Derby #34: Canada

O Canada! - Sorry that's all I know!

I think this is essentially the same idea submitted by Cheese here: http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=11523

Rejected because: I think this is essentially the same idea submitted by Cheese here: http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=11523

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klswoot


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Re: O Canada! - Sorry that's all I know!


Just in time for the next Olympics. The Canadian National Anthem tshirt....O Canada! .... oops...that's all I know.

mjpupillo


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klswoot wrote:Just in time for the next Olympics. The Canadian National Anthem tshirt....O Canada! .... oops...that's all I know.


Wait. You mean there's more?



klswoot


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Re: O Canada! - Sorry that's all I know!


mjpupillo wrote:Wait. You mean there's more?


l.ol! I know! Apparently so!

easeandgrace


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klswoot


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klswoot


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Re: O Canada! - Sorry that's all I know!


Although I can understand the rejection, I have to voice my concern about the inconsistencies of rejection. The only reason my entry and Cheese's entry look the same is because we both used established sheet music as inspiration for our design. She did a design with sheet music that changed the lyrics of the anthem. Mine completely ignores the lyrics aside from O Canada...as this is the only part that many Americans know. The message that comes across from the two shirts is completely different and as such mine didn't deserve a rejection.

There are dozens of similar maple leaf entries, at least 3 stacks of pancakes with syrup, Canadian flag entries whose design and message are nearly identical, and way too many "EH" entries! Yet all of these "similar" designs remain in the derby.

I never saw Cheese's entry before doing my designs yesterday. She wrote to me and pointed out the similarity. I apologized in the thread for her design and mentioned that the similarities were unintentional and was probably due to the fact that we both used the same source for the printed sheet music. Although the differences to me were enough to justify keeping my entry in the derby, I did offer to remove it. I think you (Woot) should have simply asked me to remove it given that it hadn't yet met the 24 hour mark. The rejection wasn't necessary.

I think if you had looked at the comps for the shirt and judged the overall message/joke in each of the designs separately, you would agree that the only similarity is that we both drew our designs from already established sheet music.

geekfactor12


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klswoot wrote:There are dozens of similar maple leaf entries, at least 3 stacks of pancakes with syrup, Canadian flag entries whose design and message are nearly identical, and way too many "EH" entries! Yet all of these "similar" designs remain in the derby.


My pancakes have no syrup! Vote for the only syrup-free pancakes, y'all!

Seriously, though, if we're rejecting shirts for making different jokes with the same inspiration (in this case, Canada's anthem), then why is a joke based on the periodic table (when other jokes have been made using the same inspiration are all over the web, including several shirts) still in the fog?

daedalusknight


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geekfactor12 wrote:My pancakes have no syrup! Vote for the only syrup-free pancakes, y'all!


Okay... that does it... it's pancakes for dinner tonight. :-)

klswoot


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daedalusknight wrote:Okay... that does it... it's pancakes for dinner tonight. :-)


Don't forget to also warm a side of Canadian Bacon to go along with that short stack.

daedalusknight


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klswoot wrote:Don't forget to also warm a side of Canadian Bacon to go along with that short stack.


Sorry, just berries. I'm using them to make it look like that Animal-faced pancake stack. :-)

AdderXYU


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geekfactor12 wrote:My pancakes have no syrup! Vote for the only syrup-free pancakes, y'all!

Seriously, though, if we're rejecting shirts for making different jokes with the same inspiration (in this case, Canada's anthem), then why is a joke based on the periodic table (when other jokes have been made using the same inspiration are all over the web, including several shirts) still in the fog?


Because the designer is apparently providing half of woot with free radio.

mjc613


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geekfactor12 wrote:My pancakes have no syrup! Vote for the only syrup-free pancakes, y'all!

Seriously, though, if we're rejecting shirts for making different jokes with the same inspiration (in this case, Canada's anthem), then why is a joke based on the periodic table (when other jokes have been made using the same inspiration are all over the web, including several shirts) still in the fog?


I had the same question. Rejections have been VERY haphazard this derby.

Reject 1 America's hat, reject 4 designs with gradients, leave the America's Hat with gradients.
Reject Blame Canada, leave Canadaistan. (Both are anti-Canada.)
Reject the Anti-Hilary design, leave the Anti-War design (Canada has cooler heads).
Reject "Puck Off", leave "What the Canuck? ".
Reject the curling design because there was a curling design that was never printed, leave a periodic table when there is a periodic table in print.
And there's more........

The only thing that has been consistant has been the rejection of beavers.

daedalusknight


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mjc613 wrote:I had the same question. Rejections have been VERY haphazard this derby.

Reject 1 America's hat, reject 4 designs with gradients, leave the America's Hat with gradients.
Reject Blame Canada, leave Canadaistan. (Both are anti-Canada.)
Reject the Anti-Hilary design, leave the Anti-War design (Canada has cooler heads).
Reject "Puck Off", leave "What the Canuck? ".
Reject the curling design because there was a curling design that was never printed, leave a periodic table when there is a periodic table in print.
And there's more........


Perhaps we can get a clarification from on high? I think it would help designers work better if we were more clear about the rulings here.

Maybe there only appear to be gradients from afar, or maybe they haven't gotten around to being rejected yet... or maybe the friendly moderator is wrestling with a tough call before ruling something out?


mjc613 wrote: The only thing that has been consistant has been the rejection of beavers.


Okay, well that one needs no clarification. :-)

daedalusknight


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Re: Derby Entry 11783

Hang on, folks... let's not get into a flamewar here. I came to Adder's defense before and now I'd like to speak to what Brizz is talking about. There's a very specific, confusing set of circumstances.

Both KLSWoot and Cheesesandwich created shirts with the same visual style (sheet music with text), the same kind of gag (alternate lyrics) but with a different joke (not knowing the words vs. Canadian girlfriend). KLS' shirt got rejected because of this.

Similarly, this shirt has the same visual style as other shirts (boxes and text), the same kind of gag (alternate elements) but with a different joke (Canada vs. Food/beverages).

I don't think Brizz should be expressing things quite so negatively, though. I can think of a number of explanations as to why this shirt hasn't been rejected (or rejected YET) so I wonder if there's any way we can actually contact our kind moderator and get a clear, logical response? It seems to many here that either KLS' shirt was unfairly rejected or that the periodic table should be rejected too... either one could be the case. Let's talk things out fairly and without ire and hopefully we can get an official ruling here without anyone's feelings getting hurt.

2thFairy


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daedalusknight wrote:Let's talk things out fairly and without ire and hopefully we can get an official ruling here without anyone's feelings getting hurt.


Is this the Dr. Phil show?

daedalusknight


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2thFairy wrote:Is this the Dr. Phil show?


Heheh... nope. Just trying to get a clear answer here rather than have people start yelling and quitting Woot.

mjc613


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mjc613 wrote:I had the same question. Rejections have been VERY haphazard this derby.

Reject 1 America's hat, reject 4 designs with gradients, leave the America's Hat with gradients.
Reject Blame Canada, leave Canadaistan. (Both are anti-Canada.)
Reject the Anti-Hilary design, leave the Anti-War design (Canada has cooler heads).
Reject "Puck Off", leave "What the Canuck? ".
Reject the curling design because there was a curling design that was never printed, leave a periodic table when there is a periodic table in print.
And there's more........

For those who wonder why
I posted this earlier.

mjc613


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mjc613 wrote:I had the same question. Rejections have been VERY haphazard this derby.

Reject 1 America's hat, reject 4 designs with gradients, leave the America's Hat with gradients.
Reject Blame Canada, leave Canadaistan. (Both are anti-Canada.)
Reject the Anti-Hilary design, leave the Anti-War design (Canada has cooler heads).
Reject "Puck Off", leave "What the Canuck? ".
Reject the curling design because there was a curling design that was never printed, leave a periodic table when there is a periodic table in print.
And there's more........

For those who wonder why brought up an entry from a long past derby, this previous post of mine may clear things up.
I am just want woot to be fair to KLS, and and to the curling entry designer.

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