AdderXYU wrote:Given the fact that the derby is intended to be anonymous, it is not unthinkable that someone would, indeed, not know you better than that, at least at first blush. Given the plethora of designs this week that are flaunting the anonymity rule, it is not at all shocking I would presume this entry did the same upon seeing it. So regardless of what I may or may not know about you, it's not as though I can say "oh, ***, I know them well enough to know they wouldn't do that", and it's a bit unfair to presume anyone would.
Also, when people are immediately attacking similar ideas with more concept, and later saying ludicrous things like "I don't know how these cats are drawn cute, they look realistic" (news flash: cats are cute. realistic cats are therefore drawn cute), I get at the defense of common sense. That's what I do.
So while I appreciate you clearing up your motivations behind this design, I can't see the thread going differently in a derby such as this without knowing who you were immediately. And even so, I feel that most of my beliefs here would be unchanged, outside of that first impression.
Fair enough. It just sort of shocked me, that's all.
It never once entered my mind that this design would warrant any pandering accusations. I guess it should have. I guess I didn't think it through. I just wanted to hurry up and start sketching so I would have something done in time. Anyway what I'm trying to say is, since I never considered it, I was completely blind-sided by the comment. That combined that with the fact that I care immensely about what you think made me defensive. Whether I was right to get defensive I don't know. I'm just explaining.
mrwednesday wrote:Even with the best of intentions it still boils down to, "I like Clue. I like cats. Let's do Clue with cats.")
You're pretty much right. I guess I just want to make it known that I did it for me. I didn't do it to pander.
godslinger wrote:Actually it sounds like that's exactly what you're doing with your explanation. You're getting defensive, calling yourself out, and saying "well it's not like I'm sekiyoku or deadfrog." So it's okay when you do cute for cute's sake just like anyone else.
I indeed got defensive. It happens.
godslinger wrote:I doubt you'd really want to shrug off a few hundred of those "cute" votes you're getting for this design.
To be honest I'm indifferent because I don't really want to own a shirt to commemorate what is now my least favorite derby ever.
eHalcyon wrote:The great thing about Adder is that he is completely honest and fair in his judgement. There are some designers I know he's disliked that he went on to blog about - which as we all know is a very high honour given Adder's discriminating tastes. Similarly, I don't think he ever blindly praises a design just because a friend submitted it - something too many people do. He may hold his tongue or tone down the harshness, but when he speaks, you can be sure he's calling it like he sees it. No duplicity, no equivocation.