bassanimation


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bluetuba wrote:"winning" formula



Ramy and Seki aren't the only artists who use favored techniques to consistently gain votes. Just an observation. -shrugg- If the shoe fits, I don't see a problem with wearing it. Obviously others don't have a problem with it either.

jasneko


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Re: Optical Illusion Bird


taninniver wrote:I'm a fan of salmon and orange on maybe navy or cranberry, or perhaps the same greens on lemon or royal blue - or even violets on red or cranberry.
I do very much like the limited palette - It's more of a curiosity than a criticism as I wonder what it would look like with a bit more contrast.

Oh no worries, I understood it as a curiosity, not a criticism!
I actually was trying several combinations after your comment but got sidetracked with other items... I had meant to post them. Perhaps I still will. Thanks for the input!

Calexico wrote:I love the design and the colors


Thank you Calexico!

camoor wrote:I can't wear these colors, but it's really nice.

Sorry you can't wear these colors! Glad you think it's nice, thank you.


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icymallard


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Re: The Bird is the Word



id wear this... its so totally ambiguous

jasneko


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Re: Bedtime Bird
lindab53 wrote:Love this one!


Thanks Lindab!

prozakgal wrote:Definitely liking it

Definite thanks prozakgal

F150vsRAM wrote:So cute!

Thank you F150vsRAM!

kamz wrote:Aaaawww, nap time & now I too want my teddy.
Jasneko your illustartion is always so cute, just like the illustration from my fave childrens book.

heh we were thinking about calling it 'teddy bird' also. Thanks so much kamz, that's so nice!


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mikenytola


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This is brilliant. GMV

tjost


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Re: Green Cheek Conure (old school monochrome)



I actually really like this. This is my favorite shirt I've seen of yours Kenny. Somethings gotta be said for old school pixel art

tjost


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Re: Flight Academy



Man I just woke up from my sleep coma and checked out my postion this mor..afternoon and YEAH. I'm glad I stayed up till 5am finishing this. This started out as a MUCH simpler piece but as I was working on it it got more and more detailed. I now have a claw for a hand as it's cramped into the shape of holding my stylus Thanks for the support everyone!!! This has actually shaped up to be a great derby. There's tons of good art from alot of the regulars. Keep it up everyone!

DMLK64


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balloonboy7 wrote:I love this site. who are you to say i dont have respect for woot?
I just want my shirt up there.



If you don't follow the rules, then how can you say you respect Woot? You should read up on the rules-and take a debate class while you're at it. P.S.-Just because there is a bird in the movie does not mean it qualifies as on-theme.

kylemittskus


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bassanimation wrote:I would also love to see them submit work here, or anywhere. But, I dont think they have the confidence to show us anything that is less than perfection. That would actually open them up to the same type of crit they offer up here daily. I don't know if they have the heart for that . It's not easy having anons on the internet pick apart your every efforts while making assumptions about your character and personal goals.



Please stop using this argument. It's meaningless and completely ignorant.

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

"There are many ways to the recognition of truth; Burgundy is one of them." -Isak Dinesen

jasneko


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bassanimation wrote:Awesome awesome awesome. This is gorgeous.

Agreed... really good. I like the color scheme, just subdued enough to complement the action in the design.

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walmazan


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chennai8 wrote:Good one walmazan...btw Where is "Happy BIRDday" ?



Thanks chennai8, Im appreciate your comment!

"Happy BIRDday" don't received very good feedback on this derby, and I think is a good idea, so I prefer to saved it to a best next opportunity because I really love it! ;)

IndependentVik


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Re: Stupid Parrot, This is a Black-Tie Affair



GMV. So many great things about this one. The colors, the size of the penguin, the subtle expression of annoyance on said giant penguin's face--you rock, man!

I was skeptical, what with the cancellation theme, that we'd get anything worthwhile, but there are some amazing pieces here. Granted, none of them will end up printing . . . fix your derby, woot :P

sagerman4


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Re: Ask Mr. Owl



Please woot!! I need to have this shirt! It says everything I always wanted to say to that greedy, condescending owl.
How he mocked that boy, how he sat high on his branch, smirking at the ignorance of the naive youngster.
My soul burns with anger at this owl and all other owls like him, and the only appropriate vindication that I could imagine before today was to secretly hate owls
But then.
A light in the darkness.
A shirt reveals itself.
Could it be?
It is.
GMV

monkeyswag


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Re: Flight Academy



Very fun and well executed. WTG. GL.

JesseBYAH


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Re: Big Jerk



I'm glad you went with the heather, it looks great! And I love the little birdy falling off =)

Floridafighter66


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Re: Team Esther



STOP MAKING SHIRTS. YOU SUCK. yes, that statement is blunt and offending. but it is true. I agree with the comments above, if you had any respect for woot, you would:

1. stop making shirts
2. read the rules
3. stop acting like you know what you're doing.
4. stop making shirts
5. If you felt the need to make and post a shirt, consult rules 1 and 4.

bunnypotomus


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Re: Don't Call Me Robin



LOL bloody brilliant! well done, great idea

Floridafighter66


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j0naht wrote:How many bullets does it take to reach the center of a smart-ass owl?

Six colors on tootsie roll brown!!



Our Movie Genre, i was literally rolling on the floor with laughter when i saw this and your first comment.

mrwednesday


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SJulian1 wrote:You can't honestly say that he doesn't get some flack because people don't like him (with proper reasons)



Yes I can and you've listed the important part there: "with proper reasons." The proper reasons are the reason he gets flack. People also don't like him, but I can only speak for myself in saying that it doesn't motivate the criticism. From what I have seen from his other major critics, personal vendettas or jealousy don't motivate them either. The few times he has actually put enough effort to make his subs free of major flaws, I've not had a word to say, but that rarely ever happens so you won't notice unless you're paying attention. And honestly, in those cases, his designs don't really do well because most of his casual supporters even recognize the thumbnails.

But honestly, anyone who is motivated by their distaste for ramy, I don't even blame them. It's painfully clear (especially given the mask entry from the mystery derby) that people vote the artist not the submission. That "ramyb" above the comp is just as important as what is below it so why shouldn't people criticize the artist?

geekfactor12


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Re: Don't Call Me Robin



Welcome back Cho! :D

JadenKale


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Re: Don't Call Me Robin



Epic Cho!

gcrable


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tjost wrote:



Well, I was all set to purchase your argyle shirt after it won but now you went and threw a loop in my plan. I love it! I should have guessed they took lessons. Love the colors and the story it tells. GMV! Now get some sleep.

ttdesigns


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Re: Don't Call Me Robin



Great design from Cho after a long time ways from the derbies.

jamescho84


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bassanimation


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Re: Don't Call Me Robin



I loves this! GMV! It's a nice subtle pop culture reference without being "blam!". Very cool. I would buy!

I only have one slight pick. I wish the shadows on the red part of the birds were a little less contoured. A person with a naughty mind might see them as a little boob-like.

InfernoX


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Grats for doing something different.

InfernoX


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Re: The Keeper of Crimson Ghosts



Great work as always Drakxxx! You have my vote! :D

InfernoX


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Re: Flight Academy



I really like this one, good job!

walmazan


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Re: Don't Call Me Robin



Epic! love it!

JadenKale


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bassanimation wrote:I only have one slight pick. I wish the shadows on the red part of the birds were a little less contoured. A person with a naughty mind might see them as a little boob-like.



They ARE red-breasted.

darkishstar


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Aw, why isn't this in the fog? It's seriously the one shirt I really want from the derby!

Re: Rockin Robin



AdderXYU


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marzipanapple wrote:In no way am I an avid supporter of Ramy's usual work (and even less a fan of Seki's work..regardless of it looking the 'same', you can tell Ramy at least has a better understanding of basic shapes/anatomy than she does), but I would like to try being the devil's advocate on this for a sec.

Imagine that he truly enjoys drawing that 'tired non-work' he submits every week. Now let's imagine that he makes lots of money with it (well..I guess 'accept' is a better word than imagine). Now let's all wonder why he's not thwarted by people who are against him.

The equation is pretty much: Draw what you love + get paid for it = WOOHOO!

I think everyone assumes he's pandering on purpose (and sometimes, that might be the case) but even when he *is* I'm pretty sure he loves what he's doing(unfortunately we don't).

Anyway, on the subject of this one I thought the anatomy naysayers might've been too nitpicky until I really looked at the design. Sorry Ramy, but I'm assuming since his talons are in the air that he's in flight. Instead though, it sort of looks like someone is either holding the bird up by his wing joints or threw him really hard at a perfectly horizontal angle (and he's just hit the wall). 'Lookit that, Earl! Bird's bleed'n neon ornge!'



Which is why knowing more about him is so important.

If I love selling cars, and it is my job, obviously I'm going to get paid for it and no one is going to like me, because car salesmen are high-pressure jerkoffs. But I might not be a jerkoff (lol at that) in real life. I might simply love the challenge and the interacting with people. You can certainly love what you do and make money off it even if it is scaffolding.

But Ramy's entire artistic career has been about sneaking and manipulating and greed and jealousy of anything that isn't him. If we even go so far as his responses at woot, every one from he and his girl are condescending, nose-thumbing, etc. They do not care, because it brings in money.

They also so rarely stay on theme. The last two weeks, it's been impossible to NOT be on theme, but most weeks they do the bare minimum to be juuuust on the edge where they can argue a theme that only they and woot seem to see. If this was something they truly loved, they would respect the contest. They would force themselves to be on theme, instead of just drawing the same trash every week and shoehorning it in. This is easy to show for anyone who has been here for over two months following things

And then, we go back to before woot. Sekiyoku's multi-account ban from deviantart, which Ramy even talks about and admits at his own DA blog. The Otakon incident, where their work was being sold at tables which were not theirs, working around the rules to oversaturate their own exposure potential and bring in more money, and they brought in a non-artist to be a decoy and sell more of their work and create enough doubt. Ramy's own constant defenses of other "controversies" pre-woot on his DA blog, and the frequent attacks there on any art other than his own style (any instance of DA narrowing the anime style from front-page exposure, such as disallowing it in certain catagories or allowing literature to be considered art, for example... god forbid he love doing his work enough to do it when exposure is lessened). And of course, this gif of Ramy's many facial shapes and expressions.

You can postulate all you want that he truly loves doing this style, but I believe that the reason he truly loves it is purely because it brings in the mindless praise and eventually the megabucks. He may like how it looks, or have fun doing it, too, but if that were the main thing, he'd do it while staying on theme, and do it while searching for creative ideas, and do it while altering his specifics to diversify within his style, and most importantly, he'd do it without a shady history as vast and multifaceted as his is.

mrwednesday


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bassanimation wrote:I loves this! GMV! It's a nice subtle pop culture reference without being "blam!". Very cool. I would buy!

I only have one slight pick. I wish the shadows on the red part of the birds were a little less contoured. A person with a naughty mind might see them as a little boob-like.



I guess it didn't take you long to come around on use of IP.

IndependentVik


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bassanimation wrote:I doubt it would make a difference if I wrote to Woot. People love them some pop culture on here. If they want it, who am I to change it? :\ I just don't have to give it my vote.



I'm surprised you have that much of a dislike for existing IP references. Just my opinion, but the pieces you defend week in and week out are much more artistically lazy. They're derivative, rely on an easily-aped, highly marketable style, are conceptually weak or, when they're not, are retreads of designs printed elsewhere.

The stuff you actually draw, though, I tend to find interesting conceptually, and I usually enjoy your execution as well.

IndependentVik


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Re: Flight Academy



There's already a bird poop entry this derby, but dangit if this isn't incredibly well done. Good job this debry, tjost.

tjost


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capedcrusader514 wrote:Great post!



Thanks Caped! I'm thinking about doing a screen print art technique faq/q&a thread here, I just dread the thought of how much typing that would involve

AdderXYU


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bassanimation wrote:Ramy and Seki aren't the only artists who use favored techniques to consistently gain votes. Just an observation. -shrugg- If the shoe fits, I don't see a problem with wearing it. Obviously others don't have a problem with it either.



No, no, they're not the only PEOPLE who use these things. Most people who rely on the same tired cliches are not artists. They are businesspeople. They are nothing. You can't be artistic and cliche and tired unless you are able to continually bring something new to the table, and something impressive to the table.

There are people who have similar elements frequently but DO bring something. They have impressive skills in their execution, they have a diversity of subjects to incorporate elements into, they are willing to expand from those subjects and take risks, and they are doing things that are uniquely them, even if they do it repeatedly. The people who do the same as Ramy and Seki, however... using one or two simple, uncreative, marketflooding styles to make generic work of boring ideas for the sake of making a quick buck, and never push themselves... those people get what ramiyoku get. They're just here less. Why? Because all they care about is money, and with ramy and seki clenching their artless hands around the payoffs, it's not worth it for them to waste time. Because to all of these people, a design that might not win is a waste of time.

Khataan


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tjost wrote:Thanks Caped! I'm thinking about doing a screen print art technique faq/q&a thread here, I just dread the thought of how much typing that would involve



Please do!!!! Thanks in advance!!

AdderXYU


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IndependentVik wrote:I'm surprised you have that much of a dislike for existing IP references. Just my opinion, but the pieces you defend week in and week out are much more artistically lazy. They're derivative, rely on an easily-aped, highly marketable style, are conceptually weak or, when they're not, are retreads of designs printed elsewhere.

The stuff you actually draw, though, I tend to find interesting conceptually, and I usually enjoy your execution as well.



Don't worry, Vik, she's new. As soon as she realizes Cho is pretty much a woot paragon of quality in concept and execution, she'll be ragging on him like she does EVERY good designer here.

tjost


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IndependentVik wrote:There's already a bird poop entry this derby, but dangit if this isn't incredibly well done. Good job this debry, tjost.



Thanks Vik and everyone else so far. Yeah like I said it was going to be a much simpler piece to start off, I think I may post some sketches so people can see the evolution it took. It was going to be more cartoony but I was inspired by some of the nicely detailed pieces on the derby this week.