orzine wrote:i am willing ramyb has two talents. he can color attractively, and he knows what will sell best. but time after time, when he travels outside his comfort zone of nauseously cute designs and formless swirly halftones, you can start to see hot little talent he actually has. he cannot draw proper anatomy to save his life, just look at his win from the luck derby and the "chest hands" on the dinosaur. he gets lemon juice in the eye at perspective, just look at his rocket turtle win. he gets lemon juice in the eye at making work expressive, especially faces. if you take a design like this, you can break it down into alot of pre-designed elements; the skulls, the butterfly from the previous derby, the blond woman that probably came from tracing a stock photo, the birds which are most likely stock vectors, the splatter that even a gorilla can create, and the vague outline of a man. none of that requires any talent. and none of it actually displays any talent.
keep in mind that i am willing to admit he has a great talent in coloring. he has come a long way from just overusing the dodge and burn tools. but please dont tell me that this design shows a talent in illustration. it just doesnt.
the talent he doesnt show so obviously is his great ability to look at a contest or system and figure out how to cheat and manipulate it for maximum monetary gain for himself. that and looking like a victim to evoke empathy.
and if i am wrong about that, then he definitely has a talent to herd a massive amounts of mindless voters garnered from other sites to vote up his designs.
so dont call me a hater, im willing to give credit where it is due
I have not taken the time to examine this particular piece or his other artsy pieces to determine whether they were constructed from the ground up or not.
Do I respect artists who clearly start from scratch more? Absolutely. But I think that an artist who knows how to combine preconstructed elements in an appealing fashion is still an artist, and that doing that still requires talent and most of all, a good eye.
There are many artists here and everywhere who have loads and loads of 'talent from scratch' and yet their work has no appeal to me at all. To me, art is ultimately about BEAUTY and APPEAL - so if ramyb's design LOOKS GOOD AND MAKES ME HAPPY - it serves its purpose as good art.
I absolutely HATE lots of ramyb's stuff. But there have been some designs I have really, really admired and coveted - this is one, and the Victorian lady by the sea is another (one of my favourite woot designs of all time, possibly).
Even if an an artist produces a lot of work I despise, I'll still consider each new piece with an open mind.
The only artist I always vote for on principle is Drakxxx...there is no one I would 'never' vote for, however.
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