bluejester wrote:I believe that you meant to say paramount
Also, other people have stated more eloquently, more kindly, and more succintly than you have the problems with this shirt.
You want Ramyb to stop posting stuff here or to try harder? Then stop insulting every other person on this website who doesn't agree exactly with your tastes. Yes, this design has numerous flaws. Yes, it does show laziness in both artistry and concept. But know this, you will never come across as more than a common internet troll, despite your essay length verbosity, if you don't tone down your rhetoric and vitriol towards not just Ramyb, but towards your fellow human beings.
Tantamount implies that nothing should be higher, as well. You can have other beliefs which come up to and meet quality, but that should never supersede. Quality can be paramount, and I feel that is a sound way to judge, but it should always be at least as important as any other justification for voting. There is no excuse for anything else. No one should be voting for designs which do not have quality equal to any other positive element. Ideally, quality should also be the top element.
Nothing I do will get rid of Ramy. That needs to be woot's job. But if you cannot grasp how that is wrong, I have nothing to say to you. If people are wrong, and if people are wrong in ways that no educated person can justify, they do not deserve respect. If you believe the world is flat, I am not going to coddle you, and this is no different. There are facts at play, and people ARE WRONG. It is not my opinion. I have stated over and over again all the myriad reasons. And what it all boils down to is simply this: there is no excuse for Ramy to be here. Factual. Based on huge evidence. Irrefutable evidence. And by irrefutable, I mean like how climate change is irrefutable: there's always going to be someone who insists otherwise, but the evidence is so overwhelmingly against them that they should be ashamed.
You note something very important: problems with this shirt. But this shirt is not the problem. It is one more symptom. This shirt should be rejected, and people have noted this. But if it doesn't, they'll move on. And that is why nothing changes. That is why we've gotten to the point of this. I am no less eloquent, but far more angry, because I care about this stopping. Not rejecting this shirt so much as rejecting the sort of mediocrity and laxness and all-around ignoring of rules that allows this. Rejecting the culture of "if it makes money, it is good" and the culture of "I know it's lazy and I don't care." If this shirt gets rejected, and it should, it is not a victory. It starts again next week. the same disrespect for theme, the same disrespect for quality, the same disrespect for originality.
That is why I respect those who deserve it and disrespect those who do not (and if you haven't seen both, and often to the same person, you have had intentional blinders on). If you are a parent, you don't not scold your kid when they're wrong, and that is someone you're supposed to care about deeply. Strangers, not so much. This is a huge cultural flaw, and we as a culture need to fight it. Glorifying and respecting a culture of artistic mediocrity leads to accepting all mediocrity. It leads to us seeing a problem and saying "that's how it is" instead of fixing it. It leads to people who consider education elitist, because education opens our minds and fosters our creative endeavors. It leads to a death of culture: art has always relied on money, but never before has the money trumped the actual art to such a degree.
Trolls exist to stir the pot. I exist because the world deserves more, and if it cannot be brought about in a small community, it is futile. I refuse to believe that. It's very simple to understand. The majority of artists here understand what I am here for. You do not. And it is clear why. You see this as one design, and I see this one design as one more reason there needs to be HUGE reform here, because it's one example in hundreds, for this user alone, let alone the derby at large, let alone in his "artistic career" in general. There is far more at stake here. You don't care about that bigger picture. You care about this, maybe, but you are ignoring what it means, and what needs to be done to prevent it from happening again. You may never understand that, and it is not my job to change your mind or anyone's. That is not how change works. It requires the boldness to do what is right, even at the risk of offending people who will never understand, for the sake of producing a generation that can say "I can't believe we ever really believed that people did that." Will our society ever care about woot in 50 years? I doubt it'll even still exist by the time I'm dead. But again, this is about the bigger picture. If we can fix it at woot, we can make strides to fix it throughout the arts, and if we can do that, we can begin chipping away at the culture of mediocrity and greed inherent in our modern world. In our current economy, it is insulting to everyone to allow people to make scads of money with no work involved.