TheyKilledKenny


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odysseyroc wrote:If I wore this and somebody was offended, I'd be offended that they were offended.



Offend them all... let PETA sort them out!!!

Excuse Me Maam, Your Woot is Showing...

EclecticMuse


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orzine wrote:google search "sylvia shi otakon")



That was enlightening ...

kender42


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goldenthorn wrote:



B/C I know you need this:

song derby wrote:Most of us have some favorite lyrical snippet that we've slapped all over our high school yearbooks and MySpace pages. Now it's time to slap it on your chest, in graphic form. Illustrate a choice line, or verse, or more. You should be reasonably certain that more than ten people will have heard the song. Claiming that your little brother's band does a song about Calvinball isn't going to fool the moderators.


The title of your entry should be "Inspired By (Insert Song Title)". This will make it easier on voters and moderators. It's ugly, but if your shirt wins, we're going to have to change the title before we sell it anyway. Also, make sure you tell us in the entry discussion thread specifically what lyrics you're talking about.

No text this week. Putting actual lyrics on your shirt is stealing somebody else's work. Illustrating those lyrics is being "inspired by" someone else's work. See how that works?



No mention of "visually depict, reinterpret, misinterpret, remix, or take literally the movie title, book title, tv show name, etc"

movie title derby wrote:Our Lyrics Illustrated Derby was such a creative (and, we'll admit, commercial) success that we're doing what any music-industry success would do: taking our act to the movies. Design a shirt that illustrates, re-interprets, or takes literally a movie title without using any distinctive visual elements from the movie in question. In other words, your "Star Wars" shirt can show two stars fighting, but not with light sabers. Your "Iron Man" shirt can show a dude ironing his shirt, but not his metal combat suit. That sort of thing.

Title your entry "Inspired by" followed by the movie title you're illustrating, the same way you did in the Lyrics Illustrated Derby.

Incidental text is allowed.



This one did allow for it, mentioned it and didn't say to look back at the previous one for the rules or in other words it stated it in the derby rules!


book title derby wrote:With the success of our previous song-lyric and movie-title Derbies, we started looking around for other forms of human expression to exploit. Eventually, we wound up at the library. Take the title of a well-known book and visually depict, reinterpret, misinterpret, or remix it for our apparel pleasure. As always, avoid copyright infringement, and keep it PG-13 (which would make Naked Lunch a challenge).


Your title should be something like "Inspired By (Book Title Here)". I mean, sure, we're so intensely well-read that we'll recognize your visual allusion right away, but specifying it in the title is more fair to our dumber voters.

And no text this week.



Again this one allows for it and states it in the rules but doesn't tell you to go back to the previous derby to see if it is ok.

tv show title derby wrote:We did it with song lyrics. We did it with movie titles. We even did it with book titles, although many of you didn't notice. Now turn your Bezier tools toward the boob tube for inspiration. Flip through your collection of TV Guides and visually depict, reinterpret, misinterpret, or remix the name of a TV show. As always, avoid copyright infringement, and keep it PG-13.

As in the past, your entry should be called something like "Inspired By Desperate Housewives." But without the Desperate Housewives part, and including the name of your chosen show. Which might be Desperate Housewives. But we've said enough.

Except for this: no text this week.



See a pattern yet?

famous quote derby wrote:We regret that we have but one Derby full of sound and fury while truth is putting on its shoes. Never before have so many stitches in time saved nine for so few. We had to destroy the village to layeth down in green pastures. This week, take a famous quotation and render it imaginatively in images. That means your Gettysburg Address quote should'nt be a picture of Abraham Lincoln giving a speech, 'kay? Just remember how it worked when we did this with song lyrics, and movie titles, and book titles, and TV show titles, and you should be fine. After all, if you can't say anything nice about a bird in the hand, let's roll!

No song lyrics or dialogue from movies, TV shows, or video games. Lines from poetry, fiction, etc. are acceptable as long as they can reasonably be considered a "famous quote".

No text.



It was probably ok in this one b/c they said 'imaginatively' but they did state it in that derbies rules.

kender42


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jewelwing wrote:Thanks for handling that one for me. Appreciate it. ;)

Also, I think the mood in the image is "calm" (since the noisy bird has been dealt with and now the other one is chilling) and "bright" (with the lighter shades against the dark shirt) So the lyrics of the song were taken into account. Nothing says you have to cover every single word of the song.



My thinking you are no not on theme has nothing to do with you. I couldn't comment on Boots being not on theme and not comment on another one so clearly not on theme by the same standard I applied to hers. On/Off theme is my opinon and in the end it is up to the REJECTOR and the community to decide I just bring it up for discussion and to see what the artist has to say. In the past both you and boots have made several shirts that I like.

jasneko


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Re: Inspired By: 12 days of Christmas


sezen wrote:AHHH too cute <3. I want one


Thanks sezen

icymallard wrote:okay jazz.

after analyzing the fog for a couple of days, i have come to the conclusion that

This design will be the one i want to buy.

Hope u place

hehe, after analyzing ey? Well, cool, hope you can. Thanks!

Vote!

Earlysong


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AdderXYU wrote:Arguably, neither does the user in question



Touché.

I love this website! ^^

capedcrusader514


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innuendopanda wrote:Hahaha... Gansta Santa. Awesome.

but his pinky looks painful (just saying haha)



This was my first thought bc i are <3 the hiphop but we'll see how woot likes it, i didn't think they would.


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Re: Inspired By Gabriel's Message



I'd buy this. It would also make a killer tattoo.

goldenthorn


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kender42 wrote: *snip*



Ha! That was funny.
You want to play with semantics?
When discussing artistic interpretation?
On shirt.woot?
In a derby forum?
With woot rejectionators being what they are?
With an "inspiration" derby?
After past inspiration derbies that have yielded completely abstract/symbolic/ridiculously literal/surreal/etc interpretations of their respective subjects?
Which requires subjective interpretation of words (in this case, song lyrics) that have different meanings and contexts for different individuals?
Most especially when those words are part of a song that evoke emotions/memories/understandings and are then supposed to be depicted visually (art)?
By artists?
And even more so when most entries (in this and all previous "inspired by" derbies) take various levels of creative license in creating visual depictions of their subjects?
When the artists who are taking the creative license to play around with the words and themes in songs are artists that have been derby artists for a very long time, and are all established, respected artists both on woot and on other tshirt sites (hells, even RAMY is both vague and appropriately on topic with his song lyric design)?
Words -> lyrics -> music -> art?
DISCONNECT?

We can see it now: the agonized grimaces of the roasting chestnuts, the city sidewalks dressed in Santa suits, the cliquish reindeer gathered around the Monopoly board. Take a Christmas carol, Hanukkah tune, Kwanzaa ditty, Diwali chant, Equinox dirge, etc. and render its lyrics in graphic form. We've done this before with song lyrics, and movie titles, and book titles, and TV show titles, and famous quotations, so take a look at those Derbies if you need a sense of how to approach the subject.


"render its lyrics in graphic form" = the artists are rendering its lyrics in graphic form, through their own interpretation and in the ways it's been done in previous derbies.

DISCUSSION!!!!

snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark.


edit, add: didja note the sarcastic examples that the wootbot provided in the theme description ("the agonized grimaces of the roasting chestnuts, the city sidewalks dressed in Santa suits, the cliquish reindeer gathered around the Monopoly board")? Are any of those ACTUALLY in the songs they are referencing? Nope. Sarcastic or not, the description allows for liberal interpretation.


I rose in rainy autumn and walked abroad in a shower of all my days.

odysseyroc


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TheyKilledKenny wrote:Offend them all... let PETA sort them out!!!



Exactly!





Jaiyla


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bassanimation wrote:Going to post this on my Facebook to see if I can drum up some more support here. This is my favorite design in this derby, I would soooo love to have it. ;_;



Remember that you have to had bought something on woot before to vote

phd2001


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csmith14


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Re: Inspired by: I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus



This is fantastic. I've never purchased Christmas-y attire, but there's no way I'd be able to say "nay" to this.

kender42


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goldenthorn wrote:edit, add: didja note the sarcastic examples that the wootbot provided in the theme description ("the agonized grimaces of the roasting chestnuts, the city sidewalks dressed in Santa suits, the cliquish reindeer gathered around the Monopoly board")? Are any of those ACTUALLY in the songs they are referencing? Nope. Sarcastic or not, the description allows for liberal interpretation.



You just shine when you are angry.

But to answer your question....

Chestnuts in song? Check.
City sidewalks dressed in holiday style in a song? Check.
Reindeer playing reindeer games in song? Check.

All of these things in a song and relevant...check!

Owls with duct tape on their face in the song? Negative.

Owls in the song? Negative.

Boombox in the song? Negative.

Night in the song? Check.

At least one element was there, but I suppose you think that makes it ok.

jtiff


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Earlysong wrote:I'm pretty sure you're the only person on woot who can draw this realistically this well. At least, you're the only person I've seen who has.


She is very good at composing design elements, but I dont think much of it is original drawing.
screech owl
barn owl
boom box

kender42


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AdderXYU wrote:The sheer effort obviously put into this is enough to make it deserve a print, but the quality and flow should secure it first. There's no excuse for any other scenario.

I don't understand how people can see work as laboriously and passionately done as this clearly was, and still support certain people's regular rehashes.



Agreed.

To the artist: This is the type of shirt I wanted to see for this song! Love it.

kazbill


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EclecticMuse wrote:Do you really think this is pandering? If I was pandering I would have stuck a kitten constellation in the sky or something...



haha, totally QFT

goldenthorn


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kender42 wrote:You just shine when you are angry.

But to answer your question....

Chestnuts in song? Check.
City sidewalks dressed in holiday style in a song? Check.
Reindeer playing reindeer games in song? Check.

All of these things in a song and relevant...check!

Owls with duct tape on their face in the song? Negative.

Owls in the song? Negative.

Boombox in the song? Negative.

Night in the song? Check.

At least one element was there, but I suppose you think that makes it ok.



Sir, semantics.
Sir, symbolism.
Sir, interpretation.
Sir, art.

Sir: the whole, not just the postscript.



Shine shine shine.
Discussion!!!!

I rose in rainy autumn and walked abroad in a shower of all my days.

kender42


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ramyb wrote:The design is based off the lyric "Gone away is the bluebird," but I tried to let it visually convey the mood of the song for me Stayed up way past my bedtime to finish this one up, and I hope you enjoy.



Thank you Ramyb for pointing out the lyric used from the song for your interp.

I like what you did and am glad you made a second shirt this time. Good job keeping this one on theme.

kender42


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mrwednesday wrote: snip



I would swear you keep a secret clip art shrine to ramyb in your closet or something. That or you have every shirt he has ever done burned into your brain.

But yes it is a similar style to what he has done before, but again he makes it fit. I suspect it will stay in the fog all night but it will likely not print.

odysseyroc


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Re: [url=http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=37596]Inspired by



Aurora Borealis? At this time of year? At this time of day? In this part of the country? Localized entirely within your kitchen?





EclecticMuse


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odysseyroc wrote:Aurora Borealis? At this time of year? At this time of day? In this part of the country? Localized entirely within your kitchen?



It's more likely than you think!

choumore


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Re: Have yourself a merry little christmas



One of my favorite Xmas carols. Who does not want a travel-sized Xmas so that you can carry around all the time?

I know it is kinda late, but I hope you will like it.

AdderXYU


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jtiff wrote:She is very good at composing design elements, but I dont think much of it is original drawing.
screech owl
barn owl
boom box



I'd say you're probably spot on as far as reference photos go for the owls (The colors and details are making it hard for me to decide whether it's just well referenced or traced, but as always, general respectability and reputation count for a lot in a situation like this, so I'd give the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise), but the boombox is just reaching. For starters, it's a totally different angle, and for seconds, that's how boomboxes look. Again, could be the inspiration, but if so, it's undeniable that it was redrawn from scratch.

mrwednesday


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kender42 wrote:I would swear you keep a secret clip art shrine to ramyb in your closet or something. That or you have every shirt he has ever done burned into your brain.

But yes it is a similar style to what he has done before, but again he makes it fit. I suspect it will stay in the fog all night but it will likely not print.



Nope, just so happens that shirtderbystats.com archives every derby and every submission and you can search each derby by artist. It's really helpful for getting a feel for an artist's entire lineup and for looking up old shirts you can't quite remember. Takes all of the work out of it.

odysseyroc


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EclecticMuse wrote:It's more likely than you think!



I find that it generally only happens when you're making steamed hams.





MorbidEclipse


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Re: inspired by sleigh ride




Ahahaha AWESOME!!!! This made my night!!!!

kender42


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goldenthorn wrote:Ha! That was funny.
You want to play with semantics?
When discussing artistic interpretation?
On shirt.woot?
In a derby forum?
With woot rejectionators being what they are?
With an "inspiration" derby?
After past inspiration derbies that have yielded completely abstract/symbolic/ridiculously literal/surreal/etc interpretations of their respective subjects?
Which requires subjective interpretation of words (in this case, song lyrics) that have different meanings and contexts for different individuals?
Most especially when those words are part of a song that evoke emotions/memories/understandings and are then supposed to be depicted visually (art)?
By artists?
And even more so when most entries (in this and all previous "inspired by" derbies) take various levels of creative license in creating visual depictions of their subjects?
When the artists who are taking the creative license to play around with the words and themes in songs are artists that have been derby artists for a very long time, and are all established, respected artists both on woot and on other tshirt sites (hells, even RAMY is both vague and appropriately on topic with his song lyric design)?
Words -> lyrics -> music -> art?
DISCONNECT?



1. ha ha ha funny indeed.

2. Not semantics just pointing out the rules as they are stated.

3. Yes.

4. It would seems so.

5. Again it seems that way.

6. The rejectionator has been in the suck of recent.

7. Again it seems that way.

8. Yet they were all relevant to the subject at hand or were in derbies where the rules expressly stated that "...reinterpret, misinterpret, or remix..." productions were expected.

9. It does indeed, but it is expected to be on theme and within the context of the song. Such as how the chestnuts crying in agony over a roasted fire would have had elements from the song and would be something that someone could get. Do you think that someone is going to get silent night from two owls listening to a boombox and one of them having tape over its mouth?

10. Yes.

11. Again, yes.

12. Four birds calling in a song? Check.
Blue Bird flying away in a song? Check.
Owls listening to radio or taping mouths in a song? Negative.
A Knight on a horse saying nothing in a song? Negative.

They are supposed to interpret the song lyrics not just create a pun on the title.

Previous derbies were for inspiration not for you to refer to their rules for rules in the current derby.

13. What does being an established artist have to do with being on theme? Established artists can make mistakes just like everyone else.


So as I said earlier this is not on theme just b/c you want to apply a rule from a previous derby to this one. If we were to do that we would use text on this shirt. Why not after all it was a previous derby rule in the derbies they mentioned. Like I pointed out in a previous post here they didn't state anywhere in this derby that misinterpretations and what not were what they were looking for.

In the end it does not matter what either of us think it will matter what the REJECTOR thinks.

On another note, I think that a Q&A forum should be opened for the theme so that artist can ask for rule clarifications on the derby of the week. So that for example, and I know this is crazy, that some people thought that a derby was telling the artist to refer to previous derbies for the current derby rules they would be able to ask for clarification. Then the REJECTIONATOR could answer those questions and better guide the artists in what is and is not acceptable.



kender42


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mrwednesday wrote:Nope, just so happens that shirtderbystats.com archives every derby and every submission and you can search each derby by artist. It's really helpful for getting a feel for an artist's entire lineup and for looking up old shirts you can't quite remember. Takes all of the work out of it.



Oops I must have forgot my /sarcasm markers.

picasserole


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Re: Insired by 'I'll Be Home For Chrismas'


No need to strain your eyes trying to make out the detail... Big Fat print-size Image Here!


choumore


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XxSLIPxX


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The snowman doesn't want it to snow because he was just made. More snow on top of him will surely destroy him.

About the cloud looking stoned/constipated... I don't see it bud?

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Lets just make EVERY picture be some cute little kitten or puppy or anime cartoon.


Or lets learn to like something else...maybe make a cuteshirt.woot so that this place can stay shirt.woot?

kender42


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Re: inspired by sleigh ride



I really hope this prints just so people realize the power of spite votes.

goldenthorn


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kender42 wrote:*snip*



Meh. I quite strongly disagree with you.

This is not about applying rules from previous derbies. This is about following woot's directions by looking to those previous derbies (the entries) for a better (more nuanced) understanding of how to go about participating in this derby. This is in addition to the rules very freely laid out by the wootbot. All pretty open and loose for interpretation.

Now, the manner in which that understanding should/could/may be executed in a design is where you and I differ in opinion.

Oh, well.

I rose in rainy autumn and walked abroad in a shower of all my days.

xazothia


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jtiff wrote:She is very good at composing design elements, but I dont think much of it is original drawing.
screech owl
barn owl
boom box



If Jewelwing traced these, she's the worst tracer ever, because I couldn't get them to line up in photoshop without distorting the proportions of the photos (and even then, stuff was way off).

These are reference images which have been treated with an artistic touch. The markings on the owls are changed, which is an obvious display of the artist's personal touch being brought in, rather than meticulously copying the minute details of the subject (which is something that tracers do).

Contrary to what some people believe, the use of reference images is something that good artists do.

goldenthorn


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kender42 wrote:I really hope this prints just so people realize the power of spite votes.



Oh, this would never print.
Even were woot not to reject it during the voting period, even were it to make it to the top three, woot would refuse to print it--as is their prerogative.
Every laughing vote for this is a vote known not to be taken seriously... like this entry.

I rose in rainy autumn and walked abroad in a shower of all my days.

kender42


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goldenthorn wrote:Now, the manner in which that understanding should/could/may be executed in a design is where you and I differ in opinion.

Oh, well.



Agree.

Though I do think that woot needs to be available to answer the artists questions about derbies prior to spending the hours and hours on a piece just to find that it is not on theme.

kender42


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goldenthorn wrote:Oh, this would never print.
Even were woot not to reject it during the voting period, even were it to make it to the top three, woot would refuse to print it--as is their prerogative.
Every laughing vote for this is a vote known not to be taken seriously... like this entry.



But if this were only April. They could have let it win and then just sent everyone a random raymb shirt.

Kewpie83


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Re: [url=http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=37574]Inspired by



Very nice! The radio station around my area plays this song all the time. :p