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Re: Big Blue Box series 2

This gets rejected but the much more obvious Calvin and Hobbes shirt doesn't? Can't really understand that. This is primitive stick figures running for a telephone booth. The other is obviously Calvin and Hobbes, not drawn in a primitive style at all, darn near looking like the originals. I can't understand the reasoning behind this. The Calvin and Hobbes shirt is 100 times more likely to get you in trouble because it's so clearly those two characters. This is stick figures and a phone booth.

beaterbar wrote:then we are agreed. As you can see above, I am no Ramyb fan, I'd just like to see consistency in criticism and I don't think this shirt is rejectable. As for the rejectionator, I think some rules are inconsistently enforced, but they are the vague ones like on theme. Similar shirts exist and copyright violations are swiftly enforced when woot knows about them. In terms of world nomination, you can't expect woot to know every obscure artist's portfolio, and they did the right thing as soon as it was pointed out (as tilteed and other companies do when such things happen).

I disagree - look at Physics. Anything referencing Schrodinger's cat whatsoever was rejected for similar shirts existing no matter how different they were. Here, a similar shirt (Calvin eaten by Hobbes) exists and no rejection has happened.

Re: Big Blue Box series 2

I don't understand why can't you run this woot? It's people running for a blue box. That could be anything, not necessarily a reference. Also, it's totally parody, because this would NEVER happen on Doctor Who. Plus, who cares if someone else did the work to create this stuff, other people should be able to profit off it! Gosh, it's just a teeshirt, woot.

Re: Big Blue Box series 2

I think the Rejectionator should list the actual reason for rejection instead of blowing smoke. That way people won't have to speculate.
And not only that...being consistent might help too.

studio1172 wrote:This is my favorite of the derby!

Me too. I so want to see this printed.

sogj wrote:I would like to clarify that I didn't mean to sound like I thought art was only good for making a buck, or that the only reason I was here was to make money. I'm a photographer in real life, my husband is a graphic designer, and my mother is an artist (painting and sculpting, gallery works) so I have tremendous respect for the creative business. I love it and have a passion for it.

That being said, I also have a mortgage and two kids. I love designing shirts, I love having to randomly come up with something to fit a "theme," but I absolutely wouldn't stay up until 3 in the morning every Friday and take care of a toddler and infant in a complete stupor the next day just for the fun of it, with no chance at supplemental income.

Just to clarify.

I quite got the point, which is why I said it was put brilliantly. Every single competitor here is competing for the same one in three chance at $1000. It's a big prize and it is certainly a huge reason why the site should be fair about their content and exacting in their rejections. There are always people who deserve that prize. In this derby, I would not be offended were one of them one of yours.

I simply wanted to give the other side of the coin. This isn't just about money. It's about artistic ethics. And it's not just about someone's own opinion of art or ethics. It's about a big prize and not giving that big prize to pandering, mediocre, overdone, and potentially stolen work.

Re: Prehistory Apocalypse

clever - thumbs up

Re: Big Blue Box series 2

AARRRRGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

kc6201
Re: Big Blue Box series 2

The problem I have with this is way the TARDIS is drawn. It has clean and perfectly straight lines. Shouldn't it be more primitive looking, like the stick figures?

I agree. Give your 5-yr.old a picture of the Tardis, a blue crayon, and tell 'em to draw what they see. Might get you closer to "primitive."

Hey...this has made it twice to the fog...there's still time for another revision!

indihar wrote:I agree. Give your 5-yr.old a picture of the Tardis, a blue crayon, and tell 'em to draw what they see. Might get you closer to "primitive."

Hey...this has made it twice to the fog...there's still time for another revision!

There is time, but it'd just get rejected again, because there wasn't a specific reason specified. So how is anyone to know what needs to be fixed?

Re: Sabertooth

I'm curious if woot would ever be conniving enough to willingly let something that is blatantly infringing on a copyright actually print. Rejected copyrighted material doesn't seem to be able to justify legal consequences, or even a ban, but they could be justified if something managed to "slip through."

That might be thinking too optimistically, though.

kc6201 wrote:I didn't understand all of that, but prehistory means before written history, right? Before history was recorded? So the apocalypse to them is the coming of the written language?

Exactly.

LarryLars wrote:How is it that this drawing is unacceptable, but this one is? Why does having fingers cut off get a rejection but having one's heart cut out is OK? Yes, I know the latter is slightly more of a "muted" style, but I found the idea more shocking. (note: I like both designs. I'm just trying to see woot's "logic" in the rejection.)

Ummm... wow. I didn't even think about that one. Maybe it's different because it's a bunny (in the shirt you linked to)? But still... if THIS isn't PG-13, then Raddishes CERTAINLY isn't.

Not that I have anything against the other shirt, because I own it and love it. However, I would also like to own and love this shirt! This is a bummer :/

badbarky wrote:Dude, this is quite, quite similar to the tattoo on my left arm that always pops out beneath my woot shirt sleeves! That could be funny.

@badbarky - That's pretty cool! I'd love to see that tattoo.

@jasneko - Thank you!

paigeg wrote:This really isn't getting enough love.

Agreed paigeg, there's not enough love in the world, or for this shirt.

@KaylaJ - Thanks for helping out. Also to Naolito, BootsBoots and midgerock.

Come on people, forget votes, let's get more comments.

JesseBYAH wrote:Ummm... wow. I didn't even think about that one. Maybe it's different because it's a bunny (in the shirt you linked to)? But still... if THIS isn't PG-13, then Raddishes CERTAINLY isn't.

Not that I have anything against the other shirt, because I own it and love it. However, I would also like to own and love this shirt! This is a bummer :/

I think rejections like "too violent/pg-13" are probably a bit more subjective than other reasons. So while I totally agree with your argument (though I would personally not have rejected either for violence), I'm more concerned about, for example, how a tardis design got rejected twice, but a calvin and hobbes design didn't, despite C+H's creator having a decidedly clearer stance on his PROPERTY than the good doctor's.

Some inconsistencies are inconsistencies of opinion. Others are inconsistencies of basic fact. I'm not a huge fan of either, but I tend to be more upset at seeing the latter than the former.

sTyLeS wrote:There is time, but it'd just get rejected again, because there wasn't a specific reason specified. So how is anyone to know what needs to be fixed?

Graffd02 would have to contact woot and say something along the lines of, "Hey...I REALLY want to "fix" this shirt and get it back in the derby. But I'm kind'of having trouble "fixing" it, when I don't really know what's wrong with it, since shirt.woot's reason for rejecting was along the lines of, "Rejected = 'cause we don't think it'll work." (In other words, no reason given.) So could you guys kind'of throw me a bone here, and tell me specifically what's wrong with it, so I can fix it? Thanks."

Oh...and like others, I'm still waiting to hear the reason woot's not rejecting the Calvin and Hobbs shirt...

Re: One Two Red Blue

Love it!

+1

mikenytola wrote:This thread =

^

It seems like at this point, leaving comments is pointless. The action I would recommend taking if this design really offends you (which it seems it does... to a lot of people) is to vote for all other 8 entries in the fog to prevent this shirt from going to print. It not guaranteed and a sad way got go about this issue, but at least your actions will have an impact unlike these endless comments.

Re: You Thought Wrong

do want

Re: Sabertooth

Art is Controversial.
I guess he's got my vote!
Anyone in the audience a copyright lawyer?

Assassin15 wrote:Yes, yes you are correct in your interpretation of my apparently confusing statement. And you can call me a he, seeing as I'm only one person.

By all means, make a pedantic, ad hominem argument to mask the fact that your post made no sense whatsoever.

Re: Finger Painting

I have been rejected before, but usually I have been able to quickly change it and resub it. This one is unchangeable since I am unwilling to alter the concept.

I tried to look through all the legal mumbo jumbo and failed miserably. Does rejection return my rights to this piece, or do I still have to wait out the allotted 60 days?

Re: Legend of Cookie Hunter

wow this is my favorite one- im gonna break into my neighbor's houses and make shirt.woot accounts just to boost votes

Re: Self-Portrait

"hey, nice prosthetic leg shirt"

Re: Sabertooth Can Haz Cheezburger?

ill bet you a mountain of tees that this one wins

jimmah120 wrote:ill bet you a mountain of tees that this one wins

If it does, I get to post Mr. Jiggles the dancing kitty!

Good luck, Jasneko! I think this one is going to make it

Thank you Fish, Lucky, Drakx, Froggy & Mind !!

Hahahaha Nice Outfit Mr. Penguin

CVBrennan wrote:Art is Controversial.
I guess he's got my vote!
Anyone in the audience a copyright lawyer?

Maybe not. But a lot of us understand ethics.

mindputtee wrote:I like the dots, I think it makes the whole scene look a little magical. I would recommend (for future reference) maybe using a thinner stroke for the black outlines, it will tone down the business but still preserve the rich texture that makes this beautiful.

It's a really nice piece though, and I love the color palette. I think it would make a very wearable shirt.

Re: Where the Triceratops Roam

Thank you Mindputtee, I will totally take your advice in the future, the line work on your shirt(shown here above)is beautiful.

Re: Where the Triceratops Roam

Simple and clean and a wonderful concept too, otterific idea and beautiful technique!

chumpmagic wrote:^

It seems like at this point, leaving comments is pointless. The action I would recommend taking if this design really offends you (which it seems it does... to a lot of people) is to vote for all other 8 entries in the fog to prevent this shirt from going to print. It not guaranteed and a sad way got go about this issue, but at least your actions will have an impact unlike these endless comments.

To be fair, the best thing to actually do would be to wait until the last minute and then vote, otherwise you'd be giving an unfair advantage to fogged shirts that may only be a few votes ahead of unfogged ones.

kylemittskus wrote:By all means, make a pedantic, ad hominem argument to mask the fact that your post made no sense whatsoever.

*zing*

(In response to my little girl interrupting my typing to yell for a cookie...)

thatrobert wrote:Thanks! Tell your kids they need to hunt their own cookies!

Good plan! They DO know how to walk to the kitchen!

Re: Legend of Cookie Hunter

(If it keeps climbing,they could wear this shirt (above) while doing it!)

Re: The First Supper

I'm pretty sure the rejection was due to the religious overtone.... woot likes to stay away from designs with a religious tone, for fear of offending anyone.

Re: Legend of Cookie Hunter

bassanimation wrote:+1 for AMAZING! Hahahahaha! This is easily one of my late favorites! Way to go, Robert!

Thanks Bass!

hollywoodjane wrote:Oh, I hope this one can climb the ranks quickly, I love it.

That's pretty unlikely but it's fun to try.

jimmah120 wrote:wow this is my favorite one- im gonna break into my neighbor's houses and make shirt.woot accounts just to boost votes

I didn't hear you say that...

Re: Big Blue Box series 2

Hey Woot,

http://shirt.woot.com/friends.aspx?k=8901

Why did that shirt PRINT, while this one is rejected?

Re: Legend of Cookie Hunter

SnowQueenVT wrote:(If it keeps climbing,they could wear this shirt (above) while doing it!)

Yeah, that was a nice little run! Don't know how much longer it will last...

chumpmagic wrote:^

It seems like at this point, leaving comments is pointless. The action I would recommend taking if this design really offends you (which it seems it does... to a lot of people) is to vote for all other 8 entries in the fog to prevent this shirt from going to print. It not guaranteed and a sad way got go about this issue, but at least your actions will have an impact unlike these endless comments.

Yeah, I've already 'anti-voted.' That way this shirt will win by a margin of 304 votes rather than 305. Yay!

Re: The Pucker King

Honestly, a pucker that isn't red just isn't right. Kenney, I agree with you, not your best pucker. I would have liked to have seen prehistoric cave drawings of puckers hunting and killing frowns and gurns. This falls far short of that. But at least ALL YOUR WORK IS ORIGINAL.