TheyKilledKenny
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odysseyroc wrote:If I wore this and somebody was offended, I'd be offended that they were offended.
Offend them all... let PETA sort them out!!!
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goldenthorn
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kender42 wrote: *snip*
Ha! That was funny.
You want to play with semantics?
When discussing artistic interpretation?
On shirt.woot?
In a derby forum?
With woot rejectionators being what they are?
With an "inspiration" derby?
After past inspiration derbies that have yielded completely abstract/symbolic/ridiculously literal/surreal/etc interpretations of their respective subjects?
Which requires subjective interpretation of words (in this case, song lyrics) that have different meanings and contexts for different individuals?
Most especially when those words are part of a song that evoke emotions/memories/understandings and are then supposed to be depicted visually (art)?
By artists?
And even more so when most entries (in this and all previous "inspired by" derbies) take various levels of creative license in creating visual depictions of their subjects?
When the artists who are taking the creative license to play around with the words and themes in songs are artists that have been derby artists for a very long time, and are all established, respected artists both on woot and on other tshirt sites (hells, even RAMY is both vague and appropriately on topic with his song lyric design)?
Words -> lyrics -> music -> art?
DISCONNECT?
We can see it now: the agonized grimaces of the roasting chestnuts, the city sidewalks dressed in Santa suits, the cliquish reindeer gathered around the Monopoly board. Take a Christmas carol, Hanukkah tune, Kwanzaa ditty, Diwali chant, Equinox dirge, etc. and render its lyrics in graphic form. We've done this before with song lyrics, and movie titles, and book titles, and TV show titles, and famous quotations, so take a look at those Derbies if you need a sense of how to approach the subject.
"render its lyrics in graphic form" = the artists are rendering its lyrics in graphic form, through their own interpretation and in the ways it's been done in previous derbies.
DISCUSSION!!!!
snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark.
edit, add: didja note the sarcastic examples that the wootbot provided in the theme description ("the agonized grimaces of the roasting chestnuts, the city sidewalks dressed in Santa suits, the cliquish reindeer gathered around the Monopoly board")? Are any of those ACTUALLY in the songs they are referencing? Nope. Sarcastic or not, the description allows for liberal interpretation.
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goldenthorn
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kender42 wrote:You just shine when you are angry.
But to answer your question....
Chestnuts in song? Check.
City sidewalks dressed in holiday style in a song? Check.
Reindeer playing reindeer games in song? Check.
All of these things in a song and relevant...check!
Owls with duct tape on their face in the song? Negative.
Owls in the song? Negative.
Boombox in the song? Negative.
Night in the song? Check.
At least one element was there, but I suppose you think that makes it ok.
Sir, semantics.
Sir, symbolism.
Sir, interpretation.
Sir, art.
Sir: the whole, not just the postscript.
Shine shine shine.
Discussion!!!!
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goldenthorn
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kender42 wrote:*snip*
Meh. I quite strongly disagree with you.
This is not about applying rules from previous derbies. This is about following woot's directions by looking to those previous derbies (the entries) for a better (more nuanced) understanding of how to go about participating in this derby. This is in addition to the rules very freely laid out by the wootbot. All pretty open and loose for interpretation.
Now, the manner in which that understanding should/could/may be executed in a design is where you and I differ in opinion.
Oh, well.
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goldenthorn
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kender42 wrote:I really hope this prints just so people realize the power of spite votes.
Oh, this would never print.
Even were woot not to reject it during the voting period, even were it to make it to the top three, woot would refuse to print it--as is their prerogative.
Every laughing vote for this is a vote known not to be taken seriously... like this entry.
I rose in rainy autumn and walked abroad in a shower of all my days.