CapSea wrote:Cool, I started a trend. Probably a good idea to try to promote those to people other than the artists you're competing against though =).
No good artist is competing against any other good artist in any way that would make such promotion a bad idea. The general consensus among talented people is that it is absolutely fine to lose so long as the loss is to someone talented and work which is good enough to justify it.
The fact is that certain people are weekly shown to be off theme, regularly steal work, have zero desire to put effort into their work, and win regularly. You can argue that this is on the up and up, but all that implies is that the voters have no understanding of how to vote, and that's even worse. You can argue that there is never an off theme design unrejected, never a design stolen from either a popular trademarked character or a former shirt, and always the most creative, best done tees winning. Evidence exists in spades against certain users. It's not just that people hate them. People hate them because of the evidence they have provided time and time again. (oh, and to note: Cho was hated because he won so damn much and did work of a higher caliber than most. He also had the occasional piss-fit when he saw absolutely terrible work winning and his own lamenting nowhere near the top. If he was hated for anything, it was likely for being insurmountable competition in a young contest while not accepting the idea of mediocre work trouncing work he put hours into).
It's also fact that multiple accounts exist. So if Travis or Joel or Snapster (but then, Snapster shouldn't be trusted to carry an egg across a kitchen without dropping it, let alone to tell the truth) says someone isn't cheating, what does that mean? They don't have more than one fake voting account? Not more than five? They have up to 100, but their shirts sell well enough that this number isn't considered an issue? If EVEN ONE VOTING ACCOUNT exists, it can effect a whole derby. We know these exist. People have admitted to them. People have posted on their fake accounts in ways that made their real identities obvious. Woot hasn't done anything to stop it. So woot not being concerned, and woot treating every user equally (which is blatantly not true if you watch the derby with an honest mind for a month), doesn't necessarily mean no one is cheating. They're just not cheating in ways woot is concerned about, or else not cheating so much that it is outside the realm that some others are cheating.
And on that topic, really guys, would I ever use the word "anymore" as sloppily as that other dude did? The cult of "too long didn't read" fails again, because actually reading would have made it obvious. It's more indicative of how pathetic and scared this community is when it comes to defending itself that there is a belief that only I could hold such opinions than it is indicative of my being wrong. the people who flat-out disagree with me are usually also the people who have been regularly caught selling other people's work as their own, and admitted they were here not for the creation, but for the win. History proves that, though proving that history myself would never be allowed to remain posted. History proves a lot of things. There are users that legit artists only talk about like they'd talk about a yipping dog. There are sites that legit users all, to a wo/man, consider a laughingstock. There are incidents we all remember and just never bring up (or else are deleted/probated when we do). Who are you trying to fool implying only one person can see all that? ESPECIALLY people who have only been here but briefly.