Shirt.Woot

HalfWheat wrote:For some reason, it's been so soothing to look at the fog all through this derby and see the thumbnail of this happy pumpkin removing someone's brain.

For reasons I can't entirely explain, that statement made me laugh so hard, that my brain now hurts.

congrats to all the Best Losers and some others i thought maybe should be more considered as well.

HalfWheat wrote:I've never seen Woot give a definitive answer as to what halftones are good and which aren't mostly it's just a rejection that says, "we can't print this."

It might be more than just the size of the halftones, though. Other factors, like whether there's an underlying color or adjacent colors, might be a factor in their decisions. But since they've never spelled it out, pretty much everyone is guessing, and then hoping that their design will actually be okay.

Considering this entry was absent from the latest round of rejection, I assume it is not pushing the limit of Woot technology.

Re: Were-Pumpkin

Damn this needs to get in the fog. I want this one the most followed closely by Drakxxx design.

Re: Bats? In my computer?

I think you should submit this to ThinkGeek as a Halloween special, I think it would do much better there.

AdderXYU wrote:Never reward bad behavior.

I was just browsing the entries, seeing if anything's remotely worth blogging later, and I'm just wondering how an entry entitled "resub - no changes made" is not rejected.

Yes we know Kenney will never print, but seriously, woot, grow a sense of pride in your contest's rules.

Adder, kenny originally posted his entry during the time that no-one else could post; there were ony about 3 entries in the derby- his, ramy's zombie dog, and seki's kitten. One or two others were also there. Kenny was in the fog and had a bunch of votes. He actually posted a couple of entries for other people during the period when we were all really frustrated trying to understand how broken the derby could be. He withdrew his entry at that point, showing his solidarity with everyone who was unable to post, then resubmitted it when there started to be other entries begin to arrive. Sadly, nobody else realized what or why he had done what he had done; only a few people voted for him and he never recouped the lost votes. My recollection is that he had about 75 votes at the time.

choumore wrote:Considering this entry was absent from the latest round of rejection, I assume it is not pushing the limit of Woot technology.

more likely it isn't pushing the limits of being likely to print. They don't have to limit their options in the future by rejecting it for too small halftones, since it doesn't matter in the printing sense of the world.

Josephus wrote:Adder, kenny originally posted his entry during the time that no-one else could post; there were ony about 3 entries in the derby- his, ramy's zombie dog, and seki's kitten. One or two others were also there. Kenny was in the fog and had a bunch of votes. He actually posted a couple of entries for other people during the period when we were all really frustrated trying to understand how broken the derby could be. He withdrew his entry at that point, showing his solidarity with everyone who was unable to post, then resubmitted it when there started to be other entries begin to arrive. Sadly, nobody else realized what or why he had done what he had done; only a few people voted for him and he never recouped the lost votes. My recollection is that he had about 75 votes at the time.

I'm pretty sure woot's write up doesn't say "resubmitted entries will be rejected unless you sub it to prove a point, remove it, and then resub it again, and then only if we know it won't win"

Based on woot's rules, this should be rejected. Unless woot should play favorites like they already do.

I don't care. Kenney is insane and probably scary in real life if he's this dedicated to his pucker idea, but this is more a commentary on how pathetic woot's rejection consistency and legitimacy is.

laurafoy wrote:I think you should submit this to ThinkGeek as a Halloween special, I think it would do much better there.

Too late now, unfortunately. Woot has the rights to it for (I think) 60 days. Or something like that.

Re: dracofrankenectobumblexenomalevoangelicostello

I do believe I am in love.

Unfortunately it won't get to the fog, but I would definitely buy one if it did.

AdderXYU wrote:I'm pretty sure woot's write up doesn't say "resubmitted entries will be rejected unless you sub it to prove a point, remove it, and then resub it again, and then only if we know it won't win"

Based on woot's rules, this should be rejected. Unless woot should play favorites like they already do.

I don't care. Kenney is insane and probably scary in real life if he's this dedicated to his pucker idea, but this is more a commentary on how pathetic woot's rejection consistency and legitimacy is.

Oh, well, I just thought you might want to know that his resub wasn't a typical resub of a grenade in front of an oil well, from a previous derby, x3, that in fact it was a new design created for this derby and submitted without pandering or any ugly motives. It made a difference to me, anyway. He also submitted several of his earlier years' halloween puckers during the no-entry allowed period (for the rest of us) all of which he listed as resubbed unchanged, and then withdrew them after the new submissions started to appear.

AdderXYU wrote:I'm pretty sure woot's write up doesn't say "resubmitted entries will be rejected unless you sub it to prove a point, remove it, and then resub it again, and then only if we know it won't win"

Based on woot's rules, this should be rejected. Unless woot should play favorites like they already do.

I don't care. Kenney is insane and probably scary in real life if he's this dedicated to his pucker idea, but this is more a commentary on how pathetic woot's rejection consistency and legitimacy is.

I don't think I'm understanding this. Is there a rule against pulling and resubmitting an entry? I've seen plenty where an artist has pulled their entry and resubmitted with nothing changed in the design, but maybe the thumbnail is tweaked. Is that grounds for rejection?

sittle wrote: I had already cast a vote in this competition, but I was gonna go with you...

... tip of the cap to you fablefire!

You know you can cast more than one vote, right?

Re: but srsly it's mai pumpkin

I just wanted to make a comment about how much conversation this derby has produced. This derby is at about 3000 comments. The past two were at about 1900 and 1600 comments. I think it is amazing the amount of discussion this single shirt has produced.

I think that Woot has often made the mistake of not participating in these discussions as it would clear up a LOT of things and clam people down. I hope they had make some comment about this shirt soon.

HalfWheat wrote:I don't think I'm understanding this. Is there a rule against pulling and resubmitting an entry? I've seen plenty where an artist has pulled their entry and resubmitted with nothing changed in the design, but maybe the thumbnail is tweaked. Is that grounds for rejection?

Woot has several times rejected designs for being direct resubs, and talked about it at the start of this derby,

Resubmissions from past Halloween Derbies are strongly discouraged, and will be rejected if not substantially altered from the previous submission. We'll be the judges of what "substantially" means, so as always, assume the worst or be disappointed.

AdderXYU wrote:...A lot of stuff...

First, can you let it go already? The artist says she's trying to find out what the crowd likes. At the same time, she's doing what she likes. The two are not mutually exclusive. This is very much in BassAnimation's style and is a unique and interesting image. It's not the cat in a witches hat playing with a pumpkin trying to look as cute as possible. It's a cat with a sawed open head and a monster peeking out from where brains should be, with blood dripping down the head.

You know, you complain that people brush you off, yet the first sentence in each of your posts here was condescending or directly insulting. You come off as a troll who is complaining only to hear your own voice, and you do the classic "Ignore any part of the thread that you can just to complain more".

You want people to listen? Try being nice for once. Please. You can say the same things in a nicer tone and, gasp, people won't just think of you as an unmitigated jackass who would best be ignored.

If you ARE a troll, feel free to keep insulting people, but you can't do that and go "Boo hoo" when people brush you off. These internets have been around a long time now and people can smell your ilk from a ways away.

If you're not a troll, if you're really this socially inept guy and have no idea that what you're saying makes you sound rude, belligerent, and self absorbed, then I am so so sorry for you.

Josephus wrote:

I thought it was a new entry created for this derby that he pulled and resubmitted again. I know he submitted and pulled a bunch of old ones as a test of the system, but I thought this was his intended new submission.

If it was a direct resub from a different derby, then it should have been rejected, for sure.

Re: but srsly it's mai pumpkin

seki should be proud that she can garner so much emotion from ppl on 1 design.

shes the real winner

Re: [url=http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=36292]9 Halloween

This reminds me of the cupcake shirt that printed this week, but I like this one better.

AdderXYU wrote:you tease
you flirt
you shine all the buttons on your brown shirt

You win! That's probably the best costello quote you could do for this...

StevieQ wrote:I do believe I am in love.

Unfortunately it won't get to the fog, but I would definitely buy one if it did.

Thank you!

You all think way too much about this scaffolding. It's just a cute t-shirt design!

Hengehog wrote:I just wanted to make a comment about how much conversation this derby has produced. This derby is at about 3000 comments. The past two were at about 1900 and 1600 comments. I think it is amazing the amount of discussion this single shirt has produced.

I think that Woot has often made the mistake of not participating in these discussions as it would clear up a LOT of things and calm people down. I hope they had make some comment about this shirt soon.

I agree. Its eerily silent.

nobodys said it yet, but solid tunes on the vid too kasey ;)

bryozoan wrote:Can. Choose not to.

If folks can't see how his brand of 100+ derbies of negativity would not only scare off some of his targets, but many new artists, then I am not going to convince them otherwise by digging myself through old derbies to find the single posts by artists on their entries stating they would not be returning.

If you would like to ignore this due to lack of "evidence", then go for it. I think his brand of spewing hatred every single derby stands for itself as an echo of how this community scares off new artists trying to dip their toe in the public waters.

I think I've seen more artists say they were leaving due to unrejected stuff that should have obviously been rejected and other artists not following the rules and winning.

Oh, and because the 'taste' of the shirt.woot voting base always trended toward memes and now is trending toward more juvenile designs.

Re: Trick or... well Trick!

greatest shirt of all time!

xespera wrote:First, can you let it go already? The artist says she's trying to find out what the crowd likes. At the same time, she's doing what she likes. The two are not mutually exclusive. This is very much in BassAnimation's style and is a unique and interesting image. It's not the cat in a witches hat playing with a pumpkin trying to look as cute as possible. It's a cat with a sawed open head and a monster peeking out from where brains should be, with blood dripping down the head.

You know, you complain that people brush you off, yet the first sentence in each of your posts here was condescending or directly insulting. You come off as a troll who is complaining only to hear your own voice, and you do the classic "Ignore any part of the thread that you can just to complain more".

You want people to listen? Try being nice for once. Please. You can say the same things in a nicer tone and, gasp, people won't just think of you as an unmitigated jackass who would best be ignored.

If you ARE a troll, feel free to keep insulting people, but you can't do that and go "Boo hoo" when people brush you off. These internets have been around a long time now and people can smell your ilk from a ways away.

If you're not a troll, if you're really this socially inept guy and have no idea that what you're saying makes you sound rude, belligerent, and self absorbed, then I am so so sorry for you.

+1

MasterWolf wrote:Something's missing, but I can't put my finger on it. There's got to be a way to highlight the third panel more.

I'm thinking a larger moon would be adequate? Maybe even some moon glow around that panel (although that might completely backfire).

I, however, do like the paneling. Gives it a comic book feel.

Re: but srsly it's mai pumpkin

"but srsly..." she's got woot by the gonads and they'll never reject her & ramy if they make woot money. Someone who probably didn't know better made the first rejection, and when she resubmitted, they were all like "no, dude...let it fly this time, that shirt will make us some big bucks"

Or they told her how to fix it, and now refuse to face the angry mob.

I feel like this has a double entendre. "Flavor" of the season meaning her blood, as well as a reference to the many resurfaced obsessions with vampires that have recently ocurred (i.e. True Blood, The Vampire Diaries, & the other annoying and unmentionable book series...) Either way I love the design great work!

Re: Tell-Tale Heart

Dude one of the most baller shirts i've seen. kudos!

HalfWheat wrote:I'm wondering if they chose not to reject it just so it doesn't appear like they're caving in to the mob request.

We'll probably never know why they make any decision, though. They tend not to give a lot of feedback.

Seems valid. It might set a bad precedent to kill a shirt simply due to people demanding it en masse. I know, I know, there are many strong reasons for it to be rejected, but appearances are important too. It looks bad to reject a design at the behest of a mob.

From their perspective (this is really creepy talking about woot in the third person when it's on their own comment thread.....), the people speak with their votes, thus any public outrage should have its impact there. They risk having it look like a "few" (I know there are lots) vocal commentators can override the vote of the entire woot community. And if it doesn't fog, they might be able to get away with silence.

Just a thought.

I also think the blood is a little too much but I like everything else! :D

I don't care for this shirt, however I voted for it just to p1ss AdderXYU off. What a knob.

It's very cute! :3 I like it! <3

lastlaugh wrote:Seems valid. It might set a bad precedent to kill a shirt simply due to people demanding it en masse. I know, I know, there are many strong reasons for it to be rejected, but appearances are important too. It looks bad to reject a design at the behest of a mob.

From their perspective (this is really creepy talking about woot in the third person when it's on their own comment thread.....), the people speak with their votes, thus any public outrage should have its impact there. They risk having it look like a "few" (I know there are lots) vocal commentators can override the vote of the entire woot community. And if it doesn't fog, they might be able to get away with silence.

Just a thought.

except they already rejected this exact same shirt.

Sometimes, angry mobs are drawn for a reason.

Re: I am a Cuddly Parasite (final)

I really really really want to own this!

Good job :D

Re: the flavor of the season

I really dig the scratch board style you've got going with this image and the simple coloring really pulls it all together. =] I hope you get more votes.

AdderXYU wrote:except they already rejected this exact same shirt.

Sometimes, angry mobs are drawn for a reason.

Agreed. But he has a point.

taraxgoesxboom wrote:I really really really want to own this!

Good job :D

Oh my goodness, adding on to my own post....

No wonder I'm in love with this. I just realized who you are... I'm in love with all of your stuff, lol. I bought like 4 different prints from you at A-Fest and hovered around your table far too many times XD

Now I really want this to win, lol.