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mrwednesday wrote:Please do. I love seeing you not print.

let's try and be harmonious people! It's what the Japanese would want in respect to this japanese derby.

和

Geisha Snake Tattoo

sei wrote:i've tried it all different ways, I'm guess I'm doomed to have no permanent signature...

Geisha Snake Tattoo

Someone's probably going to yell at you for posting your art in their thread. Signatures are fine, but people get a little miffed if you have the art/link right in the comments. As for creating the signatures, I don't use one here, so I'm not going to be able to be helpful about getting it done. But someone else might be able to explain it.

You might also want to prepare yourself for rejection based on the fact that this is pretty similar to a design that won in the Tattoo derby. Might not, but it's possible, so don't be heartbroken if it happens.

Re: Geisha Snake Tattoo

Very cool illustration, and I love it on black!

Re: Sushi To Go

Cute little running sushi fish=)

SkekTek wrote:Oh, c'mon. This entry was inevitable. My only concern is whether this has been done before. In case you're curious, the hand and sticks were from tracing my own hand...

It's funny. And it think it would work even without the hand. Or with several different running sushis.

I think we all needed a laugh.

(Run little sushi, run!!!)

Oh gah...now I'm getting a song in my head. Wake up little sushi, wake up...

mrwednesday wrote:Please do. I love seeing you not print.

edit:

With 4 of you last 5 chibi designs (japanese things/blue screen of death/giant leap for cowkind/interplanetary bunnies) not printing I'd say you've been failing pretty miserably compared to last year on that front. You didn't HM any of them so clearly woot doesn't want to see them again and have you printed anywhere else yet have you? Having trouble meeting quality standards? You can pretend you are printing as much as you used to but everyone knows you aren't.

It seems that we have reached a point where we can all be happy: I can submit anything I want without your complaining, because you don't think it's going to win anyway. Win-win, right?

sei wrote:let's try and be harmonious people! It's what the Japanese would want in respect to this japanese derby.

和

If we were doing things the Japanese way ramy would have committed sepukku long ago out of shame.

HalfWheat wrote:Someone's probably going to yell at you for posting your art in their thread. Signatures are fine, but people get a little miffed if you have the art/link right in the comments. As for creating the signatures, I don't use one here, so I'm not going to be able to be helpful about getting it done. But someone else might be able to explain it.

You might also want to prepare yourself for rejection based on the fact that this is pretty similar to a design that won in the Tattoo derby. Might not, but it's possible, so don't be heartbroken if it happens.

thanks for the all the info! didn't know there was a tattoo derby so thanks for warning me...

ramyb wrote:It seems that we have reached a point where we can all be happy: I can submit anything I want without your complaining, because you don't think it's going to win anyway. Win-win, right?

You could always submit anything you wanted there's nothing to stop you other than reduced voter turn out (which largely has, not your phony dedication to trying new things). And when you submit poorly executed, rehashed designs, I'm going to tell you about it because there's nothing to stop me. We all know there's only five things you can draw:

1. cute shiny animals
2. shiny swirlies
3. haltone swirlies
4. open books with stuff coming out of them (though you've never even come close to anything as good as Fiction vs. Nonfiction)
5. Shiny robots that may or may not have been copied from popular movies (and are constantly overshadowed by how much better rglee's are)

Face facts here. You're going to keep shelling out the same old stuff until people are tired of it then you rotate in hopes that it's been long enough for it to seem fresh and new again.

sei wrote:thanks for the all the info! didn't know there was a tattoo derby so thanks for warning me...

It's not close like anyone would think you copied, but the idea is pretty similar, and you never know what Woot will do.

http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=9438

walmazan wrote:Nice textures! I like it!

Thanks!! this is my first t-shirt design I've ever made and its good to hear compliments.

mrwednesday wrote:You could always submit anything you wanted there's nothing to stop you other than reduced voter turn out (which largely has, not your phony dedication to trying new things). And when you submit poorly executed, rehashed designs, I'm going to tell you about it because there's nothing to stop me. We all know there's only five things you can draw:

1. cute shiny animals
2. shiny swirlies
3. haltone swirlies
4. open books with stuff coming out of them (though you've never even come close to anything as good as Fiction vs. Nonfiction)
5. Shiny robots that may or may not have been copied from popular movies (and are constantly overshadowed by how much better rglee's are)

Face facts here. You're going to keep shelling out the same old stuff until people are tired of it then you rotate in hopes that it's been long enough for it to seem fresh and new again.

So what you're saying is that I've been trying new things, but have been getting nothing but complaints about how I never do anything new? It's truly amazing the way things work. And for the record, which of those five things is this entry?

ramyb wrote:So what you're saying is that I've been trying new things, but have been getting nothing but complaints about how I never do anything new? It's truly amazing the way things work. And for the record, which of those five things is this entry?

None of those are new things you're just focusing particular entries on aspects you were using already. Taking swirlies that were shiny and making them out of halftones instead isn't doing anything new when you were already halftoning the Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966) out of your shiny entries. And the books and robots you lifted from much more talented artists.

This entry would fall under the shiny swirlies. You toned it down in the black and added a generic figure so as to not catch flack for rehashing your dragon design from the two derby and took away the shine completely in this one for the people that still thought it was too close.

Re: Shouri

Frankly, I don't think that the shirt was similar enough to warrant rejection if you go by how woot usually operates, but at the same time I'm happy the rejection was made. I have no problem with woot getting stricter on the "similar shirts" rule, and I hope they continue to amp it up.

All that being said, while I wouldn't have bought this design (lack of funds coupled with too many shirts) I would've been more than happy to have ended up with in randoms. I just think that the diversity of prints is more important than having every single shirt be something I'd wear.

Good luck next round, kdeuce (incidentally, I have your other samurai shirt--really like the comic book feel of that one).

tgentry wrote:To be fair to woot, they have to go by the image being presented. They get hundreds of entries a week, they can't really be expected to go through each thread and make sure there isn't additional info that's not in the comp. Some kind of zoom-in in the comp would have probably solved that. Also, I think those halftones would qualify as too small, but that's just a guess.

except for this derby where they have to scour the boards to see if the japanese text really says what it says, so they would have been scouring anyway. but like you said, the halftones are probably too small anyway.

Thanks to everyone who has voted and commented!

abelleauc wrote:Could you provide a larger view of the entire shirt? This is a great idea and nifty execution - at least, I think it's nifty, but it's hard to see as is.

Abelleauc, I'm happy to oblige. I hope you think it's as nifty as you imagined.

Re: The Happy Samurai

haha! perfect cut...e! I like it

HalfWheat wrote:It's funny. And it think it would work even without the hand. Or with several different running sushis.

I think we all needed a laugh.

(Run little sushi, run!!!)

Oh gah...now I'm getting a song in my head. Wake up little sushi, wake up...

To be honest, this is all that is left from an original Seuss concept. I was going to draw one red fish, then two blue fish, then sushi with red in them, and sushi with blue fish, but the fish in the blue was running away. Got to be too much work, so I just did this.

IndependentVik wrote:Frankly, I don't think that the shirt was similar enough to warrant rejection if you go by how woot usually operates, but at the same time I'm happy the rejection was made. I have no problem with woot getting stricter on the "similar shirts" rule, and I hope they continue to amp it up.

Agreed. I think it warranted rejection, personally, but I didn't expect it. If it's a sign that woot is getting more consistent and strict with their rejections, I'm all for it. Consistency is the big thing.

But yeah, I can see why it might be viewed as a stretch, but I'm surprised that anyone would outright say it has no similarity to the "Bushido" shirt. As I said before, they've made (rarely, but still) rejections on even bigger stretches.

kylemittskus wrote:When there is $1,000, potentially much more, on the line with far more appropriate and deserving shirts that are close to the fog...

If you ask me, there isn't enough real debate.

Agreed. It's important to remember that the artists themselves have the most riding on these derbies. It's not just debating over 10$ shirts.

SkekTek wrote:To be honest, this is all that is left from an original Seuss concept. I was going to draw one red fish, then two blue fish, then sushi with red in them, and sushi with blue fish, but the fish in the blue was running away. Got to be too much work, so I just did this.

It works like this, though. Sometimes less is more.

Re: Japanese Fighting Fish

Simply no way for this to not get my vote. +1

I love how the fish armors contrast and the look on their faces... hehe.
Good one, I envy you

woohooo! rock that fog sachmoe! haha! awesome design dude, best of luck!

Re: Dragon Maiden

I would upvote this except for the "dragon" kanji. Being Chinese, I don't find it cool in the slightest. The illustration itself is quite nice, but would you wear it if it said DRAGON in giant letters where it now says 龍? Before using foreign characters as stylistic elements, try replacing them with English in your head and consider if it looks ridiculous or not.

Great design otherwise though.

Re: Japan

Text says: My Name is Japan

lonelypond wrote:love it...especially the flower trail

Just why IS there a trail of flowers, anyway?

jmmbell1987 wrote:Agreed. It's important to remember that the artists themselves have the most riding on these derbies. It's not just debating over 10$ shirts.

That's something I try to keep in mind with my votes. It's not just a $10 tee shirt for me, it's a paycheck to an artist who put time, thought, and effort into a design. And talent.

Migoto wrote:Toshiro Mifune?

Wow you know your Kurosawa!

HalfWheat wrote:It works like this, though. Sometimes less is more.

Yep. I really wish I had thought of this a few days ago.

tgentry wrote:To be fair to woot, they have to go by the image being presented. They get hundreds of entries a week, they can't really be expected to go through each thread and make sure there isn't additional info that's not in the comp. Some kind of zoom-in in the comp would have probably solved that. Also, I think those halftones would qualify as too small, but that's just a guess.

They do get lots of entries, but most of them don't have a consideration that they might get rejected though. It seems to me that if you have something that might get rejected, and it has 300 plus votes, you ought to at least look at the thread before you reject it. The artist might have explained why it shouldn't get rejected, as they did in this case. On the other hand, you are correct that the halftones are really, really very much Ramy-small, so that would have probably gotten rejected anyway.

Re: dragon Kite over Mt. fuji

finally had time to work on it the way I wanted it to look.

What does the Japanese under the fish say? Maybe I'm just having a brain fart....

owlishness wrote:I would upvote this except for the "dragon" kanji. Being Chinese, I don't find it cool in the slightest. The illustration itself is quite nice, but would you wear it if it said DRAGON in giant letters where it now says 龍? Before using foreign characters as stylistic elements, try replacing them with English in your head and consider if it looks ridiculous or not.

Great design otherwise though.

I found your comment very interesting, and can completely see your point here. I wanted to use it as a design element to balance the composition, and I like the way the character itself looks. I suppose that makes me seem ignorant- On the other hand though, based on some shirts I've seen my girlfriend bring home from China, I'd say they like writing random things in English that don't make any sense on shirts in some places. I guess this isn't much different.

And thanks for the compliment, btw

Re: Rising Sun Samurai

Looks awesome on the shirt. GMV.

Re: lotsa pink

Nice job! I'd prefer this to alot of the other shirts on here with characters that probably mean that the wearer likes to scratch their butt or something as opposed to what they say they mean. It's so easy to mess up their written language.

Re: Junk Shirt V2.0

you all know you want some junk in your trunk...

Re: For Honor and Glory

I love the color scheme on this!

AdderXYU wrote:The fact is that the pieces I can think of with a similar style are rarely bestselling pieces, so while I may enjoy the feel, I think changing it for this derby would only be beneficial in hopes of an HM. It'd still be low-scoring. There's no reference!

It's the difficulty with some shirts... I've seen scads that are unique and attractive and yet will never have a market defined well enough to be a sure-fire print anywhere. And I think this is destined to be one of those no matter how you improve it. but yeah, if you do decide to play with it, feel free to PM me if you want an opinion before you resub or do anything else with it.

Just realize that the last shirt here that i've wanted sold 650. I know taste, but I cannot grasp votes and buys. That's clearly for people who love the same old thing.

Yeah, that's what I figured, which is why I was questioning the point of resubmitting. Anyways, I had fun drawing it, and I'm satisfied with it, so really, I'm happy with the submission, even if it only garnered 20 something votes.

I think the difficulty in designing is creating something that people will like, without sacrificing the design aspect of it... I got lucky with "Class Time" but I obviously still need more learning to do, which is why I'm here. haha