tgentry


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taternuggets wrote:You nailed it with "confusing."

And ironically... it was the "clarifying" rule that made it so.

At least I think that's irony... I'm often wrong on that.



We've spent the last hour discussing it and we came to the conclusion that you're %100 right.

In my attempt to clarify what I thought was a fairly clear derby I just made things worse, so I apologize. I should have seen the problems inherent with ruling out landmarks to "imaginary" places while allowing fanciful,interesting architecture as the rules describe it. Quite simply, this wasn't part of the original rules and is nearly impossible to enforce given the conflicting logic in the rules and my "clarification".

So my clarification is retracted. Go nuts. I know this will cause frustration on the part of people who avoided certain subjects, and for that I apologize again. You can voice your frustrations directly to my email if you like: tgentry@woot.com.

DianaSprinkle


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Johndis5 wrote:Then you obviously go by what the actual post said. It's not very hard, you go by what the art director says and not by what the mod who QPed his post said. Unless you are intentionally being confused so that you can go ahead and do what you want, I don't understand how anyone with the reading comprehension of a fourth grader couldn't figure it out.



In my experience woot is never as strict as some people believe. So saying "Just read their words, what are you are stupid?" is really hilariously not helpful when it's clear that people can and DO read them differently all the time, including woot itself.

Johndis5


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DianaSprinkle wrote:In my experience woot is never as strict as some people believe. So saying "Just read their words, what are you are stupid?" is really hilariously not helpful when it's clear that people can and DO read them differently all the time, including woot itself.



Point taken, especially about woot not even knowing what their own words mean. I retract my snark.

blanked


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tgentry wrote:We've spent the last hour discussing it and we came to the conclusion that you're %100 right.

In my attempt to clarify what I thought was a fairly clear derby I just made things worse, so I apologize. I should have seen the problems inherent with ruling out landmarks to "imaginary" places while allowing fanciful,interesting architecture as the rules describe it. Quite simply, this wasn't part of the original rules and is nearly impossible to enforce given the conflicting logic in the rules and my "clarification".

So my clarification is retracted. Go nuts. I know this will cause frustration on the part of people who avoided certain subjects, and for that I apologize again. You can voice your frustrations directly to my email if you like: tgentry@woot.com.



I'm one of the ones who thought it was clear. Give a real location a new monument, new as in they don't have it nor does anyone else. So monuments to fiction in a real place connected to it would be fine, but giving wonderland a monument to sanity wouldn't.
Course I'm not an artist, so I don't have the stress of figuring out if MY idea fits. That makes a big difference.

jcflman


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tgentry wrote:You can voice your frustrations directly to my email if you like: tgentry@woot.com.



Thanks, this is very nice of you. I have SO MANY things in my life frustrating me right now you won't believe it! It's nice knowing someone cares and is willing to listen. I have a feeling we might become close friends after all is said and done. Thanks again.

JenXer74


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tgentry wrote:So my clarification is retracted. Go nuts.



Don't mind if I do! ;P



grahamcrackercoyote


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I still predict Rejectionator carnage. Too many of the designs DO NOT have an architectural element and too many others are just doing cute shirts of landmarks that exist.

citizencoyote


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DianaSprinkle wrote:I ate a cake like this once. Red velvet cake with surprise red food coloring gel in the cake at random. I think this is pretty cute.

Though the street in Austin that leads to the capital "Congress" doesn't have islands in the center of the street(I think it has 6 lanes but that's not super important.)



Wow, and here I thought I was the only one who had ever had a red velvet dead armadillo cake! I personally find chocolate Borg cakes much tastier.

I'm guessing it's not the current Congress Avenue that's represented, but a new, raised viaduct.

reganrabbit


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citizencoyote wrote:Wow, and here I thought I was the only one who had ever had a red velvet dead armadillo cake! I personally find chocolate Borg cakes much tastier.

I'm guessing it's not the current Congress Avenue that's represented, but a new, raised viaduct.



Dude, I didn't realize so many Austin people were wootin' here. I'm up in Round Rock (quickly decided not to do the large, round rock landmark design). We should all meet dressed as our bizarre woot avatars

citizencoyote


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reganrabbit wrote:Dude, I didn't realize so many Austin people were wootin' here. I'm up in Round Rock (quickly decided not to do the large, round rock landmark design). We should all meet dressed as our bizarre woot avatars



There are a surprising number of us, including several artists! Must be that whole music-y, creative vibe.

Hmm... maybe my "Fred Flintstone in Drag" avatar would make a good Halloween costume.

blk909


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ac604 wrote:Request for some California landmarks! SF perhaps? What landmarks do we Californians even have?



Golden Gate bridge
Sutter's Fort
Half Dome & El Capitan
The Hollywood sign
In Davis, it's the water tower

heysammyk


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Keep Avatars weird! :D

crazydoglady


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grahamcrackercoyote wrote:I still predict Rejectionator carnage. Too many of the designs DO NOT have an architectural element and too many others are just doing cute shirts of landmarks that exist.



I don't know about the Rejectionator but I am a little disappointed that there aren't more designs that are "architectural". There's lots of good-looking stuff but most of it looks like designs for souvenir t-shirts in a gift shop or at the register of a popular restaurant - logos and symbols. Ah, well, if I just forget about the theme there are several that I like a lot!

j5


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crazydoglady wrote:...Ah, well, if I just forget about the theme there are several that I like a lot!


That's probably the best approach to take in general. Keeps the stress levels down.

move along

grahamcrackercoyote


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j5 wrote:That's probably the best approach to take in general. Keeps the stress levels down.



Too true. I usually end up defending designs that bend the rules, but this one is kinda all over the place. A big concern of mine is with late rejections - if the Rejectionator was more with it on the weekend, things might be better.

crazydoglady


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j5 wrote:That's probably the best approach to take in general. Keeps the stress levels down.



LOL - yeah, this is supposed to be my "break from reality" activity! Usually I am in awe of what the artists do with the theme; each artist puts their own interpretation but (with a few outliers) one can look at the entries and the theme is obvious. This time - not a clue. I think everyone is putting too much energy into trying to identify the locale of their fictional landmark and not enough focus on the landmark itself. For example, if I'd never heard of the Space Needle and someone asked me where I thought it was, I would say Houston because of NASA and the space program. But the Space Needle IS the Seattle skyline - the egg/chicken thing.
So - off the top of my head I can think of 3 or 4 states that claim to have the biggest mosquitos in the country, but if there was a giant mosquito on the shores of a lake, with green corrugated fiberglass wings to shade the picnickers on the mosquito's back and stairs up the leg (with a landing at the knee) and the blood-sucker thing is a slide for the kids into the lake... if that landmark was built ANYWHERE, pretty soon the "Monster Mosquito" would become a landmark for wherever it was built. Or... there's a Watermelon Seed Spitting Contest every year in Luling, Texas. Where? Exactly! So the artist could take a lot of effort to identify Luling (a barbecue joint, a historic railroad station, a few oil derricks) and then put a landmark in the center, but then the design is about Luling - which limits its appeal and is not about the architecture of the landmark. But a diner or motel in the shape of a watermelon wedge with a high, steep roof (maybe a standing-seam metal roof painted red) and oval tinted "seed" windows and... hmmm, a pile of "seeds" as an outbuilding... central Texas folks would get it but it everyone would appreciate it.
Sorry - I am not an artist (I don't even consider myself creative) but I don't want to just whine "I expected more" without putting effort into defining what I hoped to see.
Still keeping an open mind though!

sprengermon


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I would love to see a design of billboard exit of a huge Google maps pointer. "Worlds Biggest Pointer 77 miles...."

grahamcrackercoyote


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crazydoglady wrote:LOL - yeah, this is supposed to be my "break from reality" activity! Usually I am in awe of what the artists do with the theme; each artist puts their own interpretation but (with a few outliers) one can look at the entries and the theme is obvious. This time - not a clue. I think everyone is putting too much energy into trying to identify the locale of their fictional landmark and not enough focus on the landmark itself. For example, if I'd never heard of the Space Needle and someone asked me where I thought it was, I would say Houston because of NASA and the space program. But the Space Needle IS the Seattle skyline - the egg/chicken thing.
So - off the top of my head I can think of 3 or 4 states that claim to have the biggest mosquitos in the country, but if there was a giant mosquito on the shores of a lake, with green corrugated fiberglass wings to shade the picnickers on the mosquito's back and stairs up the leg (with a landing at the knee) and the blood-sucker thing is a slide for the kids into the lake... if that landmark was built ANYWHERE, pretty soon the "Monster Mosquito" would become a landmark for wherever it was built. Or... there's a Watermelon Seed Spitting Contest every year in Luling, Texas. Where? Exactly! So the artist could take a lot of effort to identify Luling (a barbecue joint, a historic railroad station, a few oil derricks) and then put a landmark in the center, but then the design is about Luling - which limits its appeal and is not about the architecture of the landmark. But a diner or motel in the shape of a watermelon wedge with a high, steep roof (maybe a standing-seam metal roof painted red) and oval tinted "seed" windows and... hmmm, a pile of "seeds" as an outbuilding... central Texas folks would get it but it everyone would appreciate it.
Sorry - I am not an artist (I don't even consider myself creative) but I don't want to just whine "I expected more" without putting effort into defining what I hoped to see.
Still keeping an open mind though!



I'm a big roadside attraction fan and this derby is disappointing so far. Somehow, the LANDMARKS seem to be left out.

crazydoglady


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grahamcrackercoyote wrote:I'm a big roadside attraction fan and this derby is disappointing so far. Somehow, the LANDMARKS seem to be left out.



yes, disappointing is the word that comes to mind for me, too - I expected almost nothing from Household Chores and it turned out to be fun, this is pffttt. On the bright side, now I can go back and buy 1 or 2 older shirts that I'd passed over due to other purchases (since I don't foresee me buying anything from this derby)

rahbi


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Where is RamyB? As far as I know he has not submitted a design yet.


Narfcake


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rahbi wrote:Where is RamyB? As far as I know he has not submitted a design yet.



7 Rejected Wonders of the World

Dolemite


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This is my first design. Please be gentle. It's a somewhat obscure reference to Pee-Wee's Big Adventure.

tobefonseca


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Does someone know if my derby design didn't get into 3 most voted, woot can pick it to be printed in another days?

coffeegrace


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I wish I could do halftones. Is there any way to do it with Corel Painter Essentials? Any advice is appreciated. :-)

no1


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tobefonseca wrote:Does someone know if my derby design didn't get into 3 most voted, woot can pick it to be printed in another days?



if it gets picked for an honorable mention after the derby ends, it will reappear in a "do-over" derby, which happens roughly four times a year, and in which it will get another shot at being in the top three. after that, woot may choose to print it from among the "do-over" entries, during "editor's choice" week.


pandamonium long sleeve tee YAY MEDIOCRITY!

tobefonseca


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no1 wrote:if it gets picked for an honorable mention after the derby ends, it will reappear in a "do-over" derby, which happens roughly four times a year, and in which it will get another shot at being in the top three. after that, woot may choose to print it from among the "do-over" entries, during "editor's choice" week.



Thanks so much.

tobefonseca


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coffeegrace wrote:I wish I could do halftones. Is there any way to do it with Corel Painter Essentials? Any advice is appreciated. :-)



Take a look on this link

http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?22270-Halftones-in-CorelDRAW-10-11

http://coreldraw.com/wikis/howto/corel-draw-halftone.aspx

I have no clue if it gonna work on painter, but maybe can help you. :]

I do my halftones on Photoshop, I think it's easier.

coffeegrace


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tobefonseca wrote:Take a look on this link

http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?22270-Halftones-in-CorelDRAW-10-11

http://coreldraw.com/wikis/howto/corel-draw-halftone.aspx

I have no clue if it gonna work on painter, but maybe can help you. :]

I do my halftones on Photoshop, I think it's easier.



Unfortunately they don't seem to work on Painter. Thank you though! I need to look into getting Photshop.

no1


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coffeegrace wrote:Unfortunately they don't seem to work on Painter. Thank you though! I need to look into getting Photshop.



while there may be copies of photoshop floating out there on the net, the gimp is also available as a poor man's (iow, free to use) version of photoshop. beware the sometimes steep learning curve, though.


pandamonium long sleeve tee YAY MEDIOCRITY!

Dynasty471


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What happened to stairway to heaven?

j5


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Dynasty471 wrote:What happened to stairway to heaven?



rejected/ removed/ resubbed

move along

coffeegrace


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no1 wrote:while there may be copies of photoshop floating out there on the net, the gimp is also available as a poor man's (iow, free to use) version of photoshop. beware the sometimes steep learning curve, though.



You know, I do have gimp. I should try that. I wasn't using it because I was worried about the colors not being "official". But now that I have Corel (came with my tablet), I found an image of the pantone swatches and have been getting my colors from that with the eyedropper. Thanks!

drewpac18


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grahamcrackercoyote wrote:I still predict Rejectionator carnage. Too many of the designs DO NOT have an architectural element and too many others are just doing cute shirts of landmarks that exist.



You got that right, but there are still several designs, even up at the top, that don't meet the "man-made" or "architectural" guidelines. I know I found this theme perplexing (because I tend to not enjoy drawing buildings, structures, etc.), so maybe that's true for many others.

sunaness


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Man oh man does this derby annoy me. Mainly for what crazydoglady said, but for the weird implementation of the rejectionator as well.

I'm going to (continue to) wait until next derby comes around~

no1


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sunaness wrote:Man oh man does this derby annoy me. Mainly for what crazydoglady said, but for the weird implementation of the rejectionator as well.



i can't wait for rejectionator 2.0.5 service pack 2 build 332!


pandamonium long sleeve tee YAY MEDIOCRITY!

Dolemite


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Is anyone else having trouble with uploading? I get a message that says "The resource you are looking for has been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable."

I was hoping to get one more shot before the deadline.

DianaSprinkle


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Dolemite wrote:Is anyone else having trouble with uploading? I get a message that says "The resource you are looking for has been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable."

I was hoping to get one more shot before the deadline.



Huh, that does sound weird. The only thing I can suggest is to not upload the print file when you try to submit and instead email it. The other two files should go up fine but for some reason there seems to be trouble with the print file uploads... of course I'm not sure if this is the same issue you are having but it's worth a try.

Please also send woot a message here: service@woot.com explaining your trouble.

Dolemite


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Turns out the PSD was too big. Strange error for a simple mistake.

Oh well. I got my corny shirt in right at the last second: The Giant Clothespin of Intercourse, PA.

DianaSprinkle wrote:Huh, that does sound weird. The only thing I can suggest is to not upload the print file when you try to submit and instead email it. The other two files should go up fine but for some reason there seems to be trouble with the print file uploads... of course I'm not sure if this is the same issue you are having but it's worth a try.

Please also send woot a message here: service@woot.com explaining your trouble.



cmoborough


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Dolemite wrote:Turns out the PSD was too big. Strange error for a simple mistake.

Oh well. I got my corny shirt in right at the last second: The Giant Clothespin of Intercourse, PA.



Springfield!....your votes are showing!

ISO30


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Hmm... I guess the "fog" is now the top 8?