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What is with people clicking "i'd want one" when they admit they don't. Printing shirts that don't sell is worthless, regardless how nice the design is.

And I don't want to take anything away from ya Crescent, the design is creative and well executed. I just loathe the way the derby system isn't used properly.

wootasourous wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I get a sense from this shirt that the tree and everything above is like heaven, and the apple, if she took a bite from it, would send her to hell, meaning under the tree because of the red roots. That's what I get from this shirt at least.

That was indeed the intention with this design. I debated the colors for a long time, switching the roots between red and blue (and originally submitted blue because I thought the red looked too bold), but then I decided ultimately that I preferred the red conceptually, and went ahead with it. Hopefully the fact that the apple and the roots are red (as well as the contrast in colors in general) conveys the point

ramyb wrote:That was indeed the intention with this design. I debated the colors for a long time, switching the roots between red and blue (and originally submitted blue because I thought the red looked too bold), but then I decided ultimately that I preferred the red conceptually, and went ahead with it. Hopefully the fact that the apple and the roots are red (as well as the contrast in colors in general) conveys the point

Yay! Well, I really like both your designs this week. So hopefully you get one or maybe two prints.

Re: Tree of Knowledge (v2)

And also, could you possibly put some close-ups of this one up?

Re: Seeds of New Life

I keep hoping to find something like this out in the woods.

Re: Mechanica Floratica

I like the color combination on this a lot. Great design. +1

Please get this out of the fog.

Re: Impending Doom

My only criticism is the color of the socks. I think a hairy leg would be funnier...or a diff color..

Re: Seeds of New Life

Neat design! I like the purple/blue flowers. I only wish that the grass and flowers extended further beyond the skeleton in a really organic fashion to take up some more space on the shirt. Looks neat though. : )

wootasourous wrote:And also, could you possibly put some close-ups of this one up?

ramyb wrote:

Thanks!

Exohdus wrote:What is with people clicking "i'd want one" when they admit they don't. Printing shirts that don't sell is worthless, regardless how nice the design is.

And I don't want to take anything away from ya Crescent, the design is creative and well executed. I just loathe the way the derby system isn't used properly.

I think some people do it to counteract the voters who spite vote.

And for votes for designs that aren't in or near the fog, I think it's just to encourage that artist a bit, let them know the design is worthwhile, even if it has no chance of printing.

And for designs in the fog, I suspect there are a number of votes just so that certain designs are less likely to print.

Overall, it probably evens out at the end.

DeadFrog wrote:I keep hoping to find something like this out in the woods.

I did once! Wait...

HalfWheat wrote:Okay, on my non-artistically non-calibrated monitor, this looks blue. Is it purple? I mean, when it prints?

I like both colors, but I'm curious how far off my colors are here.

I betcha this would sell out if it printed.

Well, lavender is purple, but I went with more of a blue for this design--although it's not a pure blue. Purple-blue?

Thanks for all the nice comments, everyone! I know this design is a little girly, but I wanted to do something different from my usual submissions (i.e. vomiting xenomorphs, cartoony dinosaurs, dragons wielding giant sausages). Really, I think people were beginning to take me for a dude there for awhile. :P

Re: A Delicate Floral Bouquet I v2

Do you think you could post a larger version, to see all the adorable details? (I'm assuming they're adorable, I can't see them )

This reminds me of Bob The Angry Flower!

http://www.angryflower.com/

CrescentDebris wrote:I previewed on Navy, and someone exclaimed "ITS GREAT BUT I GOT TOO MANY DAMN BLACK SHIRTS!! HOW ABOUT A BRIGHTER COLOR LIKE BANANA!!!!" so I said to myself "LEMON IT IS!".

I do tons of dark shirts anyway and I really like the yellow. So yellow it is. And I don't even own a yellow shirt. That's how much I like the Lemon.

In all seriousness I hope you like it!

Larger Version:

hi crescent...

i hate admitting this because if you don't print i will feel awful, but i am the one who asked for the banana, meaning lemon, but did i really say damn? it is true though i am tired of all the dark shirts. i live in chicago and spring and summer so far have been cold and gray and rainy with the exception of about 10 days. i have a jeep and only got the top down 3 days this year. i am tired of the cold, dark, depressing things so i want bright colors.

i am glad you're at least in 5th, i hope you make the fog again soon and get printed. it is my favorite shirt of the derby, and the yellow just makes it that much better.

thank you for not using depressing colors, although i may be the one depressed if my color request is the reason it doesn't print. good luck, gmv, and def in for 2, maybe 3 when it prints.

azuruli wrote:Well, lavender is purple, but I went with more of a blue for this design--although it's not a pure blue. Purple-blue?

Thanks for all the nice comments, everyone! I know this design is a little girly, but I wanted to do something different from my usual submissions (i.e. vomiting xenomorphs, cartoony dinosaurs, dragons wielding giant sausages). Really, I think people were beginning to take me for a dude there for awhile. :P

Thanks! I pretty much like anything on the blue-to-purple spectrum, but I was curious.

I suspect (with absolutely no evidence) that derby participants and voters are skewed towards males, while the buyers on short.woot are skewed towards females. Which is why I think this would sell better than current voting suggests.

I may be all wrong on that male/female ratio. It might be some weird gender bias that I think the guys want to compete, but the girls want to shop.

jasneko wrote:The look, the feel of cotton.... the fabric of our lives....er... shirts.

Thanks for all the feedback in the pre-derby thread!

good to see you have 2 shirts in the top 10! still climbing! one day i will get my owls!

Re: Seeds of New Life

So that's what happened to Johnny Appleseed.

eHalcyon wrote:Did you convert it into halftones? This may count as complicated gradients and get rejected as such.

Oh well - you were right eHalcyon. Even without benefit of Photoshop - my painting had too many color shadows and shading that tantamounted to complex gradients and halftones that Woot could not print. Live and learn... Thanks for your comments and advice.

Great shirt I really like it, little to bright for me but still I hope it wins.

I live in Texas... bright and sunny makes me wanna die. lol

jasneko wrote:The look, the feel of cotton.... the fabric of our lives....er... shirts.

Thanks for all the feedback in the pre-derby thread!

scratch that! you have 3 in the top 10!!! i didn't realize the prickly one was your's too! soon your day will print....

HalfWheat wrote:I think some people do it to counteract the voters who spite vote.

And for votes for designs that aren't in or near the fog, I think it's just to encourage that artist a bit, let them know the design is worthwhile, even if it has no chance of printing.

And for designs in the fog, I suspect there are a number of votes just so that certain designs are less likely to print.

Overall, it probably evens out at the end.

I find it very dissapointing that there has to be these petty games in just voting for a tee to wear. More artists and wooters in general need to support cameesa imo.

BootsBoots wrote:It's like a Rorschach test.

I got an F the last time I took a Rorschach test. *laughs out loud* Great design and great placement. +1

Exohdus wrote:I find it very dissapointing that there has to be these petty games in just voting for a tee to wear. More artists and wooters in general need to support cameesa imo.

its not that i don't want to support cameesa, it's that i didn't understand how it worked until just now.

Here's an idea: how about, one day out of every two weeks is RamyB day? Anything he submits automatically prints on that day. In exchange, he can't participate in derbies.

Winners:
1. RamyB - money in the bank every two weeks
2. Legions of Ramy fans - guaranteed generic shiny schlock once every two weeks
3. Others - no generic shiny schlock ruining derbies

Losers:
1. Integrity

Since there already is minimal artistic integrity in some winners, no big loss! It's win-win-win!

Sadly, I'm only being half sarcastic...

HalfWheat wrote:I think some people do it to counteract the voters who spite vote.

And for votes for designs that aren't in or near the fog, I think it's just to encourage that artist a bit, let them know the design is worthwhile, even if it has no chance of printing.

And for designs in the fog, I suspect there are a number of votes just so that certain designs are less likely to print.

Overall, it probably evens out at the end.

I vote for designs all the time that I wouldn't actually buy. But those are designs that don't have a shot at being printed in the first place. Somebody who takes the time, and does a good design deserves a vote to let them know at least someone is paying attention.

I reserve my votes in the top 10 to only those shirts I would actually purchase. But outside of that rule, I vote very liberally. There are tons of people (myself included) who don't have a realistic shot at ever winning a derby, but enter every week for the enjoyment of it. I don't see anything wrong with throwing around my vote, and giving a few people some encouragement.

HannaDisaster wrote:keep up the good works perryn

Thanks.

Re: Tree of Knowledge (v2)

Sweet, I'm diggin the red roots this time around.

Re: Natural Patterns version 2 on cranberry

I think this is my favorite design you've ever done! I sort of liked the white version best, but this is still fantastic. Great job. +1

Re: Impending Doom

First shirt I've seen in months I would actually buy. I LOVE the faces.

Re: Jack and the Beans Talk.

Take out the speech bubbles, and I'll vote for this. I don't think they really help make the point, and they distract from the illustration.

striker138 wrote:I vote for designs all the time that I wouldn't actually buy. But those are designs that don't have a shot at being printed in the first place. Somebody who takes the time, and does a good design deserves a vote to let them know at least someone is paying attention.

I guess I feel that a taking the time to drop a line and comment works just as effectively for the purposes of acknowledgment and support. I still only vote for the ones I absolutely think I would buy, and because of that I usually only end up voting for about maybe 1 to 5 designs for each derby.

I guess I feel using my votes like that is the way to go for me, because I know it irks me to see a design with like 300 votes but only a handful of comments. It just doesn't make sense.

BootsBoots wrote:It's like a Rorschach test.

does anyone else think of Watchmen or is that just me.

binkdrop wrote:I checked out your website and you have quite a lot of unique work up. To me it sort of skims the "anime" genre, just because of the look of the people and their facial proportions, but it also has a very non-anime look to it as well sometimes from the body proportions. It's a neat mix of both realistic and exaggerated. I think a lot of people on this site will start to like your work more, the more you submit it.

If I could make a suggestion about how you're going about doing your designs at the moment, I noticed that many of your pieces that struck me the most on your website are your simple black and white designs(whether they're just pencil drawings or inked). Although I'm not the biggest fan of anime proportions or faces, this image really stood out to me because that foreshortening is just great! That kind of stuff is so hard to learn to draw just because of perspective issues, and foreshortening makes for a great skill to use on t-shirts because it's an attention grabber.

Anyways, since woot limits color choices to 6 plus a shirt color, sometimes it's difficult to choose colors which effectively convey the mood of an image. In your case, I think your color choices sometimes cause your pictures to look slightly more cartoony than elegant. Submitting just a really detailed and nicely inked design in only one or two colors I think would really make your pieces stand out for their artistic merit. You might also consider adding some abstract background to some of your pieces, or enlarging the design on the shirt to fill more space.This image of yours is so neat as far as posing goes, and although it's quite anime-ish, I'm sure that many people would love to see intriguing characters and poses like this on a shirt.

I am not trying to sound overly critical, and sometimes it's hard to convey sincerity in text, but I really am trying to help, and encourage you to keep at these derbies and just try new things. Your lines are your strong suit - you have some really wonderful characters, and you ink and shade with one color extremely well, and that's what I think really makes your designs shine. In my opinion, it's your color choices (probably because of the 6 color, no gradient limits) that is stifling your pictures.

Anyways I'm sorry for the long winded post.
: )

AWW everything you said is awesome! it is the color limits that I have issues with, I think your idea of one or 2 colors is an awesome idea!!! I will try that next time. It's a learning experience!

Re: Seeds of New Life

Awesome colors! I VOTED :D

HalfWheat wrote:It might have been a compliment. It depends on how much that person likes Tinkerbell, I guess.

Yeah I shouldn't jump to conclusions. It felt like they wanted to take it down or reject it but I could just be worried!! :P

cmdixon2 wrote:I think this is my favorite design you've ever done! I sort of liked the white version best, but this is still fantastic. Great job. +1

Thanks! I personally prefer the cream or while over this one, the colors on on the white seem more appealing to me but that's just my preference. Thanks for your vote and support

jewelwing wrote:I have to go find your 1st version because right away I thought, oh what a beautiful color scheme, and then I thought of vintage fabric, and well, all kinds of not very manly thoughts. So I'm really curious to see how girly it was before. Anyhow, love this one. Seems perfect.

Glad you like it jewelwing. Since it was requested by both you and binkdrop, this is the yellow version: