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Time again for another march toward t-shirt doom! Discuss this week's life-or-death struggle for sales supremacy as chronicled on the Reckoning page all week long.

Here's how the Reckoning week runs now: every Tuesday at midnight, we retire the previous week's lowest-selling shirts and launch this here discussion thread. Tuesday around noon we'll post the all-new, all-early Reckoning Recon. On Friday, we'll juice demand and prime the pump with a little weekend reminder post. Finally, on the following Monday, the Day of Reckoning post sounds the last call for the Reckoned shirts. All of those posts will be linked below. Monday night (or Tuesday morning), it starts all over again. The Reckoning, she is a hungry beast...



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dcroe05


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Narfcake couldn't be here this evening. He and his short, brainy friend are out doing...well, I can't tell you what they're doing...but it's the same thing they do every night...Try to take over the world.

Baseline numbers!

Legend: (Baseline rank) Shirt Name - baseline sales numbers.
(1) The Dark Knight - 10722
(2) Family Breakfast - 11382
(3) Unstealthiest Ninja II: The Unstealthening - 4404
(4) Makin’ Bread - 7331
(5) Code of Arms - 3822
(6) Run Away! Run Away! - 9969
(7) The Birthplace of Inspiration - 3629
(8) Unstealthiest Ninja - 13538
(9) The Binge - 54612
(10) Caffeine Power Up - 3730
(11) Meatatarian - 5527
(12) A Wild Night - 3567
(13) They See Me Rollin' - 3108
(14) Inevitable Betrayal - 5179
(15) It Came Out Of Nowhere - 36275
(16) He’ll Probably Be Okay - 9717
(17) Nevermore - 45369
(18) Kitchen Warfare - 12643
(19) Schrödinger’s Equation - 6629
(20) If a tree falls in the woods - 5004
(21) Using Your Melon - 2588
(22) Acquired Taste - 20580
(23) Ugly Holiday Sweater 2011 - 7410
(24) Historical Inspiration - 2279
(25) Jump For It - 1366
(26) Alphabeasts - 1305
(27) I Want to Fly - 948
(91) Motivation - 4317

Daily Sales Rates are for informational purposes only and are not 100% accurate.
1. The Dark Knight - Approx. 52.56 real time DSR; 40.36 Woot-based DSR
2. Family Breakfast - Approx. 38.65 real time DSR; 29.68 Woot-based DSR
3. Unstealthiest Ninja II: The Unstealthening - Approx. 35.59 real time DSR; 25.74 Woot-based DSR
4. Makin’ Bread - Approx. 32.05 real time DSR; 24.61 Woot-based DSR
5. Code of Arms - Approx. 33.75 real time DSR; 21.89 Woot-based DSR
6. Run Away! Run Away! - Approx. 26.09 real time DSR; 20.04 Woot-based DSR
7. The Birthplace of Inspiration - Approx. 62.67 real time DSR; 19.79 Woot-based DSR
8. Unstealthiest Ninja - Approx. 24.05 real time DSR; 18.46 Woot-based DSR
9. The Binge - Approx. 23.49 real time DSR; 18.04 Woot-based DSR
10. Caffeine Power Up - Approx. 23.26 real time DSR; 17.86 Woot-based DSR
11. Meatatarian - Approx. 23.02 real time DSR; 17.68 Woot-based DSR
12. A Wild Night - Approx. 28.6 real time DSR; 17.33 Woot-based DSR
13. They See Me Rollin' - Approx. 28.57 real time DSR; 14.81 Woot-based DSR
14. Inevitable Betrayal - Approx. 18.98 real time DSR; 14.57 Woot-based DSR
15. It Came Out Of Nowhere - Approx. 18.6 real time DSR; 14.29 Woot-based DSR
16. He’ll Probably Be Okay - Approx. 17.81 real time DSR; 13.68 Woot-based DSR
17. Nevermore - Approx. 17.21 real time DSR; 13.21 Woot-based DSR
18. Kitchen Warfare - Approx. 17.16 real time DSR; 13.18 Woot-based DSR
19. Schrödinger’s Equation - Approx. 16.23 real time DSR; 12.46 Woot-based DSR
20. If a tree falls in the woods - Approx. 15.53 real time DSR; 11.93 Woot-based DSR
21. Using Your Melon - Approx. 29.75 real time DSR; 11.33 Woot-based DSR
22. Acquired Taste - Approx. 14.88 real time DSR; 11.43 Woot-based DSR
23. Ugly Holiday Sweater 2011 - Approx. 13.77 real time DSR; 10.57 Woot-based DSR
24. Historical Inspiration - Approx. 22.6 real time DSR; 9.83 Woot-based DSR
25. Jump For It - Approx. 30.5 real time DSR; 7.18 Woot-based DSR
26. Alphabeasts - Approx. 11 real time DSR; 5.28 Woot-based DSR
27. I Want to Fly - Approx. 40 real time DSR; 5.33 Woot-based DSR
91. Motivation - Approx. n/a real time DSR; n/a Woot-based DSR

- Zombies and Fallen Trees in danger.
- An Ugly Sweater plummets.
- 2 noobs start the week safe, and the melon head is likely to follow.
- And with the crazy holiday sales almost a memory, it looks like the DSRs are back to familiar territory.

lonelypond


quality posts: 240 Private Messages lonelypond

And we have the annual post holiday plummet for your annual ugly holiday sweater.

It's also kind of fun watching the Unstealthiest Ninja II creep slowly, nay almost stealthily up the charts.

bluejester


quality posts: 530 Private Messages bluejester

Please Nevermore, I beg of you, just hold on for a few more weeks.

kkcryptic


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Nevermore doesn't deserve to hold on for even one more week! It's probably the worst shirt that has ever graced shirt.woot.

(That should give it at least an extra week or two, right?)


On a side note: does when you buy a shirt have any effect on the shirt's place in the reckoning? For instance, if I were to buy a shirt on Sunday would it have more, less, or the same effect as if I had bought it earlier, say on Tuesday?

Spudsy2061


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I don't get how Acquired Taste plummeted. Is it really not as good a shirt in the woot community's eyes compared to say a standard cliche like Caffine Power Up or A Wild Night? Also one would think that if it's the Chemistry geeks were keeping Caffine Power Up alive then are Physicists too narly (yes I did just drop that word in there) and smart for our simple cat? I am neither a Chemist nor a Physicist but I'd rather have a dead cat on my t-shirt than a bunch of molecules (offense not meant just stating as my preference). I mean seriously, who wears a dead cat on them?


kkcryptic wrote:On a side note: does when you buy a shirt have any effect on the shirt's place in the reckoning? For instance, if I were to buy a shirt on Sunday would it have more, less, or the same effect as if I had bought it earlier, say on Tuesday?




Probably the same but for example if a certain shirt sold 1/4 of it's quantity say on Friday then you'd probably see it high in chart until Friday rolls around when the sales from the Friday from 4 weeks past is no longer relevant in the shirt's standing.

ArdillaCiega


quality posts: 7 Private Messages ArdillaCiega

Is it really possible that next week, there will be no patrickspens shirts available? When's the last time that happened?!

Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.

ArdillaCiega


quality posts: 7 Private Messages ArdillaCiega
ArdillaCiega wrote:Is it really possible that next week, there will be no patrickspens shirts available? When's the last time that happened?!



That was actually a rhetorical question, but I thought I'd see if I could figure it out; I'm pretty sure it was day of reckoning #138: april 5, 2010, in case anyone else was wondering.

Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.

citizencoyote


quality posts: 42 Private Messages citizencoyote
ArdillaCiega wrote:Is it really possible that next week, there will be no patrickspens shirts available? When's the last time that happened?!



It doesn't have to be that way! Save the zombies! They deserve to see their one-year anniversary!

gricomet


quality posts: 35 Private Messages gricomet

Wow Zombies are in the hole right now, that is a bad DSR. It is the type of shirt that is likely to get people trying to save it though. I'm thinking of finally taking the plunge myself.

Narfcake


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Thanks for covering for me, DCRoe! Nothing says a fun evening like working late, then come home and continue working on removing the transmission from your car; it wasn't the slave cylinder, but rather, a cracked clutch fork.

So sorry to Jas, Patrick, and Keith for NOT pulling my usual stunt last night.

Spudsy2061 wrote:...
Probably the same but for example if a certain shirt sold 1/4 of it's quantity say on Friday then you'd probably see it high in chart until Friday rolls around when the sales from the Friday from 4 weeks past is no longer relevant in the shirt's standing.



My earliest attempt at the ranking mistakenly presumed that too. It's NOT a rolling 4 week schedule, but rather, the 4 weeks is total. For this week, the basis is from December 19; it's day 22 now ("real time" DSR), and 28 days will elapse ("Woot based" DSR) when this period closes.

grahamcrackercoyote


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Holy turbunguin poop, Batman, Nevermore is currently at #18!

dcroe05


quality posts: 12 Private Messages dcroe05
grahamcrackercoyote wrote:Holy turbunguin poop, Batman, Nevermore is currently at #18!


Assuming that Using Your Melon completes a moderate rise into at least the low teens:

Aquired Taste will have to gain 30 sales on Schrodinger's Equation, to survive another week (note, that's not "sell 30 shirts" it's "sell 30 shirts more than").

Nevermore's DSR is very close to other shirts right around it. It will need to gain 30 shirts on He'll probably Be Okay, and Kitchen Warfare to avoid being in a fight that will go down to the wire.

Neither of those will be easy. If I can't afford 2 shirts next Monday, I may have to make a hard decision.

Narfcake wrote:Thanks for covering for me, DCRoe!


No problem. In the future just let me know if you need an assist.

j5


quality posts: 63 Private Messages j5
Spudsy2061 wrote:I am neither a Chemist nor a Physicist but I'd rather have a dead cat on my t-shirt than a bunch of molecules (offense not meant just stating as my preference). I mean seriously, who wears a dead cat on them?

I'll bite.
Unless you're talking about Abe, I observer the cat to be alive.

move along

dcroe05


quality posts: 12 Private Messages dcroe05

WooHoo. Zombies on the move.

Narfcake


quality posts: 239 Private Messages Narfcake
dcroe05 wrote:WooHoo. Zombies on the move.



... but the next likely to fall is the cat. And if not, then it's the bird, which would be nice if it'd make it to week 200.

GAH!

Spudsy2061


quality posts: 1 Private Messages Spudsy2061
j5 wrote:I'll bite.
Unless you're talking about Abe, I observer the cat to be alive.



At least someone caught the attempted humor. So much for trying to return to shirt ranting as discussed from last week.

Narfcake wrote: My earliest attempt at the ranking mistakenly presumed that too. It's NOT a rolling 4 week schedule, but rather, the 4 weeks is total. For this week, the basis is from December 19; it's day 22 now ("real time" DSR), and 28 days will elapse ("Woot based" DSR) when this period closes.



Okay so I get it, it throws out 4 weeks back and pretty much now makes this week's sale become that 4th week in which the sales are referenced/ranked. NOW I totally get the real-time vs woot based DSR which I never understood when I lurked on your wonderful rankings. This probably would most accurately explain why Ugly Holiday Sweater 2011 finished 12th but then immediately plummeted to 23rd after midnight struck and the shirts were reckoned last Monday. I have been enlightened. Thank you young grasshopper.

dcroe05


quality posts: 12 Private Messages dcroe05
Narfcake wrote:... but the next likely to fall is the cat. And if not, then it's the bird, which would be nice if it'd make it to week 200.

GAH!



In this dilemma, I would allow the cat to go. It's not going to hang around to reach any milestone. Although irony would seem to dictate that, if reckoned, the cat might pop back above the cut.

genericsmith


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I haven't chimed in on this in a while and it'll probably hex it... but I think it's pretty awesome that nevermore is currently sitting at #18.

Munchy Attack If you can find the name of this artist & real song title I'll buy you a daily woot shirt (your choice what day)

Dystopia Dark Lager, Where the Wild Parties at?, B.A. Bearacus, and many more wanted in XXL(PLEASE!!!)
Edgar Allen Poe shall remained headlock'd until Nevermore is reckoned.

nursedekk


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I just check the reck to see whether the unstealthiest ninja has survived. I'm waiting for husband to take a hint and get it for me...

Narfcake


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Tuesday has come and gone ... and go fig, WootBot didn't show up for work. Again.

Anyways, here is where they're at after one day:

Legend: Current rank (Baseline rank) Shirt Name - (Additional sales) and total quantity as of this posting. Refer to the beginning of this reckoning for the baseline sales numbers. DSR are for informational purposes only and not 100% accurate.
1 (1) The Dark Knight - (+55) to 10777. Approx. 52.66 real time DSR; 42.32 Woot-based DSR
2 (2) Family Breakfast - (+47) to 11429. Approx. 39.02 real time DSR; 31.36 Woot-based DSR
3 (3) Unstealthiest Ninja II: The Unstealthening - (+43) to 4447. Approx. 36 real time DSR; 27.57 Woot-based DSR
4 (4) Makin’ Bread - (+19) to 7350. Approx. 31.46 real time DSR; 25.29 Woot-based DSR
5 (5) Code of Arms - (+32) to 3854. Approx. 33.61 real time DSR; 23.62 Woot-based DSR
6 (7) The Birthplace of Inspiration - (+23) to 3652. Approx. 52.72 real time DSR; 22.21 Woot-based DSR
7 (6) Run Away! Run Away! - (+21) to 9990. Approx. 25.86 real time DSR; 20.79 Woot-based DSR
8 (12) A Wild Night - (+21) to 3588. Approx. 27.9 real time DSR; 18.61 Woot-based DSR
9 (8) Unstealthiest Ninja - (+13) to 13551. Approx. 23.55 real time DSR; 18.93 Woot-based DSR
10 (9) The Binge - (+20) to 54632. Approx. 23.33 real time DSR; 18.75 Woot-based DSR
11 (11) Meatatarian - (+19) to 5546. Approx. 22.84 real time DSR; 18.36 Woot-based DSR
12 (10) Caffeine Power Up - (+13) to 3743. Approx. 22.8 real time DSR; 18.32 Woot-based DSR
13 (13) They See Me Rollin' - (+29) to 3137. Approx. 28.62 real time DSR; 16.96 Woot-based DSR
14 (14) Inevitable Betrayal - (+19) to 5198. Approx. 18.98 real time DSR; 15.25 Woot-based DSR
15 (15) It Came Out Of Nowhere - (+16) to 36291. Approx. 18.49 real time DSR; 14.86 Woot-based DSR
16 (16) He’ll Probably Be Okay - (+10) to 9727. Approx. 17.47 real time DSR; 14.04 Woot-based DSR
17 (18) Kitchen Warfare - (+17) to 12660. Approx. 17.15 real time DSR; 13.79 Woot-based DSR
18 (17) Nevermore - (+13) to 45382. Approx. 17.02 real time DSR; 13.68 Woot-based DSR
19 (21) Using Your Melon - (+20) to 2608. Approx. 27.79 real time DSR; 13.24 Woot-based DSR
20 (19) Schrödinger’s Equation - (+22) to 6651. Approx. 16.49 real time DSR; 13.25 Woot-based DSR
21 (22) Acquired Taste - (+33) to 20613. Approx. 15.69 real time DSR; 12.61 Woot-based DSR
22 (20) If a tree falls in the woods - (+16) to 5020. Approx. 15.55 real time DSR; 12.5 Woot-based DSR
23 (23) Ugly Holiday Sweater 2011 - (+2) to 7412. Approx. 13.24 real time DSR; 10.64 Woot-based DSR
24 (24) Historical Inspiration - (+6) to 2285. Approx. 19.83 real time DSR; 10.35 Woot-based DSR
25 (25) Jump For It - (+16) to 1382. Approx. 25.65 real time DSR; 9.06 Woot-based DSR
26 (27) I Want to Fly - (+19) to 967. Approx. 29.47 real time DSR; 7.87 Woot-based DSR
27 (26) Alphabeasts - (+15) to 1320. Approx. 11.57 real time DSR; 6.48 Woot-based DSR
91 (91) Motivation - (+94) to 4415. Approx. 93.87 real time DSR; n/a Woot-based DSR
92 (92) Vampires! - 3340.

Run Away! Run Away! will hit the 10k mark very shortly. Nevermore may indeed be never more come Monday if the rest of the week looks like yesterday's (+13). Ugly Holiday Sweater - 27th place, here I come!

caramelarrow


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Just a thought.... I'm wondering if Woot would consider keeping The Binge and Nevermore available for sale from the Hamper Hall of Fame and not the Reckoning. Woot could set up whatever criteria they'd like for future members of the HHF (like 150 weeks or 40,000 sales or whatever) and move deserving shirts there. This way the shirts that reach the HHF, like Binge and Nevermore, are always available for sale, thus making Woot more money, but freeing up spots in the Reckoning for newer designs to attempt to reach HHF status.

ArdillaCiega


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caramelarrow wrote:Just a thought.... I'm wondering if Woot would consider keeping The Binge and Nevermore available for sale from the Hamper Hall of Fame and not the Reckoning. Woot could set up whatever criteria they'd like for future members of the HHF (like 150 weeks or 40,000 sales or whatever) and move deserving shirts there. This way the shirts that reach the HHF, like Binge and Nevermore, are always available for sale, thus making Woot more money, but freeing up spots in the Reckoning for newer designs to attempt to reach HHF status.



Then what happens if their 4 week DSR climbs back into the top 20? Do they move back into the Reckoning? Oh what a tangled web...

Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.

caramelarrow


quality posts: 7 Private Messages caramelarrow
ArdillaCiega wrote:Then what happens if their 4 week DSR climbs back into the top 20? Do they move back into the Reckoning? Oh what a tangled web...



No, I was saying they have earned the right as members of the HHF of being permanently out of the Reckoning.

grahamcrackercoyote


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Melon doesn't look like it'll go to seed this week. 16-18, 20-22 - including Nevermore - look to be fighting it out for the last few safe spots. Cat's spent the last few days close to being in a superposition of states - is the Cat dead or alive?

citizencoyote


quality posts: 42 Private Messages citizencoyote
nursedekk wrote:I just check the reck to see whether the unstealthiest ninja has survived. I'm waiting for husband to take a hint and get it for me...



Unstealthiest Ninja should be set for several weeks. It got a boost during the holidays, and then a huge boost thanks to its sequel. No need to panic about hubby's obtuseness yet.

C'mon, zombies! There are more brainz and sammiches out there still!

elankat


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citizencoyote wrote:Unstealthiest Ninja should be set for several weeks. It got a boost during the holidays, and then a huge boost thanks to its sequel. No need to panic about hubby's obtuseness yet.

C'mon, zombies! There are more brainz and sammiches out there still!



I think I'm in for 2 Acquired Taste shirts this week. I love that shirt.

ellegee


quality posts: 3 Private Messages ellegee

I've been wanting to buy Aquired Taste and just haven't done it yet, looks like this week could be my last chance. Is there a certain day that would be best to buy it to possibly help save it?

dcroe05


quality posts: 12 Private Messages dcroe05
ellegee wrote:I've been wanting to buy Aquired Taste and just haven't done it yet, looks like this week could be my last chance. Is there a certain day that would be best to buy it to possibly help save it?



Nope. Since ranking is determined from a fixed window of days, no day is given more or less weight than any other.

dcroe05


quality posts: 12 Private Messages dcroe05
citizencoyote wrote:C'mon, zombies! There are more brainz and sammiches out there still!



Tidbit from yesterday's sales: Acquired Taste sold more shirts on Tuesday than all but but the top 3 shirts.

I think we can save it. Although using UnNinja & UnNinja II as a case study, Acquired Taste II would certainly be a big help.

Narfcake


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dcroe05 wrote:Tidbit from yesterday's sales: Acquired Taste sold more shirts on Tuesday than all but but the top 3 shirts.



It just needs to keep it up for the rest of the week for a good chance at survival now ...

I think we can save it. Although using UnNinja & UnNinja II as a case study, Acquired Taste II would certainly be a big help.


We sorta had one. It lasted 7 weeks.

Fujiko


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caramelarrow wrote:No, I was saying they have earned the right as members of the HHF of being permanently out of the Reckoning.



I'd like to see something like that too - any shirts that have survived for years in the reckoning, or sold tens of thousands of copies (numbers to be determined by someone better at this than me) are made part of a permanent roster.

If that wouldn't work, maybe with woot doing weekly sales, every few months or so they can have a top sellers' week.

nomadslim


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After reading all the comments about saving designs I was hoping there would be some greenpeace fan tying themselves to my tree design before it gets cut down.

SAVE THE TREES!

dcroe05


quality posts: 12 Private Messages dcroe05
Fujiko wrote:I'd like to see something like that too - any shirts that have survived for years in the reckoning, or sold tens of thousands of copies (numbers to be determined by someone better at this than me) are made part of a permanent roster.



How about: Let it run it's course as normal (it's fun to see how long a shirt can survive), but once a shirt hits 104 weeks or 20,000 (arbitary) AND falls off the reckoning, it goes to the HoF, and comes back for Woot-Offs and special sales.

Narfcake


quality posts: 239 Private Messages Narfcake
nomadslim wrote:After reading all the comments about saving designs I was hoping there would be some greenpeace fan tying themselves to my tree design before it gets cut down.

SAVE THE TREES!


Needz moar loudness. And link. Like this:

  • SAVE THE TREES!
  • genericsmith


    quality posts: 15 Private Messages genericsmith
    caramelarrow wrote:No, I was saying they have earned the right as members of the HHF of being permanently out of the Reckoning.



    At one point I had been arguing for that... just to get it out of the reckoning. But that was at a time when there were a ton of bloated shirts clogging up all movement in the reckoning list.

    However, since they never listened to me... in addition to the fact I don't like the shirt, poem, or Edgar Allen Poe... I fully intend to celebrate it's reckoning and subsequent unexistance.

    And I guess deliver on my signature's promise of releasing EAP from being headlocked.

    Munchy Attack If you can find the name of this artist & real song title I'll buy you a daily woot shirt (your choice what day)

    Dystopia Dark Lager, Where the Wild Parties at?, B.A. Bearacus, and many more wanted in XXL(PLEASE!!!)
    Edgar Allen Poe shall remained headlock'd until Nevermore is reckoned.

    inkycatz


    quality posts: 105 Private Messages inkycatz
    Fujiko wrote:I'd like to see something like that too - any shirts that have survived for years in the reckoning, or sold tens of thousands of copies (numbers to be determined by someone better at this than me) are made part of a permanent roster.

    If that wouldn't work, maybe with woot doing weekly sales, every few months or so they can have a top sellers' week.



    Just FYI, passed on this suggestion for you.

    I'm just hanging out, really.

    j5


    quality posts: 63 Private Messages j5
    Narfcake wrote:We sorta had one. It lasted 7 weeks.


    And it's the one I prefer. I guess I'm odd.

    move along

    genericsmith


    quality posts: 15 Private Messages genericsmith
    inkycatz wrote:Just FYI, passed on this suggestion for you.



    BOOOOOOOOOOO!

    Let it be reckoned!

    If somebody doesn't have it by now... I'd say that's on them... Especially since it's also been offered in Hoodie form, Tote Bag, Temporary Tattoo, Car Vinyl...

    Let some other shirts have some shine too!

    Munchy Attack If you can find the name of this artist & real song title I'll buy you a daily woot shirt (your choice what day)

    Dystopia Dark Lager, Where the Wild Parties at?, B.A. Bearacus, and many more wanted in XXL(PLEASE!!!)
    Edgar Allen Poe shall remained headlock'd until Nevermore is reckoned.

    j5


    quality posts: 63 Private Messages j5
    genericsmith wrote:
    Let some other shirts have some shine too!


    If they set it aside, then other shirts will have the same chance as if it were reckoned away.

    move along