chumpmagic wrote:lots of stuff
I'm not sure if my argument wasn't clear the first time because I think we are having two different conversations. I'll try to explain again what I was saying in the first place, because I'm not trying to fight with you here and understand your point.
This here is three photos taken directly from the comments of the shirt on three different monitors (borrowed a laptop from a friend to do this)- all were taken in the exact same lighting, same camera, no flash, no color modifications. All three of these are supposed to represent pantone colors. They are slightly blurry but it is extremely clear that each is very very different in color. Now tell me- which one is the accurate one? Which one represents how this shirt will print? Because if one of these two is the "correct" one, then one of these three people will see the shirt as it will print, and two others will see a "misleading" representation. Whether you choose pantone colors or not, monitor settings and calibration and screen type, as well as the backlighting, room lighting, etc. will all have an enormous impact on the way that a design is perceived. Therefore, pantone colors or not, the design will appear a little bit different from how it will print. It is not a matter of laziness- a conversion to pantone colors takes about four seconds to do in photoshop. I choose the colors I think look best for a design, and woot usually doesn't let me down when it comes to replicating what I was hoping to achieve. I have no problems using pantone colors in my submissions if woot makes a rule about it, but I don't see a reason to do so when the result is colors that look even less like what the finished product will be on my screen. I used to do the pantone conversions myself, but have found that woot does a better job than i do of adjusting for colors, and sometimes makes modifications that I would never have thought of that lead to great results that come as close to my original vision as possible.