Derby #38: The Year You Were Born
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1974 - The Ramones form

1974 - The Ramones form
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gargrazz


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jenny78


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this is awesome. if it wins I'll but 3.

jenny78


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jenny78 wrote:this is awesome. if it wins I'll but 3.


I will not 'but' 3, but I will buy 3.

gargrazz


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jenny78 wrote:I will not 'but' 3, but I will buy 3.


I'm really happy with how this one came out. When it doesn't win, I'll put it up in the store. Thanks for your support. :^)

skaght


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Very nice. Me likey.

gargrazz


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Twenty-twenty-twenty-four votes in a row,
I wanna be in the hotness!
Nothin' to prove, I'm somewhere below,
I wanna be in the hotness!

Just move me up the vote count, maybe to the fog,
Hurry, hurry, hurry, before I kick a dog,
I can't control the forum, I can't control your votes,
Oh no-oh-oh-oh-ohhh...

Ad nauseum. Vote for the best punk shirt going in the derby... or just give me feedback.

daedalusknight


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gargrazz wrote:Vote for the best punk shirt going in the derby... or just give me feedback.


Isn't it the only punk shirt in the derby? :-)

Feedback: I love the layout and color palette, Nice and sharp for a sharp band. I wonder, though, if the curviness of things is hurting the design. When I think Ramones I think sharp edges and abrupt corners, not swervy roundness.

Just a thought.

gargrazz


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daedalusknight wrote:Isn't it the only punk shirt in the derby? :-)

Feedback: I love the layout and color palette, Nice and sharp for a sharp band. I wonder, though, if the curviness of things is hurting the design. When I think Ramones I think sharp edges and abrupt corners, not swervy roundness.

Just a thought.


You got me, it is the only punk shirt. I can't believe there's that many 70's children not addressing punk. I am shamed by my decade! :^)

Re Feedback: Agreed. I was hoping, however, that by making it a simpler, less Ramones-specific shirt, it would appeal to non-Ramones fans. (I also wanted to avoid any flirtation with existing Ramones IP and likenesses - the only way to make it a real "Ramones" shirt is to reference iconic images or use text - neither of which would be acceptable to Woot... so why bother going to the effort to make it Ramones specific?) But I should know by now that most Woot voters never separate the name/theme from the design itself. Sometimes a good t-shirt design is just a good t-shirt design. Whatever pretense it was entered under in the theme should be irrelevant. Once you buy a t-shirt, it should stand on its own without the Woot theme hovering over it.

This design is just a generic rock band rocking out. It's been consciously softened so that it could appeal to less "rock-minded" people, but retains its rock street cred by being on black and featuring the token Marshal stack. I like to call this style "chibi-punk". :^)

I often feel that many more designs would be warmly embraced if there wasn't some hesitation about its attachment to theme. I'm often told my designs "are great, but might not relate to the theme enough." Well, if Woot never rejects the design, then why not vote for a "great design"? Why be a slave to the theme when it's no longer going to have any relevance when it lands on your doorstep? Wear good shirts, not "clever derby entries". Too many designs are embraced because they cleverly fit a theme - but remove the design from context and it's just a confusing t-shirt.

I will continue to be flummoxed by my stubborn adherence to just designing shirts I'd wear. :^)

Thanks for the feedback. I really do appreciate it.

daedalusknight


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gargrazz wrote:You got me, it is the only punk shirt. I can't believe there's that many 70's children not addressing punk. I am shamed by my decade! :^)


That's true. But there's such a wide range of music this time around... Metal, pop, big band, acid rock. I'm glad to see there are so many musical folk out there.


gargrazz wrote: Re Feedback: Agreed. I was hoping, however, that by making it a simpler, less Ramones-specific shirt, it would appeal to non-Ramones fans. (I also wanted to avoid any flirtation with existing Ramones IP and likenesses - the only way to make it a real "Ramones" shirt is to reference iconic images or use text - neither of which would be acceptable to Woot... so why bother going to the effort to make it Ramones specific?)


That makes sense.

gargrazz wrote: I like to call this style "chibi-punk". :^)


Ha! Good one. :-)

gargrazz wrote: but remove the design from context and it's just a confusing t-shirt.


That's not always the case, but it certainly happens enough. I try to make my shirts something I would wear to a place where nobody's ever heard of Woot. Sometimes I'm more successful at that, sometimes less.

gargrazz wrote:Thanks for the feedback. I really do appreciate it.


You're entirely welcome.

brizz


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gargrazz wrote:You got me, it is the only punk shirt. I can't believe there's that many 70's children not addressing punk. I am shamed by my decade! :^)


uhm, because they were BORN in the 70s, they weren't exactly going to Sex Pistols shows...their formative cultural years were defined by John Hughes ;)

gargrazz


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brizz wrote:uhm, because they were BORN in the 70s, they weren't exactly going to Sex Pistols shows...their formative cultural years were defined by John Hughes ;)


John Hughes is what drove me into punk music. It was the quickest route out of the 80's. The Ramones and The Clash got me through Cindi Lauper and Madonna. I thought we were all doomed until Nirvana came along...

daedalusknight


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brizz wrote:uhm, because they were BORN in the 70s, they weren't exactly going to Sex Pistols shows...their formative cultural years were defined by John Hughes ;)


Bender: "Naked blonde walks into a bar with a poodle under one arm, and a two-foot salami under the other. The bartender says, I guess you won't be needing a drink. Naked lady says..."

(falls through ceiling)

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