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Re: Mystery of the Platypus Solved!! (RESUB)

Unless this design starts gaining an obscene amount of votes, I don't think it'll win. But I've been tweaking my design, and I plan on re-submitting on another site after my 60 days with woot expires. Feel free to critique my current design in this forum for now. I'll provide a link when this design is available on another site.

maybe the stork brought it.

6 colors

Lemon
Baby Blue
Red
Orange
Grass
White

kylemittskus wrote:"Rejected because: A little too gruesome thanks." And this one isn't?!

I would really like to know, SHIRT WOOT STAFF, why this has not been rejected for the same reason. I am honestly and maturely asking.

I'll answer for myself. Are you old enough to remember How Mortal Kombat for the Super Nintendo had white "sweat" while the Sega Genesis version had red blood?

Have you ever seen a James Bond movie? During the opening song the women are essentially naked, but it's PG-13 because they're in silhouette. In some of the songs you can actually see nipples when they turn in the light.

So this shirt changed the color of the blood and removed detail by silhouetting the murder. That's why I think it's PG-13.

midflinx wrote:I'll answer for myself. Are you old enough to remember How Mortal Kombat for the Super Nintendo had white "sweat" while the Sega Genesis version had red blood?

Have you ever seen a James Bond movie? During the opening song the women are essentially naked, but it's PG-13 because they're in silhouette. In some of the songs you can actually see nipples when they turn in the light.

So this shirt changed the color of the blood and removed detail by silhouetting the murder. That's why I think it's PG-13.

better question... aren't people old enough to remember Sega also old enough to be more mature than wanting something so poorly done and "shocking". Seriously, wanting a shirt like this is what you do when you're 16, and think My Chemical Romance has all the answers to life. By the age that would remember Sega, you've either reined your angst in to something more refined and realized rebellion of that nature just makes you as much a tool as the preps you wrote livejournal poems about, or else you became a juggalo.

Re: An Unfolding Mystery

one of the first shirts in a while that I will be buying if it prints :D

AdderXYU wrote:(snip)

wanting a shirt like this is what you do when you're 16

(snip)

It may be what you would have wanted when you were 16, but sadly, you're basing your argument on the assumption that most wooters who vote in these derbies are people with a mature, well-established sense of aesthetics. Sadly, I think there's been plenty of evidence to the contrary.

AdderXYU wrote:better question... aren't people old enough to remember Sega also old enough to be more mature than wanting something so poorly done and "shocking". Seriously, wanting a shirt like this is what you do when you're 16, and think My Chemical Romance has all the answers to life. By the age that would remember Sega, you've either reined your angst in to something more refined and realized rebellion of that nature just makes you as much a tool as the preps you wrote livejournal poems about, or else you became a juggalo.

Or you break out of AdderXYU's false dichotomy and don't want the shirt because it's shocking, but for other aesthetic reasons. What does it say about you that you've posted dozens of times about this shirt? You must really think you're going to convince some people it should be rejected and the art is badly done.

I happen to like the grid-effect of the halftones. How it will print is another question. What other "problems" with the halftones are there?

Are you interested in explaining why my examples with Mortal Kombat and James Bond aren't applicable to this shirt? Or should I just wait for kylemittskus to reply?

Re: An Unfolding Mystery

Phew, this is gonna be a BATTLE of a derby! I'd be laughing if I didn't want this shirt so much.

Re: sock mystery (resub)

This happens a lot. lost socks. Good idea, cute sock.

Re: Murder Mystery

Several comments have mentioned that the dots on this design won't look good on a t-shirt. Does anyone have a picture of an actual shirt that uses this same effect? I'd like to see it for myself to determine whether this technique is just something I like on the computer screen or not.

snarkygal wrote:Um...Navy IS blue

ROYAL blue. Notice the Navy color doesn't have 'blue' in its name.

midflinx wrote:I'll answer for myself. Are you old enough to remember How Mortal Kombat for the Super Nintendo had white "sweat" while the Sega Genesis version had red blood?

Have you ever seen a James Bond movie? During the opening song the women are essentially naked, but it's PG-13 because they're in silhouette. In some of the songs you can actually see nipples when they turn in the light.

So this shirt changed the color of the blood and removed detail by silhouetting the murder. That's why I think it's PG-13.

The video game argument I don't think applies because video games are not rated based on the same rating scale woot follows (I don't think). And I think that Sega and Super NES were pre-ratings? What are the new Mortal Kombat games rated? My guess is M for "Mature" which I would equate to an R rating.

The silhouette argument makes a lot more sense, and I can see your point, although the only Bond film I've seen was Casino Royal.

Mavyn wrote:Votes can be taken away, yes. Most likely what happened is that people voted for this, as well as something else that's in/near the fog. As it gets closer to the Thursday cut off, they're removing their vote for their 'least' favorite design.

Or, they think removing their vote now and giving it back later will impact the hotness later...Hard to say.

didn't woot fix that? meaning, your vote only counts towards the hotness the first time you do it. so no matter how many times someone adds/deletes a vote it doesn't matter.

i for one am sorely disappointed. i hate that yeti design, and the penguin one, and the gray one really isn't doing it for me either. rabble.

Re: Unsuspecting artist falls into the mysterious fog

This will be rejected for being a woot reference.

Re: Cats With Weapons

fooooggg!!!!!!!!!

kylemittskus wrote:The video game argument I don't think applies because video games are not rated based on the same rating scale woot follows (I don't think). And I think that Sega and Super NES were pre-ratings? What are the new Mortal Kombat games rated? My guess is M for "Mature" which I would equate to an R rating.

The silhouette argument makes a lot more sense, and I can see your point, although the only Bond film I've seen was Casino Royal.

It was during the SNES and Genesis console generation that the ratings came out because of games like Mortal Kombat. Nintendo required the SNES version have slightly toned down violence and white "sweat" instead of red blood. Since the new games are intentionally violent and gory, they're more like examples of the rejected Osama shirt with red blood running down the face.

While the ratings for video games aren't exactly the same as the MPAA's, since most everyone is debating this shirt in terms of whether it is PG-13, it seems a reasonable comparison. Certainly the James Bond silhouette example is. Even if you haven't seen the other movies.

midflinx wrote:Certainly the James Bond silhouette example is. Even if you haven't seen the other movies.

And I conceded that. I can easily see that point.

re: cats with weapons

Its a great design, but why would this make a good shirt? Why would I want to wear this?

midflinx wrote:Or you break out of AdderXYU's false dichotomy and don't want the shirt because it's shocking, but for other aesthetic reasons. What does it say about you that you've posted dozens of times about this shirt? You must really think you're going to convince some people it should be rejected and the art is badly done.

I happen to like the grid-effect of the halftones. How it will print is another question. What other "problems" with the halftones are there?

Are you interested in explaining why my examples with Mortal Kombat and James Bond aren't applicable to this shirt? Or should I just wait for kylemittskus to reply?

they aren't applicable to this shirt, first of all, because they are based on ratings given by video game and movie ratings groups, not woot derbies. As woot derbies go, this is too much. There have been VERY rare instances of entries or prints with violent or sexual imagery allowed around here, so one must presume this being allowed is an EXCEPTION to an otherwise VERY CONSISTENT RULE. As actually printed shirts go, the strongest example is the recent "shear bad luck", which while being gruesome is also a humor shirt. This piece is serious, and the violence is done in a more serious way. The two pieces are different largely due to the obvious tone differences. And finally, woot's PG-13, again, is closer to a PG or G. You can cite movies until you are blue in the face, it doesn't change that woots rating system is different and incredibly conservative for most designers. If this makes it to print, it will likely be the first of its kind ever to do so via the derby. It's already in VERY slim company as far as designs with a mature enough topic that don't get rejected.

I use "mature" as a rating word only. I don't think most "mature" items have even a shred of maturity in them.

I don't think I'm going to convince anyone the art is badly done. It is so badly done that if you can't see it immediately on opening, then you simply will never understand how bad it is. I would argue such a person shouldn't be allowed to vote. The tiny halftones, the deformed silhouettes, the awful color choices in the "smoke" area, the position and shape of the design, the hackneyed and uninspiring content... if you can look at these and find something positive, that doesn't reflect poorly on my convincing. It reflects poorly on you.

As others have pointed out, there are spots where the halftones are too small. But the halftones mainly boil down to color choices a blind man would mock you for. It will look like a smudge of the ugliest proportions, because no one with a feel for palettes would allow it to happen.

NameyMcName wrote:Does anyone have a picture of an actual shirt that uses this same effect?

Here is the Grim Optimism shirt by the same artist (sorry mystery lovers)

Shirt Comp:

Here is my shirt after about 10 washings:


(right-click and "view image" to see the whole thing)

Nope, the flash didn't make it lighter, the asphalt is that light as are the supposed half-tones behind the reaper in the shape of a skull. I didn't even know they were there until just now when I took a picture and looked up close.

It may not be the best example, but I hope it helps.

I'm am beginning to despise Woot and its voters.

Re: How many licks does it take?

3. Mystery solved!

Re: Murder Mystery

Ive read some of the reviews and I think they are missing the picture. I love the graphic. I think the smoke effect (whatever you call it) is sick. I could see maybe the half tones coming out a little better on say a navy or a black, but all in all love the shirt! Besides, I have never seen a shirt where someone gets there head blown off. Great job! Going to have to teach me those effects!

LBNSean wrote:maybe the stork brought it.

6 colors

Lemon
Baby Blue
Red
Orange
Grass
White

If you didn't also use gray around the stork and the sack, then those are gradients.

Re: A Mysterious Conspiracy

Hey! im the guy nipping at your heels in 6th. I love your shirt design. I am suprise you arent in the fog. Funny concept and great art work. I understand that brown is a hard color to sell, but I stand behind with a white shirt that apparently is taboo. So we hold strong together. Even though I still think how many votes my shirt got is hillarious you on the other hand deserve to be up here. Good luck!

kylemittskus wrote:Although it would be better than this shirt.

there would be more mystery involved, if nothing else.

Re: tonight, a tail of murder

Awesome.

re: how we got pictures of the yeti

This shirt should really be called "How the Yetis got Pictures of Me". I mean, that ones pointing his camera at ME and his uncannily similar friend is doing a peace sign to make me smile. That has to be what's going on with that camera angle, right?

Re: That's Impossible!

hoho this made me laugh. Very well done.

godslinger wrote:If you didn't also use gray around the stork and the sack, then those are gradients.

:[ yeah
that mean automatic rejection?
i know it said strongly discouraged ;_;

And godslinger, thanks for posting the picture; it was really helpful. I didn't realize that the shirt colors could come out so different from the template.

NameyMcName wrote:And godslinger, thanks for posting the picture; it was really helpful. I didn't realize that the shirt colors could come out so different from the template.

You're welcome.

Mavyn wrote:Looks like Indiana Jones.

I had high hopes for a design about another Fedora wearing adventurist with a penchant for globes.

But this will do nicely.

Re: The Mysterious Case of the Footstep City

Hah! Very cool. Not sure it's on topic, and sadly, I tuck my shirts in so the interesting part would go missing...

Re: How we got pictures of the Yeti

Ignore all of those other people - white is a perfectly fine and acceptable color for this shirt, it goes with the pattern, and if they don't want it they don't have to buy one. The camera does seem to be pointing at a viewer, instead of at the other yeti, and that sort of bugs me, though i could see it as "how the yeti got pictures of us", though i guess that doesn't really fit the theme. I really like the design, and might buy one even with the camera angle bugging me a little, but don't get disheartened but some of those other pessimistic comments. You can do it! I hope this gets into the fog soon.

hotdam wrote:Its a great design, but why would this make a good shirt? Why would I want to wear this?

Because cats are awesome and the game Clue rocks.

Re: Mysterious Fathoms Below

Amazing design, I want one!!! Everybody should vote for this, i was ecstatic earlier when i saw it in the recent hotness bar. I really hope this wins.

Urtawkin2adork83 wrote:Here's another idea. get the f out of my conversation.
Thank you

Hmmm let's see:
-Open forum
-Wasn't your conversation to begin with
-And you're being a general d-bag about it.

Other than watching you flail helplessly as you lose in a battle of wits, I see no reason to go further. But I'm sure you'll continue to look like an ass.

RaefWolfe wrote:Use hex color finder or another hex-determining color program. They're right - it's not white, but creme.

I feel that the design would be stronger if the people were creme, though.

If it the people were creme Mrs. White's maid uniform wouldn't have any contrast and she would appear to be b/w and everyone else in color. I'd like to see it as an option but I suspect that this works better because of the uniform.

cobolisdead wrote:Yes, I've been here long enough to see her slide into how she's been for the past few months. Used to be the wife and I liked and respected her. Used to be.

It's not the past few months. It's however many months since the versus derby. I'll let you go find the link to see why that derby, if you don't remember the outcome. It's not the artists' fault that junk wins. For example, Quick Brown Fox was a joke entry and I never expected it to win, hence I never expected money from it. It just made me laugh when I was doodling and happened to hit a note with voters. I see no reason to smash the artists for voting patterns.

My rule of thumb now is to
1) SUPPORT the artists (so long as they don't break rules or persue copyright infringement like Broccoli). It's not their fault that voters are weird and the woot system is shoddy.
2) RESPECT the opinions of others and any well founded arguments they might have. For example, I respect that you have a different opinion from me regarding the shirt being on theme. I see a certain episode of NCIS in it which took an hour to unravel the mystery. You don't. Oh well. You however, have little to no respect for my rationale in supporting artists or my opinion on this shirt (or others) and think me a liar and a sellout. Thanks champ.

I don't like the system around here either, but when I can't stand the ridiculousness of it all I leave for a week. I don't flame people. If you think that my support of artists and disapproval of unfounded flames is selling out then that's the way it goes. That is your choice to project a negative light on me and whoever else you want. Bummer.