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Re: The unified cat-pumpkin theory

So while some people believe the conundrum is removing the kitten from the pumpkin, we can see proof-positive that if we put the cat in the pumpkin in a box, the cat is both in and out of the pumpkin, while the pumpkin is both carved and uncarved.

Re: Watch for cheetahs this halloween!

I like the not-so-subtle commentary in the title

AdderXYU wrote:This all said, having not read any Rand because of all the reasons you've said above being well known to all people who have even dabbled in college level literature, I get this sneaking suspicion that ol' Ayn wouldn't be all that enthused about people using art to manipulate the masses for money, as opposed to using art to speak to the masses from your heart... convoluted, thick-volumed, and idiotic as it might be

And would probably never use "It's popular" as an excuse why something's good. Patriarchy is popular, too ;)

*** Ayn Rand was really quite brilliant. And I disagree with pretty much *every* thought she ever had (McCarthy would have had a field day with me:-) ). Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead are "over loved" though. They aren't *that* good. However, if one wanted to get a quick overview of her philosophies, I recommend reading Anthem. It's a super-quick read- it's around 80 pages.
Her book 'We the Living' is semi-autobiographical and actually is very good. I recommend that one highly.
And, from a pure physics perspective- I'm pretty sure that either Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead would make excellent paperweights. ****

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AdderXYU wrote:This all said, having not read any Rand because of all the reasons you've said above being well known to all people who have even dabbled in college level literature, I get this sneaking suspicion that ol' Ayn wouldn't be all that enthused about people using art to manipulate the masses for money, as opposed to using art to speak to the masses from your heart... convoluted, thick-volumed, and idiotic as it might be

And would probably never use "It's popular" as an excuse why something's good. Patriarchy is popular, too ;)

well its hard to say actually. the ideology behind the fountainhead was that everything should have a purpose and things should be done to best suit that purpose, to hell with convention. that opinion seems to be pretty ignorant of art, which seems to have no purpose. then again, there was also a sculptor involved, and its been so damn long since ive read that book...

atlas shrugged was more centered around the crime of letting talented people be oppressed by those untalented, so i guess she would have something to say about this. that is when she wasnt being banged by some guy married to someone else while damning communism

Re: but srsly it's mai pumpkin

A heart after gold
And it lost it's pride
Beautiful veins
And bloodshot eyes
I see your face
In another light
I wish you'd go
And let it die

Ok, maybe they didn't sing it this way but it is darn close.

Re: blood oranges

i was thinking you should have had them drinking orange juice.

KessiTheNinja wrote:I'm kinda lost....

farrah fawcett

AdderXYU wrote:So while some people believe the conundrum is removing the kitten from the pumpkin, we can see proof-positive that if we put the cat in the pumpkin in a box, the cat is both in and out of the pumpkin, while the pumpkin is both carved and uncarved.

You sir are a true scholar of the kipumpkindrome.

bethlehemstarr wrote:*** Ayn Rand was really quite brilliant. And I disagree with pretty much *every* thought she ever had (McCarthy would have had a field day with me:-) ). Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead are "over loved" though. They aren't *that* good. However, if one wanted to get a quick overview of her philosophies, I recommend reading Anthem. It's a super-quick read- it's around 80 pages.
Her book 'We the Living' is semi-autobiographical and actually is very good. I recommend that one highly.
And, from a pure physics perspective- I'm pretty sure that either Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead would make excellent paperweights. ****

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i disagree. i think her philosophies existed in direct reaction to the communism she grew up in. i think they are very impractical and serve more of a self-satisfaction than an actual, practical use. i absolutely hated we the living. if i had to pick, i would say the fountainhead was the best of all the garbage she's written. and i disagree about the paperweight statement too. that cheap paper theyre printed in is not very dense. the covers too are often slick. in a mild wind, the book would go flying, probably propelled by the paper under it.

Lacyhammons wrote:If they died in 1982, why are their clothes so old fashioned? Was it supposed to be 1892?

They died in prom.

Re: Feed Your Inner Demon

I really wish this was doing better, it is such a good design :/

sittle wrote:No I opened my mouth over in that discussion and I have the whole Angry Adder Alliance going wild all over me

This "angry adder alliance" stuff is really insipid.

Bass-

I won't lie, if you hadn't said otherwise I would've taken it for a parody of overly cute designs. I'm actually a little sad that it's not, as it's not a bad work of parody. I suspect that it's actually drawing votes from both voters who like the cute aspect, and people who are weary of cutesy designs.

AdderXYU wrote:So while some people believe the conundrum is removing the kitten from the pumpkin, we can see proof-positive that if we put the cat in the pumpkin in a box, the cat is both in and out of the pumpkin, while the pumpkin is both carved and uncarved.

Wow, of all the things to come out of this pumpkin fiasco, a discussion that ventured into quantum physics was the most unexpected. Well played

gumberculees wrote:i disagree. i think her philosophies existed in direct reaction to the communism she grew up in. i think they are very impractical and serve more of a self-satisfaction than an actual, practical use. i absolutely hated we the living. if i had to pick, i would say the fountainhead was the best of all the garbage she's written. and i disagree about the paperweight statement too. that cheap paper theyre printed in is not very dense. the covers too are often slick. in a mild wind, the book would go flying, probably propelled by the paper under it.

I appreciate your response. I understand where you are coming from, and why you hold your opinions, though I disagree.
She does tend to write her books with a 'know-it-all' attitude, which is grating. That's why I always recommend Anthem. That way, you've fulfilled that requirement to read an Ayn Rand book, thus allowing you to get allusions to her works- and haven't had to endure the grueling pain of 1000 pages of Ayn Randiness.
I think you do have a valid point about the paperweight response. On their own, they would not stand as good paperweights. They would need to be duct-taped, or something similar, and as such, should be rejected from consideration.

AdderXYU wrote:So while some people believe the conundrum is removing the kitten from the pumpkin, we can see proof-positive that if we put the cat in the pumpkin in a box, the cat is both in and out of the pumpkin, while the pumpkin is both carved and uncarved.

Hahahaaa

thestone wrote:

I see what you did there.

I think most folks would agree this is the best example of infringement (more so than the concept). So it should be rejected. period. Not sure why nobody else said so.

bethlehemstarr wrote:I appreciate your response. I understand where you are coming from, and why you hold your opinions, though I disagree.
She does tend to write her books with a 'know-it-all' attitude, which is grating. That's why I always recommend Anthem. That way, you've fulfilled that requirement to read an Ayn Rand book, thus allowing you to get allusions to her works- and haven't had to endure the grueling pain of 1000 pages of Ayn Randiness.
I think you do have a valid point about the paperweight response. On their own, they would not stand as good paperweights. They would need to be duct-taped, or something similar, and as such, should be rejected from consideration.

boys and girls (or possibly just two of one gender), I think we should all hug it out and find something we can agree on.

Sylvia Plath is a hackjob? I say ACH, DU!

bryozoan wrote:[quote postid="3513546" user="linkszelda"]
... so that's why these shirts do so well? because Adder hates them? ...[ /quote]

Part of this is that he has almost single handedly scared off some of the best artists to ever be in these derbies, via his usually ignorant rants.

I'm curious which artists you're talking about here. Probably the biggest names to leave were Cho (he does pop in occasionally, but nowhere nearly as frequently as he used to) and Jimiyo. Adder has a certain amount of respect for both of them--he didn't chase those two off.

I'll admit that I don't know everything about the history of the community, so I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know who you mean.

AdderXYU wrote:I like the not-so-subtle commentary in the title

I like that how even though this is a joke, he still cared enough to make the pumpkin top look like it would actually fit.

IndependentVik wrote:I'm curious which artists you're talking about here. Probably the biggest names to leave were Cho (he does pop in occasionally, but nowhere nearly as frequently as he used to) and Jimiyo. Adder has a certain amount of respect for both of them--he didn't chase those two off.

I'll admit that I don't know everything about the history of the community, so I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know who you mean.

I'd like to know that too. I can only think of one person I can hypothetically have been thought to have scared off, and I think that was their own fault and very deserved.

As for just about every other solid designer who has left? Let's just say I have conversed socially with a good number of them. Though I think Jimiyo isn't a huge fan of me lately because I give him scaffolding for his Starwarsization of Teefury. But yeah, he left here long before that anyway.

AdderXYU wrote:boys and girls (or possibly just two of one gender), I think we should all hug it out and find something we can agree on.

Sylvia Plath is a hackjob? I say ACH, DU!

Lol :-)
I was not in the least upset. In fact, I'm always a little happy to find someone who (a) has read Ayn Rand, (b) understands Ayn Rand (c) doesn't like Ayn Rand (d) admits all of the above.
Normally, you just find people who (a) have not read Ayn Rand or (b) read Ayn Rand in college and act all pretentious about it, while completely not understanding anything that they're saying, instead just parroting some English professor that they never really listened too.

I'm a book nerd, and am always happy to find others - even if I disagree with everything they say. :-)

**** Really sorry to be hijacking shirt thread to discuss Ayn Rand. Forgive me?

Re: The unified cat-pumpkin theory

I can't really think of anything better to say: Adder summed it up perfectly. We just need to remember ourselves to include a booby trap that will, should anyone attempt to open the box, disintegrate everything within it, making any observation impossible.
Was it carved? Was it not? Did it have a kitten inside?
Nobody can really say.

marzipanapple wrote:Haha, exactly what I imagine certain people's cutsey designs saying..

Those ribs look awesome (the depth of the entire piece is perfect). I like that the cat looks so naive.

Heh heh!

I've had this huge giant heavy anatomy book for many many years and working on this shirt was the first time I actually used it.

LOL, that makes it seem like I never study my anatomy, which isn't true I swear! =D

Re: Zombie Candycorn

On a more relevant note... is this on black or navy?

Re: pumpkin Tee shirt

at least it's less then 6 colors...

sittle wrote:You forgot about the idiots who think it's their job to monitor designs for quality, and keep drumming up support for the Drakxxx fan club...

It's quite clear to everyone what your motives are and where you votes lie..

You linked a jpeg that called the reader a feminine hygiene product as a response to an argument. Don't act like you're superior to anyone else.

Re: Cute Cemetery

Is that BootsBoots in the cat suit, Drakxx as Dracula, and you in a skeleton suit fighting the undead anime army of Ramyb and Seki?

Re: I'm in ur kitteh.

I like the design. Only bone i'm pickin with you is that you didnt give credit anywhere thru this thread to kender42 for the inspiration (if that comment did inspire you as I suspect it did).

On 10/17 kender42 said in seki's "but srsly it's mai pumpkin" thread: "Just put a pumpkin crawling out of a kittens head."

Since you posted this design 2 day later, it leaves me wondering, did that comment inspire your design, and if so, why no love for kender42?

If it did inspire yur design, not making any note of it is bad form in my eyes. I apolgize in advance if you did credit kender42 somewhere else, but even if you did, it would make sense to do it here too. Just my nickel's worth.

Re: I Like Candy (Resub)

Never give up and never surrender! Keep fighting the good fight, Drakxxx.

Re: The Intellectual Zombie

Hahaha, I see what you did there. Very funny;)

Re: Oriental Halloween (Shaolin monk v2)

I wish he wasn't a vampire, but I absolutely love the rest.

Re: The unified cat-pumpkin theory

Ha!

jmmbell1987 wrote:Bass-

I won't lie, if you hadn't said otherwise I would've taken it for a parody of overly cute designs. I'm actually a little sad that it's not, as it's not a bad work of parody. I suspect that it's actually drawing votes from both voters who like the cute aspect, and people who are weary of cutesy designs.

I agree with this second part, but ultimately I think this design is both cute and very well executed in terms of color choices and shading, and is being rewarded by the voters accordingly (great job Bass, I think this design really works on a number of levels for me)

BlindShooter wrote:I really wish this was doing better, it is such a good design :/

White shirts seem to do poorly in the derby (unless they're designed by someone like Edgar, whose style isn't for me anyway). I have seen and heard comments from other wooters that the white shirts woot uses are fairly thin and nearly see-through.

A darker shirt with these red colors, or maybe a design using the original colors would have made it a little better for me, personally, but I admit a bias towards dark and/or blue colors.

It's also a lot of ink on the shirt, which some people are picky about. A dark colored shirt would "breathe" a little bit better, as some people put it.

The little swirl on the boy's ankle is awesome though.

Re: Cute Cemetery

I would buy and wear this. And not just because of...well...you know. I actually like the design.

themaverick wrote:I like the design. Only bone i'm pickin with you is that you didnt give credit anywhere thru this thread to kender42 for the inspiration (if that comment did inspire you as I suspect it did).

On 10/17 kender42 said in seki's "but srsly it's mai pumpkin" thread: "Just put a pumpkin crawling out of a kittens head."

That's... that's not a pumpkin... I'm now really worried about what sort of pumpkin pie you're used to on Halloween.

Thanks for all the votes Yeah i know the crunch bar doesn't have stringy stuff, but i liked how the blue looks on the orange it's the only candy bar i could think of with that color.

Re: I'm in ur kitteh.

What I really like about this is that it's super cute, yet it's not straight out of the "how to draw manga" manual. It's well designed,and wonderfully colored.

Bass has some serious skills. Some people can just flat out draw and she is one of them. After seeing your site and the few designs you've submitted, I'm a big fan.

ranusbc wrote:writing an e-mail to howard.roffman@lucasfilm.com president of lucasfilm licensing begging for the rights!

It'll be interesting to see what they want to charge. Let us know.

xxchange wrote:I wish he wasn't a vampire, but I absolutely love the rest.

Exactly what I was going to post. I like all the improvements other than adding the teeth.