mrwednesday wrote:
As an added bonus there are already shirts exactly like this one which is also rejectable. We all know that woot likes to ignore the rules for ramy but pretending this is above board is just naive.
*cue the mindless ramy hoards screaming, "this is the only good shirt ever designed I have to have it ramy is best designer ever and he created everything so all ideas belong to him!"
First off Mr.Wed... I must respect a fellow who has three ferrets in their profile pic. Ferrets are friggin awesome, and I wish they weren't illegal in my state. That being said, I hope i can continue the following in a civilized manner and not appear to be offensive in anyway.
I believe Megsck is trying to defend the artist because her nature doesn't let her not take bullying personally, and a lot of the comments can be considered a bit aggressive. That's nothing new though, and it seems that there is a lot of personal history between many members of woot and the artist in question. I haven't been here long at all, but I've had a taste of the kind of ... show... that goes on here. It's all well and good, anonymity allows people to get away with saying what they need to say without having to worry about offending anyone.
It seems to me that a lot of the aggression is coming from RamyBs popularity. It's like he's the Yankees of shirt.woot (I'm not a sports guy so I'm not entirely certain that analogy makes any sense). I'm not a big fan of the fact that the guy has 2 shirts currently in the fog, but that's not really up to me. Calling forth for rejection is certainly a viable tactic for freeing up space for other artists here who could have a chance against the contenders in the fog, but at times these tactics seem dirty.
Yeah, I'll agree that this particular shirt is not original, but I don't completely agree that it's plagiarism. wait I take that back... it's not Copyright Infringement... I think the way plagiarism is being used in this sense is trying to make the situation seem as serious as Copyright infringement, when it's not entirely. Plagiarism gives us things like The Illusionist and The Prestige, No Doubt and Save Ferris, and GoBots and Transformers. These are all take similar ideas that to the rest of us seem redundant. Yes, the juxtaposition of a cute, seemingly innocent bunny to the remains of the once living is completely unoriginal as stated by many above, but he hasn't committed Infringement.
Do I think this shirt should get rejected? Truthfully, yes. I don't think Woot can deny that similar shirts exist. Do I think the artist needs to feel bad about it? No. I don't think it's a terrible design, but I can see that it's similar enough to warrant the "Similar Shirts Exist" achievement. His atom shirt is pretty original, and that already has a good shot. Ok, I realize I've completely talked myself into accepting this shirt as plagiarism... but hey, that's like how C.S. Lewis suddenly found God when he wrote the Narnia series to refute a case for God. Stupid tangent.
Oh RamyB... nothing personal. I myself enjoy some of your stuff. I'm just trying to view this thread from different angles. It's plagiarism in that you're using a similar idea that MANY people are guilty of using, but you aren't the first and you certainly won't be the last. I mean, c'mon... we're all on a site that lets people put art on shirts to print and sell. that's not a completely original idea either. I think people pick on you because you're always winning. Good for you, too bad for the rest of us, but I don't think you should be put on trial the way some these members seem to want you to be. hmmm. Now I feel awkward.
