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I'm Utterly Delicious

I'm Utterly Delicious
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SamoaJoe


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This shirt has been done before, thus it's not an original concept and should be subject to rejection : http://images.etsy.com/all_images/8/861/4d4/il_fullxfull.13538420.jpg

Also :


From Threadless : http://www.threadless.com/submission/65504/Happy_Cows_Come_from_California/showmore,designs

From Gothamist :
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gothamist.com/images/2005_01_bklyncow.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gothamist.com/2005/01/13/bovine_brooklyn.php&h=222&w=450&sz=19&hl=en&start=46&um=1&tbnid=OB74uX7KcYTO6M:&tbnh=63&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcuts%2Bof%2Bbeef%2Bshirt%26start%3D42%26ndsp%3D21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

Here's the idea done on plates :
http://www.geocities.com/perry_peterson_1999/plates.jpg

Other things have been rejected for less.

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Amach06


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Awsome shirt. Good luck.

Well there is always next year....

jamescho84


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This idea is similar in concept to existing shirts, as one person has already pointed out. Granted, I agree - though I am making an addition execution-wise to an idea {which, fortunately, cannot be protected}. It is very different from the examples of which i'm sure a couple of people will point out, and based on woots decisions made in this dept. in the past, I very much doubt this is rejection material. I might be wrong. I will say this, let's keep the thread clean in here - I know you guys like to get out of hand. The tattle button is at the top right corner, and if you must - make your case and move on. Let's not turn this into a flame war. Thank you.

Amach06


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jamescho84 wrote:This idea is similar in concept to existing shirts, as one person has already pointed out. Granted, I agree - though I am making an addition execution-wise to an idea {which, fortunately, cannot be protected}. It is very different from the examples of which i'm sure a couple of people will point out, and based on woots decisions made in this dept. in the past, I very much doubt this is rejection material. I might be wrong. I will say this, let's keep the thread clean in here - I know you guys like to get out of hand. The tattle button is at the top right corner, and if you must - make your case and move on. Let's not turn this into a flame war. Thank you.


Well in any case, job well done.

Well there is always next year....

fablefire


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No udders! *gasp*

Maybe it's mancow milk... Fun design, and hell... submit whatever. It's open season until the hammer starts falling.

SamoaJoe


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jamescho84 wrote:This idea is similar in concept to existing shirts, as one person has already pointed out. Granted, I agree - though I am making an addition execution-wise to an idea {which, fortunately, cannot be protected}. It is very different from the examples of which i'm sure a couple of people will point out, and based on woots decisions made in this dept. in the past, I very much doubt this is rejection material. I might be wrong. I will say this, let's keep the thread clean in here - I know you guys like to get out of hand. The tattle button is at the top right corner, and if you must - make your case and move on. Let's not turn this into a flame war. Thank you.


I have no intentions on making this a flame war. I said my peice, and already tattled.

As I stated previously, other shirts which had "different execution of similar concepts" have been held up to Woot ridicule, this should be no different. Remember, as another poster always points out, Woot's mission statement is for "Unique, original designs and concepts".

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haxrox


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So good. Nice inclusion of "ribz".

mjsnyder1974


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Look, whether or not it's been done before, it still makes me hungry. Think I'll go get a steak sandwich for lunch . . .

jamescho84


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Amach06 wrote:That was my point earlier. I mean if he mad his name today can he even vote? Looks like someone out to get Cho.

It is. No big deal, always happens.

Turbotuff


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I would have to get this.. if nothing more than to wear in front of the guys at work

fillengroovy


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Turbotuff wrote:I would have to get this.. if nothing more than to wear in front of the guys at work

I cut meat for a living and spend a good part of my life intimidating and making fun of veggies (vegans). Sorry to all veggies out there. I would gladly wear this!

bluchez


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fillengroovy wrote:I cut meat for a living and spend a good part of my life intimidating and making fun of veggies (vegans). Sorry to all veggies out there. I would gladly wear this!


As a Beef Eater, born and raised on a cattle ranch, I must concur with the sentiment that I would happily wear this. I personally am offended by veggies, since they are going out of their way to put my dad out of business.

Amach06


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bluchez wrote:As a Beef Eater, born and raised on a cattle ranch, I must concur with the sentiment that I would happily wear this. I personally am offended by veggies, since they are going out of their way to put my dad out of business.


that wuz teh funneh.

Well there is always next year....

surflunesta


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Mr. Cho: Didn't you mean for the title to read Udderly even tho said bovine is sans udders? Cows are cool.

sokowa


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jamescho84 wrote:It is. No big deal, always happens.


In regards to other shirts last week that had issues of "sameness' with previous shirt designs . . . ok, my shirt "Armageddon" . . regardless of how I felt about being rejected(upset) or how others felt(happy or upset), I never felt personally attacked. So I thank everyone for that. And James didn't contribute to the argument either with an "Ovulating? My Goodness! MY shirtz!! How dare you woman!" kind of post, so seeing him personally attacked kinda vacuums.

When I saw this theme I figured there was going to be a lot of "same looking shirts". I have some ideas but none I'm excited to do since it's almost too much time for too much risk.

sokowa


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sokowa wrote:In regards to other shirts last week that had issues of "sameness' with previous shirt designs . . . ok, my shirt "Armageddon" . . regardless of how I felt about being rejected(upset) or how others felt(happy or upset), I never felt personally attacked. So I thank everyone for that. And James didn't contribute to the argument either with an "Ovulating? My Goodness! MY shirtz!! How dare you woman!" kind of post, so seeing him personally attacked kinda vacuums.

When I saw this theme I figured there was going to be a lot of "same looking shirts". I have some ideas but none I'm excited to do since it's almost too much time for too much risk.




Sigh, gotta love those filters . . . Now I'm REALLY happy you didn't ovulate over your goodness. o.O

Amach06


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sokowa wrote:Sigh, gotta love those filters . . . Now I'm REALLY happy you didn't ovulate over your goodness. o.O


I have to say that i am upset you didnt submit something. I tend to find your stuff diffrent and creative. So maybe you can still submit something?

Well there is always next year....

burtonrider404


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long live cho...and his tshirts

Lighter


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SamoaJoe wrote:Other things have been rejected for less.


No they haven't.

Those three examples are not on point with this design. The USDA cow has been used as a frame for parody for decades. To chop down Cho on point you need to find one that is all cute text with no other line work. Study your Peter Max era stuff. You might find something. Or not. But the exercise will do you good.

sokowa


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Amach06 wrote:I have to say that i am upset you didnt submit something. I tend to find your stuff diffrent and creative. So maybe you can still submit something?


I have an idea I'll try to get to this weekend ;)
A friend's Birthday come first though.

2thFairy


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fablefire wrote:I think it's funny how people can't tell if he/she's being serious about rejecting Cho, or being snarky about the RG thread.

I also think a single slice of Pi Pie would have been cool, but then you couldn't really fit the 3.14~ on there... choices choices...

I like pie. I hope it's cherry.

Maybe we can combine the two entries to make delicious beefy cow pi pie. That's original and will stick it to them naysayers. Kinda like the ostriches.


oh, you DONT want a cow pi pie.. ;)

Jemmacakes


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fillengroovy wrote:I cut meat for a living and spend a good part of my life intimidating and making fun of veggies (vegans). Sorry to all veggies out there. I would gladly wear this!


I eat meat too: locally grown and slaughtered grass fed. I don't have a tiny weedus so that I need to flaunt around my carnivorism.

...where is the eye rolling emoticon....

Still...not feeling this shirt. It ain't THAT witty.

tommyt827


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Hands down my fav thus far.

Failoan


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Beefy! Great shirt once again cho.

eHalcyon


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Steak wins.

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Seattlejo


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Lighter wrote:No they haven't.

Those three examples are not on point with this design. The USDA cow has been used as a frame for parody for decades. To chop down Cho on point you need to find one that is all cute text with no other line work. Study your Peter Max era stuff. You might find something. Or not. But the exercise will do you good.


Other designs have been rejected for less. The hockey playing moose from the Canada derby is an example. The moose looked about as similar as the two cows do, but the one Jaden did was rejected because it was the same thing "A moose playing hockey"
http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=11512

In this case you have two cows illustrating what parts of them equal what meat. It might be well done, but its not particularly original.

burtonrider404


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okay, if you people think this shirt should be rejected on the grounds that someone has already done something similar (but not the same!) to this shirt, then the two raven shirts should also be rejected along that same principal. they are both referencing the same thing and are pretty similar. the difference is in the execution. you can have the same idea but it's all about the execution!!

this shirt is fine.

sokowa


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burtonrider404 wrote: they are both referencing the same thing and are pretty similar. the difference is in the execution. you can have the same idea but it's all about the execution!!

this shirt is fine.


Sadly, it seems execution doesn't count as much as similarity in theme (so it seems). Which worries me, and makes me think this theme is just going to get crazy.

Caligumby


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At least it's not a flying penguin!

Dstanto


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very nice job, hope you win

bolinskyman


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Very Nice Cho. There's still your distinctive style in this very unusual design by you.

superspryte


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Hey guys, help me out here. If you see a post that's BAD (offensive/profane/etc.), please don't reply to it. Just report it and we'll get it. Replying multiplies the problem because there's more to delete. Sorry it took so long to see this; the woot off was crazy. ^_^

Now play nice everyone.

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imthej


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I can see that my "james cho is above the law on woot" post was deleted. Way to make my point.

superspryte


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imthej wrote:I can see that my "james cho is above the law on woot" post was deleted. Way to make my point.

It was replying to a deleted post.

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imthej


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SamoaJoe wrote:This shirt has been done before, thus it's not an original concept and should be subject to rejection : http://images.etsy.com/all_images/8/861/4d4/il_fullxfull.13538420.jpg

Also :


From Threadless : http://www.threadless.com/submission/65504/Happy_Cows_Come_from_California/showmore,designs



From Gothamist :
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gothamist.com/images/2005_01_bklyncow.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gothamist.com/2005/01/13/bovine_brooklyn.php&h=222&w=450&sz=19&hl=en&start=46&um=1&tbnid=OB74uX7KcYTO6M:&tbnh=63&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcuts%2Bof%2Bbeef%2Bshirt%26start%3D42%26ndsp%3D21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

Here's the idea done on plates :
http://www.geocities.com/perry_peterson_1999/plates.jpg

Other things have been rejected for less.





I dont care, im standing up for this kid. All he did was post that its similiar to a bunch of different shirts. This would be a REJECTION for anyone else. By putting the kid on probation you just prove him right

superspryte


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imthej wrote:I dont care, im standing up for this kid. All he did was post that its similiar to a bunch of different shirts. This would be a REJECTION for anyone else. By putting the kid on probation you just prove him right

Does it help when I say he's a troll circumventing probation?

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mjc613


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imthej wrote:I dont care, im standing up for this kid. All he did was post that its similiar to a bunch of different shirts. This would be a REJECTION for anyone else. By putting the kid on probation you just prove him right


You and he have not paid enough attention in the past few weeks.
1 -Shirts have been rejected for having similar designs to something on WOOT, not necessarily on other sites.
2- This shirt is the only one to do text art with the different cuts of meat. The others mention cuts of meat, states of the union or neighborhoods in Brooklyn, but none were text art.
3- Samoa Joe was put on probation for trashing other people, not for having an opinion.

Please do not send me any PMs to tell me how much you do not agree with me. I still have some of your old ones from the Line Art Derby.

WonderWooter


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Good job Cho I think it's a cute idea and well executed.

Don't be sexist. Broads hate that.

ianthemighty


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This is a handsome shirt. I have so many vegetarian and vegan sympathies, though, that some people* might think I'm wearing it in irony.

How often are shirts rejected because Joe Poster says something? Not often, right? So rather than proposing or defending or debating rejection (which is out of our hands), why not propose or defend or debate voting for the shirts?

This is so reasonable that countless casual posters* have proposed it before, right? And it never changes anything?

Back to lurking.


*Me, too

RicardoRizo


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This shirt is gross AND awesome at the same time. That's why you GMV.

TAYLORT5


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Why Blue?


You're on probation!

You've been put on posting probation for this post for this reason: Ok, I deleted it 3 times. Do you not get it? (24h) Personal attack/useless post.

Please stare at the scary cartoon dog for 20 hours and then try posting again.

eHalcyon


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mjc613 wrote:You and he have not paid enough attention in the past few weeks.
1 -Shirts have been rejected for having similar designs to something on WOOT, not necessarily on other sites.
2- This shirt is the only one to do text art with the different cuts of meat. The others mention cuts of meat, states of the union or neighborhoods in Brooklyn, but none were text art.
3- Samoa Joe was put on probation for trashing other people, not for having an opinion.

Please do not send me any PMs to tell me how much you do not agree with me. I still have some of your old ones from the Line Art Derby.


Actually, there have been several shirts that have been rejected for being similar to shirts on other sites. It's not just on woot.

That said, I believe that the execution of this shirt is definitely different enough. I don't know why Cho bothered to mention those other shirts himself, because they're not very similar beyond the idea of "cow = food."

That guy who was making all the fuss clearly had a personal vendetta against Cho. He also commented on the pi pie shirt and said it was the same as one where the pi symbol was made to look like an apple core, on the basis that both had the concept of "pi = food." The argument against that shirt is even weaker than the argument against this one, in my opinion.

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Andy47240


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Very cool shirt and I think the colors look incredible!
-Andy



iceberg113


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brizz wrote: The designer has NOTHING to do with whether a shirt is rejected. Zip Zilch Zero.


While I do wish this is how it it would happen, I'm not sure that is an entirely true statement. I'm new to woot, so someone may have already suggested this, but why don't they just keep the designer names hidden until voting closes for that paticular derby? Then favortism wouldn't even have a chance in effecting votes or rejections. It would be totally about the shirts.

mjc613


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JustJiggles wrote:Wow, SamoaJoe censored for expressing his opinion. Not very cool, Woot. Not cool.


Samoa Joe is still allowed to enter the derby. If he makes a purchase, he can vote. He is on probabtion for trashing people. That is against woot's rulles. Go read the What is Woot page, and see for yourself.

I will also say that if woot cared about opinions, there would several of us here banned, and WE, including me, have not been.

JustJiggles


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mjc613 wrote:Samoa Joe is still allowed to enter the derby. If he makes a purchase, he can vote. He is on probabtion for trashing people. That is against woot's rulles. Go read the What is Woot page, and see for yourself.

I will also say that if woot cared about opinions, there would several of us here banned, and WE, including me, have not been.


That would be all well and good if my previous post which you just replied to was not cut. Super sensitive over at Woot, I tell you.

SkekTek


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Very good idea and execution! Bet Alton Brown (a chef that has his own characteristic cartoon cow parts graphic) would love it.

eHalcyon


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iceberg113 wrote:While I do wish this is how it it would happen, I'm not sure that is an entirely true statement. I'm new to woot, so someone may have already suggested this, but why don't they just keep the designer names hidden until voting closes for that paticular derby? Then favortism wouldn't even have a chance in effecting votes or rejections. It would be totally about the shirts.


If designer names have something to do with the vote numbers, hiding usernames will do little to solve it unless you also ban all the entrants from advertising their work in their signatures. It might get fairly obvious when one person is going around the forums asking for votes.

I don't think the usernames have much to do with it. There are, of course, a few people out there who WON'T vote for a shirt if it's by a particular designer, and here are probably some out there who vote for a designer regardless of quality, but most people will come to this page, vote for some cool stuff and then leave. Most people wouldn't even know that there's all this drama and controversy going on in the comments. =P

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LaSassy


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My husband has been a meat manager (fancy for butcher) for many years! There is no way I couldn't get this one for him.

Similar to other designs or not, I like this one and would get it.

cyclone364


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I'm a butcher, and this shirt is awesome. I'd wear it all the time. You do an awesome job.

MikeHoncho


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Mike Honcho hopes that this shirts makes another run at the fog. Mike Honcho would like the opportunity to purchase this fine shirt.

JustJiggles


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Who keeps deleting "open buttcheeks"?

bravosix


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Man, i love this shirt. Wish it had a chance of winning. Good luck anyways.

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