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mitchellp wrote:So here's my second try at this! I made some adjustments on the baby platypus and turned him the other direction. And I'm liking it much better. And I hope you do too.

Basically, Mr. Duck is upset because he suspects the new hatchling belongs to the milkman, Mr. Beaver.

Give me a vote if you like it! Thanks!

Here's a close up.

This is really cute but the cross-breeding questions it raises are a little disturbing, lol!!!

sakleehop wrote:This is really cute but the cross-breeding questions it raises are a little disturbing, lol!!!

I'm glad you dig it!

JadenKale wrote:Let me rush to count how many of ***'s shirts I have...



::counts::


oh... none.

Well obviously JadenKale can't understand a sarcastic comment. I think what truffleshuffle was saying is that it seems like the shirts steeped in drama are the shirts getting the votes a lot of the time. Controversy brings more attention, attention brings more votes and for every scathing comment the crtics leave there will be 20 sympathetic supporters who rush to defend the shirt with their comments and votes.

jasneko wrote:Thanks people.

Ooh, very different from your usual work. The whole image appears to be a face. Intentional?

Re: Life is a mystery

Good colors. Bad rejection. Rainbows are a mystery to kids, and some adults too.

honzo wrote:Are you and adder married or just lovers?

If they are, they can call me for a 3-way anytime, because they're absolutely right on all counts.

Also, join date, japanese-esque username, etc. :]

Re: Murder Mystery

Great design and color choice. Slightly morbid, but you always need a dark shirt for your bad days. ;D

Re: Murder Mystery

I like the idea behind this shirt. I think it fits fine into the mystery category. If you look they're coming out of a book and the book is at least halfway through. So it's reasonable to assume that by that point in the mystery book shown, they have an idea of who did what. It's a cool idea of a story coming off the pages of a novel.

It may be a little graphic, it would probably go over better with people if the girl was just pointing a gun and hadn't actually fired. I personally don't care all that much though I admit I would probably hesitate and think over where I would wear this version.

I have, however, seen worse on shirt woot. I personally feel Shear Bad Luck from May 20th was far more graphic since there was blood and bone. This is just an outline. If that shirt can get through without being rejected, I don't see why this one wouldn't.

eHalcyon wrote:No problem. And major props to you for your willingness to learn! Too many people in this derby have been overreacting and arguing when people explain to them what "text" is according to woot, or when their design gets rejected. Your pleasant attitude is refreshing.

Exactly... You are a product of your mistakes... or you are lost in them..
(at least for me..)

blambelet wrote:Well obviously JadenKale can't understand a sarcastic comment. I think what truffleshuffle was saying is that it seems like the shirts steeped in drama are the shirts getting the votes a lot of the time. Controversy brings more attention, attention brings more votes and for every scathing comment the crtics leave there will be 20 sympathetic supporters who rush to defend the shirt with their comments and votes.

I totally took it as sarcasm, thus the comment I made.

Re: Mysterious Fathoms Below

Wish it would show the end of the tail. It would be more kickass, like, trailing along the bottom. ngmv :\

Re: usual suspects

Woot, this better be year 2 anniversary shirt. I would have bought this thing, even though no one would have known what it meant besides me.

Re: look over hare

Still mourning my rejection...alas, here's another try.

Thanks everyone. Yes, it could be about stanky feet.

rejected because: I don't get it.

Hmm really? It's a heart... and a hand.

Re: Murder Mystery

I will buy this shirt to:

Piss off anyone who frowns upon murder displayed prominently upon a t-shirt!

honzo wrote:But this shirt and awesome sauce are identical.

Also its no coincidence that Adders are in the shape of penises IRL.

Long muscular and potent, yes.

Re: Secret Sauce

hahahahaha!

fireattmidnight wrote:splendid. Book readers will totally get it. You rock.

I take some issue with this. As an avid reader, I'm not a fan of the design, and I don't think it has any particular appeal to bookworms. There's nothing really literary about it, or mysterious for that matter. If it weren't titled "murder mystery", it'd just be a depiction of a murder amongst two ghostly figures floating above a book. Murder occurs in books of all genres, not just mysteries. The three main elements (the book, the people and the fog) all seem fairly slapped together in a way that, at best, loosely fits the theme.

Re: How we got pictures of the Yeti

Personally I don't like the style. The Yeti's are great but it's summer time and by then they are probably hibernating or something.

Second point, Yeti's can't be cute in a small way without looking ridiculous, I would have gone for a more gentle giant approach a la "A Goofy Movie" (although they did BigFoot).

Third point, the mountains look like a last minute addition tacked on without second thought and completely contrast the "cute yeti" look.

It's not a bad creation but I just don't get why it gets +333 votes during the summer time.

615566 wrote:This is my favorite design. This must be printed somewhere.

i agree. this is way too awesome

Re: red hair

Does this have to do with the fact that red hair is so rare (according to Wikipedia 1-2% of the population) and by implication mysterious?

imsochady wrote:Hahah, I peeked who the artist is, and it said "nicetry." Wahahahaha. Well played sir or ma'am.

I'm glad you got a kick out of that. That was the idea.

Re: rainbow sudoku

I'd love to get this printed on random shirt colors!

blambelet wrote:Well obviously JadenKale can't understand a sarcastic comment. I think what truffleshuffle was saying is that it seems like the shirts steeped in drama are the shirts getting the votes a lot of the time. Controversy brings more attention, attention brings more votes and for every scathing comment the crtics leave there will be 20 sympathetic supporters who rush to defend the shirt with their comments and votes.

And that should not be how shirts get printed.

That's like saying that if my cat dies, I should get printed. Which is untrue.

cleverconveyence wrote:If they are, they can call me for a 3-way anytime, because they're absolutely right on all counts.

Also, join date, japanese-esque username, etc. :]

I don't know what marm is up to, but have your friends call my friends and we can be friends, you know what I'm sayin'?

Re: Murder Mystery

I don't see how this fits the theme...without knowing it's supposed to be a mystery book. I would say it looks like an action-adventure book since there is no element of mystery.

Anyways...all I was going to say was...this isn't a very good looking shirt.

re: life is a mystery

I think it's a mystery as to who painted the rainbow on the shirt, she was apparently caught?

Re: Whodunnit?

I really like this! Placement, look of the objects, everything.

jmmbell1987 wrote:I take some issue with this. As an avid reader, I'm not a fan of the design, and I don't think it has any particular appeal to bookworms. There's nothing really literary about it, or mysterious for that matter. If it weren't titled "murder mystery", it'd just be a depiction of a murder amongst two ghostly figures floating above a book. Murder occurs in books of all genres, not just mysteries. The three main elements (the book, the people and the fog) all seem fairly slapped together in a way that, at best, loosely fits the theme.

People who read genre fiction often don't understand the nuances of truly just loving books. I love books for the art of crafting a story well. That doesn't mean every book I read must be flawless, but it does mean the book has to do what it intends, and do so well. Whether it is War and Peace, or Don't Let The Pigeon Drive the Bus. So I want a bookish shirt that does that WELL. This doesn't execute well at all. It is muddy and ugly.

I also didn't pick up nevermore, because it is also executed horribly. It is hacked apart with no concern for content, and echoed back so clinically I can get no enjoyment out of it. I can't see how anyone who truly cares about literature (or design for that matter) could want either.

Re: A Mysterious Conspiracy

Of course this was going to shoot to the top, its got cute animals on it!

AdderXYU wrote:Text is not different from pi because IT IS NOT A PURE SYMBOL. IT IS A LETTER IN THE GREEK ALPHABET. PLEASE READ EVERYONE ELSES RESPONSES AND LEARN SOMETHING.

A triangle, on the other hand, is a shape. I can type a dog in Milestones, if Milestones even still exists anywhere. Does that mean I can't draw a dog because it is text? No. That is stupid. To the same degree, a dash is just a line. You can't reject for a line. Lines are important. But you CAN reject if a dash is used as a minus sign, or if you made ASCII art out of hyphens.

Let's put it this way. If you could logically see it in a book, it is text. That includes punctuation and brackets and every single letter and number and other languages that use different alphabets. There. That is the definition used. Nothing this derby has been rejected for text that actually is worthy of existing anyway. So shut up and think about what you've done. The class expects an apology when we meet tomorrow.

None of your arguments follow. All letters and all symbols are fundamentally shapes or made of shapes 'O' for instance is nothing more then a circle or oval. Nearly every pure shape you can imagine has a symbolic word like equivalent. For instance a square denoted the end of a mathematical proof and stands in place for QED. I can open up virtually any advance math book and see it TYPED in. By your standered a square must be equivalent to text. Like wise a capital delta is nothing more then a triangle.

The use of pi in this shirt is fundamentally different then text. It has a full range of meanings and deep symboligy. The way it was used in this shirt is fundamentally detracted from the shape's nature as a letter.

Perhaps I should reiterate what I've been saying. The symbol pi is fundamentally a shape, as is delta (triangle) as is QED (square) as if virtual every other letter out there. What makes these acceptable as not text on other shirts is there meaning and there use. I believe that given the nature of the shirt that the author was lauding the nature of pi as a shape, as having complexity as well as mystery about it. I don't believe they where using it as a letter. Hence it would not be text.

As for your final statement I would disagree. I feel that this shirt is worthy of existing.

I think it has a too many colors.

nicetry wrote:Say I decided to resub this... what colors would you use?

I don't think your palate is bad at all. A darker blue may set a more ominous tone, but I do like the 2(3?)-color treatment.

My main caveat is that you see the boy first, then the monster. I want to discover with the boy what lurks beneath, not before he sees it.

Maybe blue shirt/blue monster boy in light gray (if you want to keep that nighttime feeling)?

Before doing any drastic color change, I'd see if just a simple change of the boy to orange and monster to red makes it stronger or weaker. I do think the colors you have already chosen make it a bit more unique...I'd expect this to be blue or black...I would not expect red, and that is partly why I like it.

AdderXYU wrote:And that should not be how shirts get printed.

That's like saying that if my cat dies, I should get printed. Which is untrue.

thank you, that's what i was saying. I don't think it should work that way either.

EndGameOmega wrote:None of your arguments follow. All letters and all symbols are fundamentally shapes or made of shapes 'O' for instance is nothing more then a circle or oval. Nearly every pure shape you can imagine has a symbolic word like equivalent. For instance a square denoted the end of a mathematical proof and stands in place for QED. I can open up virtually any advance math book and see it TYPED in. By your standered a square must be equivalent to text. Like wise a capital delta is nothing more then a triangle.

The use of pi in this shirt is fundamentally different then text. It has a full range of meanings and deep symboligy. The way it was used in this shirt is fundamentally detracted from the shape's nature as a letter.

Perhaps I should reiterate what I've been saying. The symbol pi is fundamentally a shape, as is delta (triangle) as is QED (square) as if virtual every other letter out there. What makes these acceptable as not text on other shirts is there meaning and there use. I believe that given the nature of the shirt that the author was lauding the nature of pi as a shape, as having complexity as well as mystery about it. I don't believe they where using it as a letter. Hence it would not be text.

As for your final statement I would disagree. I feel that this shirt is worthy of existing.

Weakest argument ever.

Pi being used as a shape here makes it 100% off topic, just like arguing that question marks are being used as a shape makes them off topic. It would still be rejected.

Past that, though, you're still incredibly wrong. There is a difference between a triangle and delta given how they are used, and if there were lines that happened to be shaped like a B or a 9, they would likely be kept as well, if there was no reason to believe they were meant to be letters. On the other hand, if you were to create a shirt that looked like a sorority or fraternity shirt with three triangles on it, and called it "delta delta delta", it would be rejected, just like this one is. Except that pi is VERY RARELY JUST A SHAPE. IT IS A LETTER.

Re: usual suspects

Great idea. Too bad for the rejection.

AdderXYU wrote:People who read genre fiction often don't understand the nuances of truly just loving books. I love books for the art of crafting a story well. That doesn't mean every book I read must be flawless, but it does mean the book has to do what it intends, and do so well. Whether it is War and Peace, or Don't Let The Pigeon Drive the Bus. So I want a bookish shirt that does that WELL. This doesn't execute well at all. It is muddy and ugly.

I also didn't pick up nevermore, because it is also executed horribly. It is hacked apart with no concern for content, and echoed back so clinically I can get no enjoyment out of it. I can't see how anyone who truly cares about literature (or design for that matter) could want either.

I don't see the main appeal to this shirt as being the book. In fact, I feel like the main appeal is a guy getting his ****in' brain blown out, which is more pulp than high literature. The book is just a bonus; I agree that it is definitely silly to vote for this because one 'likes books.'

And as for Nevermore, you have to remember it is a T-shirt and a T-shirt will never be a substitute for the distinct feel of paper between the fingers, and the raised serif print of a page. I think I understand you better now, Adder; while you are still too negative for my taste, it is apparent that you have much higher expectations from what I see as T-shirts first and art second and you see as art first and T-shirts second.

blambelet wrote:thank you, that's what i was saying. I don't think it should work that way either.

So you are saying that people shouldn't complain, even when it is right to do so, or are you saying this shouldn't be allowed to win, because the votes are likely not coming in based on quality?

Because option one is ludicrous, and option two is sensible. Because the only way this derby should work is by ANYTHING other than votes alone. If we cannot trust a pure democracy, checks and balances need to be put in place. Like in real democracies. Such as our own.