j5 wrote:I think this week's derby is a pretty good indicator of why nobody likes to critique anymore.
Here's my big wall of text; one of them, at least :-)
By happenstance, I wandered over to this thread while searching for terms like "artist" and "critique."
I am an absolute beginner (with nothing much at stake), and a newcomer to Shirt.Woot! Unfortunately, I understand j5's position after seeing fan-followers flaming posters who simply quote Woot! contracts to stress hard and fast rules that involve no interpretation or specifically list analogous events to demonstrate a point. What they are doing qualifies less as critique and more as group memory, and yet, for their contribution to the community, their art or personality or grammar is attacked.
The fact that you replied to me after posting the quoted text speaks volumes of your commitment to this community. You were disillusioned enough to make that statement, but still responded to my request. To some extent, I suspect my plea for feedback correlated to asking you to lead me through a minefield I planted while holding the map behind my back. I respect you for stepping up anyway.
I wish those of you in this thread-chat room could understand the impact you could have on some of us. Maybe Woot! Would consider a junior-mentor team Derby sometime or even every couple of months, i.e., require teams, one of whom must never have printed at Woot! Perhaps the incoming and currently quickly outgoing noobs would stay longer and increase the energy to evolve.
I would also suggest an additional question for the derby entry, e.g., "do you want a 'critique me' button clipped to your thumbnail?" If people are wary of critiquing others because of the backlash, then I have less motivation to be here. If we could create a safer place for you to be honest, specific, and critical, all the artists would benefit.
Moneys great, but my goal is to evolve as an artist. I've been a writer my whole life, but I've always longed to do more than just describe the pictures in my head. A friend encouraged me to come over to this site and soak up the ambiance.
I catch glimpses of what she was pushing me to find.
you and the artists and art lovers on this thread are the online artists colony I was looking for. Don't let the haters cause any of you all to "go dark."
I will weep if I've arrived too late.