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Re: No One's Friend

Hahaha... I picture the corn talking all proper when it says "You are not nutritious"

kender42 wrote:Agreed, they need to let you know the full reason.

**edit**

I looked at the poster for the Trick r Treat movie and I am almost willing to bet that is the reason.

Yeah that's gotta be the reason. It's really close.
But that's a little silly. This seems more like a coincidence than a blatant copyright infringement.
Every creepy looking voodoo doll wielding a knife with a pumpkin in the picture is an infringement in that case.

Re: The Ghastly Patient

Great grunge effect! Definitely a nice design.

Re: Happy Trails

I have to agree with some of the other comments, the cat feels a little out of place. A re-sub without the cat and a centered design would be perfect.

Re: Trick or Treat Terror

It's amazing that this design has more votes than the resub.

Re: the Cryptid Crew in "Who GHOST there?"

I'm not sure I get the reference if there is one, but I love the characters! The design looks awesome on the shirt.

Re: I Like Candy

What the? That cut off rejection is just baffling. Did the rejectionator say Candlejack or someth

Re: Bite ME

I know he's supposed to be mean, but for some reason I can't stop laughing at his expression. Maybe its because he's a candy corn... anyways, GMV!

Re: but srsly it's mai pumpkin

This still hasn't been rejected yet?

Re: Trick or Mucha

Good colourwork. GMV

Drakxxx wrote:Wow, you know guys, I'd be more than willing to resubmit if I know what the exact reason I was rejected for. As others have noticed, the reason seems to be cut a bit short.

Anyways, if the character is to similar to the Trick r Treat character, I'll change him around.
But if the reason is more along the lines of what Mr. Gentry mentioned as a possible composition issue, well I'd need to know that as well.

This combined with the submission issues myself and many of the other artists had yesterday has certainly threw a wrench in my Halloween fun here at woot, but as I said, I'd be totally willing to resubmit this design, as it seems to be the only real chance I had at giving you guys a Halloween design this week.

So please woot, do me a favor, and let me know why you rejected me, so I can resubmit.This is the HALLOWEEN derby I've been waiting for, and I have no intentions of calling it a total loss yet.

give it cat ears, color it orange, and put a background you used before and resubmit.

Re: The Great Pumpkin Witch

Are those bats smiling because they're seeing a full moon?

Re: I Like Candy

I demand the Woot kitties answer why this was rejected! It is a fine piece of art and makes great use of the subject matter. I really like the way it is drawn as if a colored pencil technique was used. Just cause those kitties at the Woot do not have an appreciation for fine work the least they can do is give plausible reason for rejection, but what would you expect from a bunch of kitties anyways!

toby8915 wrote:cool.

Your sig almost caused me to smack my monitor at work!

odysseyroc wrote:Wow, another great drawing. I'm fully expecting to see you win one of these derbies really soon.

Ahhh man...I tell you, it seems like winning the lotto is more likely. These things are just so tough and even more draining. But, all I can do is try. I'm glad you like the dogcatcher pic, thank you!

Re: The Ghastly Patient

Was this on DBH too?

Re: Trick or Mucha

Thanks! This is a tribute to Alphonse Mucha, one of my favorite artists in the spirit of his illustrations of the seasons.

Re: I Like Candy

I should have known better to get my hopes up when I saw the announcement of the Halloween derby. From that point on, this whole derby has been a huge disappointment.

From the completely unfair start, allowing a favored few to gain a several hour head start on the voting, to this point of my favorite artist getting arbitrarily shafted while other crapola is allowed to stay.

shoulda known better.

Re: I Like Candy

oh- and I'll add it seems obvious that woot doesn't like Drakxxx's stuff. From the Steampunk Derby debacle, to turning down a great seasonal daily he offered with "Requim of the Soul Stealer" design, to this design getting rejected out of nowhere, with no explanation why, and without giving the artist a chance to know what to fix.

just a lot of stuff like this happens to Drakxxx. No wonder a lot of the good artists leave here after a while...

Re: The Pumpkin Witch

video was fantastic. I'm in total awe.

HalfWheat wrote:Based on previous entries, I'm betting the submitter isn't related to that website.

Yes I drew that
Its the first entry i didnt opy off of someone

Re: His boo is worse than his bite

I enjoy this

Re: Go Out Prepared!

I like it when you draw cartoons everyonce in awhile.

Re: Zombie Candycorn

please knock out tiger pumpkin
please knock out tiger pumpkin

bethlehemstarr wrote: It is, in my estimation, the most original design in the derby.

Agreed. I like how you put a twist on the whole Halloween thing and came up with an original idea rather than the normal trick-or-treating stuff. Great shirt. I'd love to own one.

Jestik wrote:I should have known better to get my hopes up when I saw the announcement of the Halloween derby. From that point on, this whole derby has been a huge disappointment.

From the completely unfair start, allowing a favored few to gain a several hour head start on the voting, to this point of my favorite artist getting arbitrarily shafted while other crapola is allowed to stay.

shoulda known better.

Everything you said. I don't post a lot here, but I do follow the derbies and the comments pretty faithfully, and I'm extremely disappointed at the turn this derby has taken. Surprised--not really, but disappointed nonetheless.

Re: No More Mr. Nice Guy!

I disagree with the text completely overpowering the design, as while it works as a design element, I don't think it has to be read at all for the shirt's message/joke to come across.

IMHO, anyone who's read enough vintage comics has seen the old 'Charles Atlas' type ads hundreds of times, and will grasp and appreciate the parody almost immediately from the pictures alone.

Drakxxx wrote:Wow, you know guys, I'd be more than willing to resubmit if I know what the exact reason I was rejected for. As others have noticed, the reason seems to be cut a bit short.

Anyways, if the character is to similar to the Trick r Treat character, I'll change him around.
But if the reason is more along the lines of what Mr. Gentry mentioned as a possible composition issue, well I'd need to know that as well.

This combined with the submission issues myself and many of the other artists had yesterday has certainly threw a wrench in my Halloween fun here at woot, but as I said, I'd be totally willing to resubmit this design, as it seems to be the only real chance I had at giving you guys a Halloween design this week.

So please woot, do me a favor, and let me know why you rejected me, so I can resubmit.This is the HALLOWEEN derby I've been waiting for, and I have no intentions of calling it a total loss yet.

i am thoroughly pissed off about this rejection. first that god-awful kitten shirt comes in and knocks one of youre prints out of the fog, then woot rejects the other one! what the hell is going on?

ive been told that in order to reject an entry out of the fog, woot has to have a meeting and decide. given that they were already meeting so they could reject this shirt and give you the slip with the explanation, WHY DIDNT THEY ALSO REJECT THAT STUPID KITTEN ENTRY?? why do we have to sit and watch stupid scaffolding move up while your entries move down or get rejected? i regret i only have one vote to give you, drakxxx. i feel like woot is deliberately trying to screw you over in this, and i wish there was something i could do about it...

Jestik wrote:I should have known better to get my hopes up when I saw the announcement of the Halloween derby. From that point on, this whole derby has been a huge disappointment.

From the completely unfair start, allowing a favored few to gain a several hour head start on the voting, to this point of my favorite artist getting arbitrarily shafted while other crapola is allowed to stay.

shoulda known better.

I appreciate all your support guys. I emailed Barbara at woot and asked her if she could tell me what exactly I got rejected for so I can make changes and resubmit.

Regardless if or when I hear back from her, I'm going to assume it's the character's likeness to an existing one, and change that around. I'll be resubmitting this evening for sure.

Re: Were-Pumpkin

I had to look at this one a couple times to get, but when I did I loved it! GMV

Re: but srsly it's mai pumpkin

Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe she just likes drawing cats in pumpkins and she thought maybe she'd put it up and see how much other people like it?

Honestly what you think of the artist as a person doesn't matter. If you have a problem with the artist, tell woot and let them handle it as they see fit, vote for another shirt, don't buy the shirt, etc. If people like the cat, and they want to wear it, what's the problem?! THREE SHIRTS will be printed. It's not like if you want one it has to be the cat.

HalfWheat wrote:Obviously, the candle is producing negative light. In some alternate universe.

I don't hate this design, but the logic of the resub is baffling. However, I'd laugh my ass off if the reason for rejection is "srsly?"

i think all of seki's "lights" produce some negative/thrown off lighting. i dont think any of her images have ever shown lighting properly (last derby entry and this as well now, just to show her latest two)

and if her first image was rejected, this should too. regardless of copyright, regardless of commonality. whatever Woot's reason was for rejecting the first one should be the same for rejecting this one. if all that has changed is the color of the cat, then it is the same exact image.

HalfWheat wrote:I think dragons are things that you either like or dislike, and there's no getting around it. Personally, I like dragons, and I've got quite a few around. A shirt with a dragon is going to get a second look from me, just because it is a dragon, but it's not an automatic vote/buy because at this point I'm looking for more unique items instead of "oooh, dragon...must add to collection."

But overall, I think there's that sort of reaction with pretty much every critter you can think of.

Oh thanks, that makes perfect sense, I've also noticed people commenting about shirt colors in the same vein. =D

gumberculees wrote:i am thoroughly pissed off about this rejection. first that god-awful kitten shirt comes in and knocks one of youre prints out of the fog, then woot rejects the other one! what the hell is going on?

ive been told that in order to reject an entry out of the fog, woot has to have a meeting and decide. given that they were already meeting so they could reject this shirt and give you the slip with the explanation, WHY DIDNT THEY ALSO REJECT THAT STUPID KITTEN ENTRY?? why do we have to sit and watch stupid scaffolding move up while your entries move down or get rejected? i regret i only have one vote to give you, drakxxx. i feel like woot is deliberately trying to screw you over in this, and i wish there was something i could do about it...

I just want to echo everyone else's disappointment with how this derby is going and how Woot is handling it. How Woot can reject this entry and not reject the orange kitten after they already rejected the purple kitten is mindboggling. And then to reject this with absolutely no reason given, is unfair on Woot's part. I can only hope that my other favorite Drakxxx submission of this derby, requiem of a soul stealer, somehow makes it into the fog.

I'd like to end this on a positive note, and say thank you Drakxxx for submitting such awesome designs.

Drakxxx wrote:I appreciate all your support guys. I emailed Barbara at woot and asked her if she could tell me what exactly I got rejected for so I can make changes and resubmit.

Regardless if or when I hear back from her, I'm going to assume it's the character's likeness to an existing one, and change that around. I'll be resubmitting this evening for sure.

If I had to bet, I'd say that's it. I suspect the voters will respond well to whatever changes you make.

Best shirt ever!!!

PhilSandifer wrote:
But the shirts I cited do have characteristics in common with Drakxxx's work - grotesque expressions, a baroque composition that emphasizes the whole rather than a single point of focus, dark themes, and a high level of detail. And, more broadly, a focus on atmosphere rather than a single clear concept.

This last point is where I get frustrated with Drakxxx - because he's better when he's doing something like I Like Candy, which has a clear concept - than something like Creeping Darkness, which is a dreadfully generic shirt with a pumpkin slapped on it. And it's why I think that Drakxxx's single best design remains his criminally undervoted entry for Music: http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=29612

As I cited elsewhere, those characteristics are too superficial to really merit comparison. Not all horror films are alike, even within the same subgenres (like the original Halloween vs. almost every other "slasher" film) And again, I can't fathom your use of the word "generic" here. Drak's work isn't generic in the context of "goth" horror stuff. It's far too visually creative.

PhilSandifer wrote:I suppose I just don't see the various shades of menacing creepy monsters as all that different from Ramy switching a bunny for a cat. I mean, on its own merits, I Like Candy is Drakxxx's strongest design in the derby, and deserves a print. But I'm frustrated that Drakxxx opted to water it down with two shirts that cover very similar territory.

It's hella different. Why? For one, Drak is reallt good at drawing, and infuses each piece with its own sense of style. Yes, his general style is recognizable (Gothic horror), but he doesn't recycle designs and characters. Each piece of his is wonderfully detailed and beautifully drawn in its own way. Ramy/Ski pieces have none of that. Additionally, he doesn't pay lip service to the theme each week. Yes, he tailors the theme to his own style. But his pieces are always constructed around the theme and true to it. Ramy and Seki routinely recycle the same, stale designs and only loosely tie to the theme (which I don't accuse them of doing this week).

And I Like Candy is not superior simple because it's "different" for Drakxxx. I think it's his weakest piece in the derby.

edit: hm, I thought we were referring to "Go Out Prepared".

LKTANG107 wrote:haha agreed.

MOAR VOTES!

Re: Candy Corn!

Just because its an exclamation point doesn't mean its a Woot reference. I know that no one knows that it wasn't my intent to resemble woot, but it still stinks to get rejected. At least i wasn't in the running.

DaBomber233 wrote:Yes I drew that
Its the first entry i didnt opy off of someone

Unfortunately, those previous submissions have gained you a reputation. You're going to need to prove to Woot that the site that art came from actually belongs to you and that you drew the picture in question. They might not un-reject it for this derby, but they might ask first before they reject next time. Otherwise, they're going to continue to be skeptical of everything you submit.