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Re: Toucan Sheds His Tint

I really, really like this design. The colors are beautiful and it's a great style.

odysseyroc wrote:Gaming the voting system and plagiarizing don't hurt either.

I've heard that but why isn't something done about that? I see woot cracking down and copyright issues with other designs but never see Ramyb smacked for plagarism although I understand he has been accused of it several times over.

and with the "Gaming the system", I've heard that as well, along with alt accounts and what not. If this is going on it needs to stop. and woot needs to really put a stop to it and put into place a better authentication process for users and voting.

If these are really pushing the votes why isn't something done by woot?

Re: Tori, Torii, Tortoise

@sillykris/JRWorkshop: Thanks, guys! Glad you're digging it. -;]

Re: Tempest in a teapot

funkyjhillis wrote:Looks to me like a "T" take on The Red Hot Chili Peppers song "Storm in a Teacup"

got my vote

If you're interested...According to wikipedia, 'Tempest in a teapot' is an American English idiom, and 'Storm in a teacup' is the British English version. And then there are a whole host of other variations from other countries too.

Thanks funkyjhillis!

midgerock wrote:I've heard that but why isn't something done about that? I see woot cracking down and copyright issues with other designs but never see Ramyb smacked for plagarism although I understand he has been accused of it several times over.

and with the "Gaming the system", I've heard that as well, along with alt accounts and what not. If this is going on it needs to stop. and woot needs to really put a stop to it and put into place a better authentication process for users and voting.

If these are really pushing the votes why isn't something done by woot?

That's the $1,000 question and the reason for all of the uproar in these threads.

Look at the Shirtwhat leader board. Do you find it alarming at all that Ramy and Seki have roughly twice the vote average that TGentry (most derby prints) does and a couple hundred more than Patrickspens. Tgentry isn't competing anymore, but Patrick occasionally will have a design that just flops, it's still in his same popular style, still the same quality of his other stuff, but for some reason it just doesn't resonate with the people. Ramy on the other hand, never has a bad derby, or what would be bad for him would be great for most other people here. You couple that with the other shady dealings in the past, and you can't help but feel like some shenanigans are going on here.

Re: Turntable Turtle

efosao wrote:Love TT Turtle ! I think you should have more text on your shirts. I would love if the characters or the scenes had words to go along . This is my fav so far!

Thanks efosao! It's a good idea, but there is a 'no text' rule this derby - actually it's a rule in many derbies.

I really like the way this one turned out, so nice to hear it's your fav!

Re: Public Toilet

Oh come on... it's a cute little bird trying to poo! How can that not be funny? I'd wear this just so really 'sensitive' people could look at me like, "WHY are you wearing that?".

odysseyroc wrote:Look at the Shirtwhat leader board. Do you find it alarming at all that Ramy and Seki have roughly twice the vote average that TGentry (most derby prints) does and a couple hundred more than Patrickspens. Tgentry isn't competing anymore, but Patrick occasionally will have a design that just flops, it's still in his same popular style, still the same quality of his other stuff, but for some reason it just doesn't resonate with the people. Ramy on the other hand, never has a bad derby, or what would be bad for him would be great for most other people here.

One thing I noticed is that Ramyb usually removes his entries that don't quickly shoot to the top. Getting rid of the low voted shirts would tend to skew his average higher then it already is.

DianaSprinkle wrote:One thing I noticed is that Ramyb usually removes his entries that don't quickly shoot to the top. Getting rid of the low voted shirts would tend to skew his average higher then it already is.

Judging by shirt.what, he's had 2 removed designs that weren't rejected. I don't know how accurate their archive is, but doesn't sound like that's enough to skew the average.

Re: Toucan Sheds His Tint

Best of the derby imo. Hope it doesn't print so I can save my $10 ;)

frik wrote:It is also just traced pictures too.

Meant to post this with my original:


http://www.animalshabitshabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/gex_greenseaturtle.jpg

Re: Tabula rasa RESUB!

The art really reminds me of the cover arts for DJ Okawari's albums, is it influenced by the same art style by any chance?

Re: Topiary Turtle Tree

This is, in my opinion, the best of the turtle designs. It's creative and doesn't lean on a pop culture reference. Good job!

odysseyroc wrote:Judging by shirt.what, he's had 2 removed designs that weren't rejected. I don't know how accurate their archive is, but doesn't sound like that's enough to skew the average.

There are things missing from the Ramy archive. Two right off the top of my head include his Apple/Windows entry from this derby (which is listed on shirt.what) and his original Calvin and Hobbes entry from the Prehistoric Derby (which is not listed on shirt.what). His second C&H entry that was rejected is there though.

*EDIT* Which is not to say that shirt.what isn't a super-valuable resource, because it is. Just pointing out that there are designs that aren't listed on that site. Didn't wanna step on anyone's toes.

Re: Taco Tuesday and the Terrified Toilet

Color me surprised that this didn't get rejected for potty humor, but I'm not disappointed, I think it's funny.

Much of this conversation reminds me of some sports conversations:

"My team lost more games, but they're still the better team."

To which I reply, isn't winning more games what determines a better team by definition?

Re: THE TRUE father TIME

Thanks Midge and Jesse! Glad you two enjoy it

And yeah, I probably should of put more in the thumbnail. I always want to put a limited amount in the thumbnail... enough to get people to click it but still keep a lot hidden so there will be some surprise when they view the bigger image. Probably not the best tactic, but that is how I like it

It'd be better on the white shirt.

profbrendan wrote:There are things missing from the Ramy archive. Two right off the top of my head include his Apple/Windows entry from this derby (which is listed on shirt.what) and his original Calvin and Hobbes entry from the Prehistoric Derby (which is not listed on shirt.what). His second C&H entry that was rejected is there though.

*EDIT* Which is not to say that shirt.what isn't a super-valuable resource, because it is. Just pointing out that there are designs that aren't listed on that site. Didn't wanna step on anyone's toes.

http://shirtwhat.com/archive_a.php?artist=ramyb&derby=&rejected=0&removed=0&sort=D

Both of those shirts are on shirtwhat...

Besides this point, chances are extremely good that Ramy is a cheater who has many accounts and votes for his own designs multiple times. Obviously other people like his designs too, however, I am a strong believer that he gives himself a significant head start.

triatomico wrote:Much of this conversation reminds me of some sports conversations:

"My team lost more games, but they're still the better team."

To which I reply, isn't winning more games what determines a better team by definition?

Sure, until you find out about point shaving in basketball, fighters taking dives, Pete Rosing betting on games he was managing, etc. The integrity of the system is the thing in question here. Your analogy assumes that rules were enforced and adhered to. Certain people have a questionable past and a history of rigging votes (which isn't too hard to do in a contest like this), why should they get the benefit of the doubt?

triatomico wrote:Much of this conversation reminds me of some sports conversations:

"My team lost more games, but they're still the better team."

To which I reply, isn't winning more games what determines a better team by definition?

Is the better team cheating? Stealing other teams' plays? I'm not saying that this shirt or artist cheats. Just speaking hypothetically, trying to understand the argument in context.

garnetfirebird wrote:Also, ideas are not protected under copyright law.

You don't really understand what the "intellectual" in intellectual property means, do you?

Intellectual property (IP) is a term referring to a number of distinct types of creations of the mind for which a set of exclusive rights are recognized.

Specifically, one of the "Primary Rights" of IP is Copyright. Any questions, class?

Re: Ticking Time V2

Updated the time issue. Even though I can work 16 hours, 16 hours won't work on a clock.

Re: Time Travel'n Tough Guy

I see too many colors: Black, white, orange, light blue, 2 reds and 2 tans. Unless you are using half tones, woot can't do this; they have an upper limit of 6 inks.

Are the half tones there, and I just missed them?

triatomico wrote:Much of this conversation reminds me of some sports conversations:

"My team lost more games, but they're still the better team."

To which I reply, isn't winning more games what determines a better team by definition?

Three things.

One, sports are mostly objective: stats are determined by facts, points, assists, you name it. Art is largely subjective. To a certain point, you can say that one artist is more proficient or better skilled than another. That makes sense. But when you have two highly accomplished and talented artists, the determination of who is better becomes one of opinion and taste, not fact.

Two, sales don't inherently equal quality. Some of the best selling art in the world is seen as hackneyed garbage by people who "know" art (see Thomas Kinkade). That's true in the shirt world too.

Three, there are many allegations of cheating directed towards RamyB (I know, stop the presses, right?), and while I'm not going to pretend I know the truth, it's been happening for a long time and there's a lot of evidence for those who want to read it. It could certainly be argued that a sports figure that cheats in order to win is certainly not superior, otherwise we would look at Barry Bonds and Tonya Harding with complete admiration.

Re: TIKI

I'd love this to make a push for the top...I want to own this shirt.

Hopefully at LEAST a Monorable Mention.

dmsohyea wrote:http://shirtwhat.com/archive_a.php?artist=ramyb&derby=&rejected=0&removed=0&sort=D

Both of those shirts are on shirtwhat...

Apple/Windows, yes.
Calvin and Hobbes, no.
You will see one Prehistoric Calvin and Hobbes-related entry on shirt.what, the one with the big REJECTED stamp on it. That's the one he didn't pull. What you don't see is the original version he did, which he removed, which is not on shirt.what. If you saw it when it was briefly in that derby, you know what I'm talking about.

profbrendan wrote:Apple/Windows, yes.
Calvin and Hobbes, no.
You will see one Prehistoric Calvin and Hobbes-related entry on shirt.what, the one with the big REJECTED stamp on it. That's the one he didn't pull. What you don't see is the original version he did, which he removed, which is not on shirt.what. If you saw it when it was briefly in that derby, you know what I'm talking about.

I wonder if the people at shirt.what were unable to save the image before he deleted it. It was only up for a couple days and probably caused the biggest stink I've ever seen on an entry.

Re: Tandem

Please Win! I want this shirt so bad!

Re: Taxidermed Two-headed Tramp

The design is very creative and you did quality work. I just feel like this would not be a very wearable shirt; at least I can't see myself wearing it.

dmsohyea wrote:I wonder if the people at shirt.what were unable to save the image before he deleted it. It was only up for a couple days and probably caused the biggest stink I've ever seen on an entry.

It was up for less than 12 hours.

Re: Tongue Twister

That's the one tongue twister I have the most trouble with....

Re: Thomas, the Eye of Sodor

GMPV!

Srsly, I like it. My son was a big Thomas the Tank lover. (Of course he also loved Barney but he staunchly denies that these days.) Oh and he also loves his Pi shirt. Thanks again.

Re: Time

This is an excellent idea. Voted.

Ideas for improvement: Maybe have 2 rows of icons, one for AM and one for PM, and have the icons correlate more closely with the times shown (roughly 6-8 hours spent in bed, etc).

mjc613 wrote:I see too many colors: Black, white, orange, light blue, 2 reds and 2 tans. Unless you are using half tones, woot can't do this; they have an upper limit of 6 inks.

Are the half tones there, and I just missed them?

Ah nuts your'e right! I must have lost count as I was playing with different Shirt colors and never corrected it.

I feel a big rejection stamp coming up.

BRING IT! IM NOT SCARED OF YOUR BIG CRAPTASTIC RED STAMP!!!!!!!

Anywho, it's not like like im in the fog or anywhere near it. Hell Fry only has six votes. lol

Thanks for the six of you out there who understood the shirt. Say bye to our little friend.

lovepuff wrote:It's a funny illustration, but who the hell would actually want to wear this?

Now 4 people would wear the TP shirt! Wahooooo :P

kylemittskus wrote:You don't really understand what the "intellectual" in intellectual property means, do you?

"Copyright does not protect ideas, concepts, systems, or methods of doing something. You may express your ideas in writing or drawings and claim copyright in your description, but be aware that copyright will not protect the idea itself as revealed in your written or artistic work."

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html

Re: Tribal Tea

Promise, last pun from me this round.

odysseyroc wrote:Judging by shirt.what, he's had 2 removed designs that weren't rejected. I don't know how accurate their archive is, but doesn't sound like that's enough to skew the average.

The artist part of the archive on shirt.what is rather new and the rejected/removed reports are not completely accurate. Some of the entries I've removed to resub have shown up as rejected before.

DianaSprinkle wrote:The artist part of the archive on shirt.what is rather new and the rejected/removed reports are not completely accurate. Some of the entries I've removed to resub have shown up as rejected before.

CURSE YOU SPRINKLE!!
I'm on to your little game!