Shirt.Woot

Re: All Glory to the Hypno-Bag

the looks I'd be getting from my postal person... hehe

Re: [url=http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=34434]My Woot Entry

kicky

Re: Paradise is in the Bag! v2

nice flow

Re: Swirling into Woot

nice

Re: Woot Oasis

good use of the colors...

Re: A Monsterous Deal!

I thought about doing one like this...I like the way the face jumps off the bag

Xanzibar wrote:I always submit my templates at 600x600, and it appears to work out fine.

When Woot changed their layout (a few months ago now) the size for shirt comps went down to 580x580. It may not have been so noticeable, but you might want to use the correct size to avoid possible reductions in quality in the future.

Thank you very much everyone for the votes so far. I have never been in the fog before and of course hope I am fortunate enough to remain there throughout the rest of the derby. Having never been here before, I really don't know what to expect in the morning.

I'm usually at work when the derby ends, so I don't get to witness the final countdown. And I've never before had a dog in the fight toward the end, so I'm nervous and excited all at once. Needless to say, I am very happy with how this derby has gone, and regardless of how it ultimately ends, I am thrilled with the results.

That being said though, I would obviously shoot to the moon if I were to actually make it to the podium, and since I never actually posted the final design to the forum, I figured I would do it here this once and ask you for your support if you like it. I do feel like maybe I'm the underdog of the fog, but with the final stretch around the corner, I would love to become the dark horse instead! Thanks for your consideration, and thanks again to those of you who have already voted. You made my week!

Re: Let's go to the Beach!

So sorry that this joyous design did not make it into the fog.

Lucky, would you want to shop it around to a towel company at some point?

Hey woot, how about getting this manufactured as a beach towel for us to enjoy?

All the little details in this design are delightful. My favorite is the little guy giving a fist pump after getting his new shirt.

I hope this prints.

Re: Woot across the world

simple but nice

Re: One shirt, no shoes, no pants, no service!

fun

earthart wrote:Thank you very much everyone for the votes so far. I have never been in the fog before and of course hope I am fortunate enough to remain there throughout the rest of the derby. Having never been here before, I really don't know what to expect in the morning.

I'm usually at work when the derby ends, so I don't get to witness the final countdown. And I've never before had a dog in the fight toward the end, so I'm nervous and excited all at once. Needless to say, I am very happy with how this derby has gone, and regardless of how it ultimately ends, I am thrilled with the results.

That being said though, I would obviously shoot to the moon if I were to actually make it to the podium, and since I never actually posted the final design to the forum, I figured I would do it here this once and ask you for your support if you like it. I do feel like maybe I'm the underdog of the fog, but with the final stretch around the corner, I would love to become the dark horse instead! Thanks for your consideration, and thanks again to those of you who have already voted. You made my week!

It's been fun seeing the great response you've had from the voters this week! I really am hoping to see you waving from the moon! Once again - Great Job, and good luck!

Re: Let's go to the Beach!

@input
@Xanzibar
@bradyson-hope you didn't get sunburned too badly
@ansharp
@lonelypond
@spongecake- a towel would really be something.

Thanks for all the support everyone!

tgentry wrote:If I have an object and I rotate it 45 degrees it is still the same object. Say it's a coffee mug. If the handle faces north or west, it's still the same coffee mug. If I break off the handle or paint over it, it's not the same coffee mug. Rotating or translating (aka moving) an object (in this case a logo) is not altering the object itself. Clever or not, the modifications that were rejected are actual modifications that change the icon given. I can open up a thesaurus and come up with twelve other words than destroyed, but it's essentially that. You are no longer dealing with the same entity.

As for what most companies would do, that's complete speculation. I have a Diet Coke can on my desk right now that has the logo running sideways. I'm pretty sure at one point they ran at 45 degrees. Yet the logo remains intact. If woot wants to straighten it after the fact that's their business (I don't think a slight tilt makes it any harder to distinguish the brand. You yourself said you didn't even notice until recently). Tilting it didn't change the icon provided, so it falls under the rules given for this derby. If it didn't it would have been rejected. You said before that entries had been rejected for this but mine had not. In truth none had that I could see (if you see one point it out, I looked them over twice but could have missed one). There's no double standard or unfairness as some would prefer to believe.

You're free to disagree with my view on this, you certainly don't have to apologize for it. I'm simply offering a rebuttal to what I see as unfounded complaints I've received on this entry.

Look what we have here! DIdn't expect to wake up and sees feathers flew over me just saying the logo was crooked. I'm glad you guys kept the arguments respectful though and you both make strong cases for your perspectives. I was gonna stay on the sidelines, but this discussion is a good one and I think I can add something to it.

I studied this a good bit and can see both sides and no matter what the argument thefact is they allowed the design to stand and I'm pretty sure it's gonna be the winner and I'm happy for it. BUT I'm also pretty sure that woot will straihgten the crook outta the logo when they print it.

Here's why. We've seen the rules. Logo "exactly as presented in the included templates" The logo in the template is oriented a specific way. Now I give you the fact that the logo used is intact in that it isn't destroyed, obscured. But I have to say it IS altered.

The woot logo is an icon and icons are diffrent from text logos. Changing their orientation can effect the message so most of the time icon logos are set in one specific way.

You said in your first response "positioning, rotating,and scaling are not destroying the logo in any way" and the first sentence in your follow up is "If I have an object and I rotate it 45 degrees it is still the same object."

But look at my first 3 pix below and you see that isn't right. The guy in the wheelchair is fallin over, the Red Cross becomes the red multiplication sign, adn the poor Michelin man went from having a swell day to happily falling off a cliff!







And since you say rotating can be part of the mix, you chose 45 degrees. Would 90 degrees be alright? How about 180 degrees? Or any degree you choose? See below and let me know what you think.





They ain't lookin too good. Hey, whoa, wait a minute. Those would make some neat shirts actually! I call dibs if they haven't already been done! Unlikely. The expression on the falcon's face is priceless.

Back to the issue. What angles are ok? Would any angle be ok with the woot logo?



See? Changing something's angle, especially na icon, does change what it is. In you guys' first back/forth saturnid pointed out that there were rejections for designs having a combo of altered and unaltered woot logos, and you answered they were all rejected cuz the logo was blocked or deformed some way. In your follow up you asked for an example.

I remember one off the top of my head because I was bummed when it got tossed. It's right near bottom at least on my screen when you sort by vote called Universe Of Woot. I really like that one and had a hard time figuring out what was wrong withit.

I read the thread to sort it out and seems the only issue with it is that the unaltered logo at the bottom right was too small. but reading the rules again they said specifically scaling was ok. They didn't say what size or anything so that artist imo did follow the rules exactly and was still rejected.

That's beside the point tho. woot makes strange rejections for strange reasons often. With yours the issue is you didn't include an unaltered logo because I'm thinking and it seems saturn is thinking and I'm guessing some other people might think that rotating a logo is alteration. I think my examples made a good argument for that and I'm betting they will straighten the woot logo when they print it. I could be wrong but I guess we'll see who is right.

Sorry to take the other side on this one this time. I'll be out fishing today but will check back later to see if you replied when I get home. Could be at dusk if they're biting! Wish me luck and good luck to you and congrats if you do take it.

re: your woot has been served!

Gotta agree with stargirl! Very Stylish and skilful..;]

Re: Land of the Rising Woot

It's almost as good as a Karate Kid bandana.

re: phonebooth sold seperately (resub)

Holy--! I checked this morning at 6 and I had 157 votes in 23rd place. Checked an hour or so later and I had 175 in 20th. Drove 15 minutes to work and now I have 189! Fantastic! Vote, people, VOTE! :-D

dsdm wrote:Yeah, I liked it better too. And I didn't think until after I resubmitted, but can you have the exclamation mark in a yellow circle? Because then I might have left it as it was without the disqualifying marks. But I just used the blue one in the template to be on the safe side. It does have its advantages though, I think the thumbnail image stands out more. And it seems to be rising in the ranks pretty steadily regardless

The blue shirt with the yellow logo was much better. You've seen everyone using the sun as their woot logo - why change?

smcain wrote:The blue shirt with the yellow logo was much better. You've seen everyone using the sun as their woot logo - why change?

Ambiguity over the whole Woot logo thing. In the edited rules, it said the logo was the exclamation point in the circle, and the logo was included in the template. The logo in the template was blue. It also said when they said exclamation point, they meant "logo" and that it had to be on a blue, black, or yellow background. I wasn't sure at the time if that meant the circle could be those colors, or if it meant the blue circle had to be on a background of those colors. This being my first time entering, I also wasn't sure if multiple versions of the same design were allowed, or if that practice was frowned upon. So I decided to go with what I knew for sure would be allowed. It was also late at night when the design was rejected, so I just wanted to make some quick changes, resubmit, and go to bed.

As to seeing other people use a yellow Woot Logo, I couldn't be sure if that was really allowed or if they just hadn't been banned yet. My original design was submitted immediately when submissions opened on Friday, made it through the first round of rejections based on the Woot Logo, and didn't get rejected until Sunday night. Just last night I saw a design that had been up pretty much from the start get rejected.

I liked the original design too, as the shiny parts made it look more "hero," and the blue shirt was more like Superman. But the new design has started to grow on me too. I think the yellow shirt stands out more in the thumbnail version.

All told, I'm doing pretty well for my first derby. Initial design got within a hair of 7th, and my current design went from 96th to 18th, and is still climbing. I'm eager to see how high it gets before voting ends.

Re: Derby Winners = Bags of Win

The turtle (right hand side 3rd down) has an A on it's shell.

What's up with that?

CrescentDebris wrote:Thanks everyone! It always seems that when I have a week to work on an entry I still only find 1 day to work on it. I had no expectations of being at the top but this idea popped in my head and I thought it would at least be a rather unique entry. It was fun to work on. Especially since I didn't have to decide on colors. Oh the pains of deciding on colors sometimes.

I would totally buy this if you could print it as a shirt. I absolutely LOVE it. Even if you changed it to have no Woot reference on it at all, I would be estatic to have this as a T. It's a very underrated design IMO.

Re: REVOLUTION IS NOW!

Alrighty! We are down to the wire with the derby, let's get some votes in! Fists in the air!

I appreciate all the support and votes that you guys have given this design! I didn't expect that it would get this high up! Thank you

Purplehayesdennison wrote:Yeah it's a peace sign. It may not make sense, it was more of an aesthetic addition. Thanks for the comments.

So thats what it is!! I still think an alligator would be better.

lonelypond wrote:the looks I'd be getting from my postal person... hehe

You wouldn't be getting any. He'd be zombified and constantly falling over, drooling and mumbling about completely nonsensical things, whilst talking to a cat he thinks is a dog.
Thats the power of the hypno bag.

Re: Planet Woot !

Thanks for all the awesome comments guys!!
I thought i was gonna do really well this derby, but i guess this just wasn't my derby. And the fact that there were many more awesome designs coulda had something to do with it.
47th ain't bad. Just gotta get higher next time!

This is hilarious!

Melkoret wrote:This design should win, more than the cloud fogged ones...

Hrmm... Not so. This is a well executed illustration, but if you are not a cat person, than you would not want this on your bag every shirt you get. The designs in the fog are less specific in topic and are probably more appealing to a greater audience.

I am not a cat person and would not want this to win, however I did vote for it due to its overall clean and well done design. A well executed design always deserves a vote in my opinion.

Feeferscat wrote:The turtle (right hand side 3rd down) has an A on it's shell.

What's up with that?

Pretty sure it's just a scribble. It's based on Vandalized Turtle.

themaverick wrote:I read the thread to sort it out and seems the only issue with it is that the unaltered logo at the bottom right was too small. but reading the rules again they said specifically scaling was ok. They didn't say what size or anything so that artist imo did follow the rules exactly and was still rejected.

If you're talking about the entry I think you are, it should be noted that the rejection reason was "modified logo". Presumably the rejectionator saw the MAIN logo in the center of the design, modified, and hit his big red "REJECT" button. I agree that the design did in fact follow all the rules, but the problem was that the actual logo wasn't noticeable - an important trait in branding. If the logo isn't noticeable at a glance, it doesn't well reflect the shirt.woot brand - and that WAS one of the catch-all rules Woot had in place for this derby.

I have to side with tgentry and his interpretation of alteration/modification/destruction of a logo, but you make some great points. My gut instinct is that Woot will leave the logo angled if tgentry's design wins, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they did "correct" the orientation.

Re: there is something awesome in here

Lol cute and so true :D

I just posted this in the Contenders blog but figured it couldn't hurt to put it here because you can never say thank you enough. Thanks to everyone who voted and kept me in the fog. It is deeply appreciated. I unfortunately, well fortunately, am out the door for our family camping trip and will not get the actual results until I come back Sunday. Thanks again especially to rachel1aaron (last time I promise) who was a huge help in bringing the design to life. Before I have a Sally Field moment, I'm going to sign off. Thanks again everyone! Wish me luck! Okay, maybe you can say thank you too much. My excuse is unabated excitement.

KIDA26 wrote:It's not a huge deal, and I am not really upset or anything... I am just a little disappointed.

I have to agree with KIDA26. I like the concept, but the quality isn't all that incredible. The layout really throws the whole thing off for me. Too much empty space in the middle. It also kind of reminds me of the Wu Tang symbol.

Re: Derby Winners = Bags of Win

I dislike that this is in the fog. I appreciate the motivation behind it, getting all those winners in there, but I just don't think it looks good. :-\

How did this not win? Auggghhhh! Twas brilliant.

Re: Cogs

I'd just like to thank the few people that voted for me... YAY!

Re: there is something awesome in here

It would be neat if the bag the cat was looking in also had this image on the side of it... one of those infinite sequence things. I did vote for this, sorry it didn't win .

Speaking of small details...I like how the electrical sockets are smiley faces.. lol