zippy, the laziest elf was complaining about" are winning derbies. Have you seen a single other piece of evidence here on woot to support any claim you are making?

2) Your analogy might include previous employers, but in this case, the evidence you are relying on is from peers rather than higher-ups. So, for example, if a previous boss, or more applicably, authority figure (say, convention or deviantart staff) ever gave any evidence for wrongdoing, your thinking would be sound here. But this situation is much closer to mine, where other disgruntled artists chose to lash out at me, and you are taking their word for it.

3) Let's consider the factors you mention in this case: The kid has been caught cheating only by this particular group of peers, his overall performance is consistently high (after all, I've had several sellout shirts, which is consistent with my vote totals), and the accusers are random people on the internet with whom you are not at all familiar.

AdderXYU wrote:Look, whether you are guilty or innocent, what answer are you gonna give? "oh, right, I was totally guilty of that, guess you shouldn't give me another thousand dollars?" So here we go. You're not Jesus, Ramy. The Jews haven't been brainwashed into thinking you're a pariah. We're both shouting conspiracy. Except my conspiracy relies on at least one account being truthful, and yours relies on ALL of them being out to get you. Surely you can understand why I might not take your word for it.



Actually, my conspiracy relies on only the ones you are referencing to be incorrect, while stating that the ones from official sources (AKA otakon staff and lawyers) are true. I don't think everyone is out to get me, only people who have shown dislike and disgust for me and my art style consistently. Kind of like you.

AdderXYU


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ramyb wrote:Actually, my conspiracy relies on only the ones you are referencing to be incorrect, while stating that the ones from official sources (AKA otakon staff and lawyers) are true. I don't think everyone is out to get me, only people who have shown dislike and disgust for me and my art style consistently. Kind of like you.



http://www.otakon.com/news_article.asp?id=429

To quote the relevant info:

First, there were several complaints this year about a group of individuals who obtained 14 tables, all of which allegedly showcased one artist's work. Our members were concerned that this group "gamed the system", and while we did investigate, it was not possible to prove this claim at the convention itself. That said, there was certainly sufficient concern among our staff that we are reviewing the Alley reservation rules and process, in hopes of making such rules-bending less likely in the future. Whatever changes we make will be announced when they are ready.



"unable to prove guilty" is not strictly the same as "proven innocent". The rest of the paragraph certainly provides context, I feel.

niickwii


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Re: Legendairy



i actually thought it was graham crackers =/

niickwii


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Re: Pandora's Cookie Jar



this is very creative and nice interpretation of a kid opening a cookie jar u have my vote!

ramyb


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AdderXYU wrote:"unable to prove guilty" is not strictly the same as "proven innocent". The rest of the paragraph certainly provides context, I feel.



What you don't understand is that the claim was that it showcased one artist's work, not that there were 14 tables. In fact, there were 260 tables. What I'm telling you is that there were not 14 tables out of them that were mine, the staff also disagreed with the claim (and therefore took no action, as stated), and furthermore, the "photographic evidence" that has been spread around the internet and that you have referenced several times in no way shows 14 tables by any means, EVEN IF you want to believe that everything else I'm saying is untrue. If you want to believe that this "conspiracy" is true, then your issue should be that seki and I are the same person, not that we are using multiple accounts. Unfortunately for that argument, even those who have been pushing this issue hard and who have been making the strongest accusations on deviantart know and have admitted that this is not the case. The rules that they want to review are those that allow artists to sign up for 4 tables, and not anything else. The point is that they want to appease people since this turned into such an issue, and by limiting the number of tables we can each have, there will be fewer issues moving forward for the convention.

Oh, and by the way, if you have no response to my analogies, then I'll assume that you agree with me

nevetnod


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This is outstanding.

I like celery.

JadenKale


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ramyb wrote:
Oh, and by the way, if you have no response to my analogies, then I'll assume that you agree with me



Be it 4am EST or 3am CST... if you honestly think that ending your statements as such means you win, you're no less childish than every single person you claim are falsely accusing you of your actions. By far, that's probably the most juvenile thing I've seen you say so far in response to people contesting either of your behaviors. You may as well just said "NEENER NEENER!! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!"

Really, ramy, how many new accounts who apparently are aware of your (or seki's) work and the cons have to come here from DA, or god knows where else, before you concede defeat or admit that you did push rules? You had people pressured into sales by 'friends' who were getting a supposed cut on the deal and ultimately ruined the chances for arguably better artists to get their work more viewing by taking more than your share of tables. Even if it's not 14, you still, based on the information shown, have more than 4.
How many people need to be noted of being harassed into buying pieces when they didn't like it? Yeah, ultimately any person has the right not to drop $10-15 or more on a picture. But pressured sales? And don't get me wrong... I don't believe EVERYTHING I read... if I did that, I'd be a fool. But how many times do I have to read that people were pressured to buy your pictures in multiple places, see that obviously faces in your work are the same over and over and look like templates, just the hair and clothing are all that changed, see your stuff in more than just 4 tables? How much proof from people WE DON'T KNOW coming here day after day to push these points must I have to read that go against you two before you realize we can't possibly trust your little analogies?

AdderXYU


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ramyb wrote:What I'm telling you is that there were not 14 tables out of them that were mine, the staff also disagreed with the claim (and therefore took no action, as stated), and furthermore, the "photographic evidence" that has been spread around the internet and that you have referenced several times in no way shows 14 tables by any means, EVEN IF you want to believe that everything else I'm saying is untrue.



Once again, the official statement is here. I'd be interested to see if I'm the only one who interprets the tone of the post to be far less in your favor than you interpret it as. Just because you're not proven guilty does not mean you're innocent, and I think that the wording of the post, as well as the promise of restructuring the alley, are proof that they were more skeptical than you seem to believe. You'll note that they mention the number of tables, and only use "allege" to describe the artist's work being sold there. They seem pretty content with the number in the official release. "Not possible to prove" is different from "found no evidence of." "Sufficient concern" means "something was fishy and we're going to try not to have it happen again, because we couldn't prove it last time." SAT reading comprehension.

If you want to believe that this "conspiracy" is true, then your issue should be that seki and I are the same person, not that we are using multiple accounts.



"artistically," you may as well be, but as we both agree, neither here nor there.

The rules that they want to review are those that allow artists to sign up for 4 tables, and not anything else.



well yes, that DOES sound like something to have "sufficient concern" over.

The point is that they want to appease people since this turned into such an issue, and by limiting the number of tables we can each have, there will be fewer issues moving forward for the convention.



There's a light on this tree. It won't light on one side. So I'm taking it home to my workshop my dear. I'll fix it up there. then I'll bring it back here.

Oh, and by the way, if you have no response to my analogies, then I'll assume that you agree with me



I answered your analogies. It was your misinterpretation of your own words that i didn't dignify with a response

sfabro


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nevetnod wrote:This is outstanding.



thanks!
glad you like it

great job!

rocks2359


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Re: Impossible friendship



I love this shirt, the colors are great and the sharks below, I can't believe this hasn't gotten more votes! gmv 100%!

Reaper621


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Re: Dragon Slayer



Holy Rollerball (2002), dude..... GMV.... I would buy this from you personally if you didn't win this competition.

fablefire


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AdderXYU wrote:If your daughter got raped, would you give the sex offender who happened to move in next door after he was released from prison the benefit of the doubt? Even if he seemed affable beforehand?



Yeah but this is like the raper giving you a bajillion dollars. OH WHAT NOW BUSINESS DUDES!?

semiriot


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Re: Persephone in the Garden of Hades



This is a great take on the theme.

ferfong


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Re: Griffin



i like the placement! It's a nice, simple design. Digging the colors, too, though I can't really wear cream shirts very well.

I think this is probably the most 'commercial' design I have seen on shirt.woot. i don't mean that as an insult, though most here would take it as one... ;D

Check out JAKKL, Inc.'s Android apps!

nbrosas


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Re: A is for Atlas



jajaja lots of reading.

But holy shiste I'm getting sick of woot, I'd like to get back to the whole witty non-anime shirts, I've been missing out on some of the other shirts recently because the derby winners are so off-putting recently, and this regardless of who the artist is and their past( I'd like to get into that convo.) It's just the same frackin thing over and over again.

nbrosas


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Re: Dragon Slayer



I couldn't wear a dragon shirt, but jeebus this shirt is so artistically gorgeous, the fact that it's not in the fog is making me barf.

JadenKale


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Re: AMUN - RA



I guess my main issue for this design is the coffee ring stain. I'd have rather you incorporated more symbols using that brighter orange/red. I think the flow from top to middle left to lower right would just move the eye across it better.

sed1701


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sed1701 wrote:SaWeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeT ! ! ! !



This would make a great wallpaper, how's about sending me the picture ???????

JadenKale


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nbrosas wrote:jajaja lots of reading.

But holy koi I'm getting sick of woot, I'd like to get back to the whole witty non-anime shirts, I've been missing out on some of the other shirts recently because the derby winners are so off-putting recently, and this regardless of who the artist is and their past( I'd like to get into that convo.) It's just the same frackin thing over and over again.



all you have to do is read. ;) go backwards and you'll see more than enough.

kenney9226


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penguinswoot wrote:The wand you have depict here doesn't belong to Mercury/Hermes, it a symbol of Asklepios, the cult-god of healing.



Thank you for the positive comment! However, I researched this on Wiki"always right, never wrong"pedia, and the very first line seems to disagree with your assertation.

I paste a paragraph from said "reliable source" here:

The caduceus (☤) (/kəˈdjuːsiəs/, -ʃəs, -ˈduː-; κηρύκειον in Greek) or wand of Hermes is typically depicted as a short herald's staff entwined by two serpents in the form of a double helix, and sometimes surmounted by wings. In later Antiquity the caduceus may have provided the basis for the astrological symbol representing the planet Mercury and in Roman iconography was often depicted being carried in the left hand of the Greek god Hermes (Roman god, Mercury), the messenger of the gods, guide of the dead and protector of merchants, gamblers, liars and thieves.

The caduceus is sometimes used as a symbol for medicine, especially in North America, through confusion with the traditional medical symbol, the rod of Asclepius, which has only a single snake and no wings.


# # #

So it appears my use of two snakes and wings makes it a proper caduceus. But thank you for taking the time to fact-check and not pile on with the other pucker haters, and have a super teriffic day!

bradyson


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mjc613 wrote:This is a great drawing, but I couldn't wear it. First of all, I am not familiar with the legend. Second, the design takes up too much of the shirt for me. Third, I don't wear cream very well.

My husband won't wear it, because it isn't funny. My sister wouldn't let her kids wear it, because it is too scary looking. (At least that's what she thinks. She thinks Raggedy Ann is too scary for little children.)

I gave you my reasons for passing on this. I'll bet everyone who hasn't voted has different reasons, and almost all of them have nothing to do with this not being anime.

To me, this would make a great woodcut or poster.



Thanks, I greatly appreciate the constructive criticism.

:c)

BootsBoots


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marypuppe wrote:I knew I'd be safe from the drama here!

Great work as always (although, I was hoping for that rainbow bodily functions one you mentioned, huhu).

GMV



Dammit, Mary! Why didn't you remind me about that one? I totally didn't think about it. Some BFF!

And I don't know about the lack of drama. I was about to insult Adder's grandma. Things certainly would have gone south shortly after that.


lokklyn


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Re: A is for Atlas



That's a lot of garbage to wade through.

Good job on the shirt design; don't let the hurf durfery get you down. It's pretty evident to me that these arguments are going nowhere — it's not possible to change someone's opinion of you online when they're bent on being the largest, most vacuous chocolate starfish on the internet.