Derby #45: Imaginational Symbols
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Yetislavia!

Yetislavia!
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snassiri


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Yetislavia!

The mythical homeland of the Yetis, tucked away in the frozen wasteland of Scandinavia, thrived for centuries, unnoticed by outside influences. The Yetis, who would travel south in search of food, were often targeted by hunters for their white coats, which were prized in the cold regions of Europe. People often dreamed of conquering the Yeti homeland, but no one knew for sure where it was, and it was guarded by terrain too dangerous to traverse for mere man.

Alas, in time conquerors did come. In 1099 a Viking horde invaded Yetislavia, razing the villages and capturing many Yeti. The few that managed to escape scattered across the globe. Some settled in the Himalayas. Others managed to make the treacherous crossing to North America, where they dyed their coats brown to hide amongst the forests.

No record has ever been found of their territory. It is believed the Vikings destroyed everything. Little is known about their culture, or their language (Yettish). What is certain is that they are plotting….waiting….to one day return to their ancestral home. And perhaps remind us all of why their motto, their battle cry, is Iki Sata Yetislavia!!!!

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snassiri


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snassiri wrote:Yetislavia!

The mythical homeland of the Yetis, tucked away in the frozen wasteland of Scandinavia, thrived for centuries, unnoticed by outside influences. The Yetis, who would travel south in search of food, were often targeted by hunters for their white coats, which were prized in the cold regions of Europe. People often dreamed of conquering the Yeti homeland, but no one knew for sure where it was, and it was guarded by terrain too dangerous to traverse for mere man.

Alas, in time conquerors did come. In 1099 a Viking horde invaded Yetislavia, razing the villages and capturing many Yeti. The few that managed to escape scattered across the globe. Some settled in the Himalayas. Others managed to make the treacherous crossing to North America, where they dyed their coats brown to hide amongst the forests.

No record has ever been found of their territory. It is believed the Vikings destroyed everything. Little is known about their culture, or their language (Yettish). What is certain is that they are plotting….waiting….to one day return to their ancestral home. And perhaps remind us all of why their motto, their battle cry, is Iki Sata Yetislavia!!!!

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Show me some love this week guys. I think my designs are pretty solid, but I haven't been able to break 25 votes. I'm not whining about not winning, but it is discouraging when you put in hours of work into a design and only have it get 25 votes. Getting closer to the top would be nice and encourage me to continue week after week.

Show me some love or give me some pointers. Thanks

eHalcyon


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snassiri wrote:Show me some love this week guys. I think my designs are pretty solid, but I haven't been able to break 25 votes, probably because I only have one account and not a bunch to give myself a little boost. I'm not whining about not winning, but it is discouraging when you put in hours of work into a design and only have it get 25 votes, and see other designs that look like they were done in MS Paint get higher. Getting closer to the top would be nice and encourage me to continue week after week.


Now that's not fair. Though it's common knowledge by now that this has been done before, there are plenty of ethical designers out here. And woot's done something to curtail hotness rigging as well.

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phzzt


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sometimes I feel the same way, but there's a culture you have to pay attention to on woot, and that's the cute, niche-y shirt. Just look at the shirts that get close to the top. They generally have some computer/game reference or odd cute thing about them. If you feel like you're not having fun with the derby go over to designbyhumans.com and you can make what you want and the options are a lot more diverse. But unlike woot, there's a submission check to see if it's good enough. That's where I do my best work anyway.

snassiri


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eHalcyon wrote:Now that's not fair. Though it's common knowledge by now that this has been done before, there are plenty of ethical designers out here. And woot's done something to curtail hotness rigging as well.


You're right. That's not fair. Edited for fairness

Of course no one wins a derby doing something like that, cause I doubt anyone has 500+ accounts laying around. All I'm saying is it would be nice to break 100 or 200 votes. That would be encouraging. But when my designs, which have all been fairly clever and original (not to sound like I'm full of myself) disappear into the nether regions, its pretty discouraging.

superspryte


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snassiri wrote:You're right. That's not fair. Edited for fairness

Of course no one wins a derby doing something like that, cause I doubt anyone has 500+ accounts laying around. All I'm saying is it would be nice to break 100 or 200 votes. That would be encouraging. But when my designs, which have all been fairly clever and original (not to sound like I'm full of myself) disappear into the nether regions, its pretty discouraging.

The trick is hitting on something people like. Also, it may not be the designs but the thumbs you choose.

Welcome to the woot derby. It's frustrating at times, but we keep on it. ^_^

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snarkygal


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phzzt wrote:sometimes I feel the same way, but there's a culture you have to pay attention to on woot, and that's the cute, niche-y shirt. Just look at the shirts that get close to the top. They generally have some computer/game reference or odd cute thing about them. If you feel like you're not having fun with the derby go over to designbyhumans.com and you can make what you want and the options are a lot more diverse. But unlike woot, there's a submission check to see if it's good enough. That's where I do my best work anyway.


If you aren't doing your best work here, why are you even here? You just went on my list of people to ignore with that attitude.

phzzt


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snarkygal wrote:If you aren't doing your best work here, why are you even here? You just went on my list of people to ignore with that attitude.


Give me a break. DBH has a rule that says you can't submit an entry to any other site. If you got paid more at DBH why would you submit to woot if you could only choose one? It's not like I don't work hard at both. I just choose to design whatever sounds fun to me for DBH because there aren't any theme restrictions.

geekfactor12


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phzzt wrote:Give me a break. DBH has a rule that says you can't submit an entry to any other site. If you got paid more at DBH why would you submit to woot if you could only choose one? It's not like I don't work hard at both. I just choose to design whatever sounds fun to me for DBH because there aren't any theme restrictions.


Most artists stand to make more money at Woot, actually.

(I have no problem with submitting to multiple sites, though- everyone should, if only to try new things for a new audience. Just wanted to correct that statement, as most DBH winners get only $500 and $250 credit, while Woot winners make a minimum of $1000. A better reason to choose DBH over Woot might be the printing options available, the prestige, or the specific audience they target.)

phzzt


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snarkygal wrote:If you aren't doing your best work here, why are you even here? You just went on my list of people to ignore with that attitude.


Give me a break. DBH has a rule that says you can't submit an entry to any other site. If you got paid more at DBH why would you submit to woot if you could only choose one? It's not like I don't work hard at both. I just choose to design whatever sounds fun to me for DBH because there aren't any theme restrictions.

phzzt


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geekfactor12 wrote:Most artists stand to make more money at Woot, actually.

(I have no problem with submitting to multiple sites, though- everyone should, if only to try new things for a new audience. Just wanted to correct that statement, as most DBH winners get only $500 and $250 credit, while Woot winners make a minimum of $1000. A better reason to choose DBH over Woot might be the printing options available, the prestige, or the specific audience they target.)


Thanks. I don't want to make anyone angry, I'm just trying to say that part of why we're all on woot, I hope, is that it's fun to make things and design for people. Sometimes it's not fun for me to make an alphabet or slogan shirt. I've got one I'm working on that's a really time intensive wolf shirt but it wouldn't fit into any of the themes woot puts up. I worked all evening yesterday on my "nowhere" shirt in this derby and it doesn't get a lot of votes. Big deal. It was fun and I thought it was funny. I just like getting feedback so I get better. So to all of you who take the time to discuss what we're doing and support each other, that's awesome. That's why we design.

gtonfire05


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Love the yeti! Give him some spegitti


snassiri


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phzzt wrote:Thanks. I don't want to make anyone angry, I'm just trying to say that part of why we're all on woot, I hope, is that it's fun to make things and design for people. Sometimes it's not fun for me to make an alphabet or slogan shirt. I've got one I'm working on that's a really time intensive wolf shirt but it wouldn't fit into any of the themes woot puts up. I worked all evening yesterday on my "nowhere" shirt in this derby and it doesn't get a lot of votes. Big deal. It was fun and I thought it was funny. I just like getting feedback so I get better. So to all of you who take the time to discuss what we're doing and support each other, that's awesome. That's why we design.


I've seen DBH and am working on some things for them. I like it too because there are fewer restrictions. There, I can just work on a shirt I think is cool. Over here, it seems you have to design for a specific audience. Which I have been trying to do. I don't think I deserve to win the derby any more than any of the other wonderful designs that get submitted but never make it to the fog, I just get frustrated being down in the echelons with people who have MS Paint style shirts. Getting ~100 votes or into the hotness category would jazz me up and encourage me to come back next week and try harder. But getting barely 25 after a week is rather discouraging. This one seems to be a doing a little better. Maybe I'm on track for ~50.

Ultimately, I am doing stuff that I think is clever and fairly well executed and hoping that other people like it as well. But it doesn't seem like too many people its clever and witty enough. Maybe if the yetis were holding joysticks instead?

Well hey I dont mean to complain about the yetis yet. We'll see what happens with them. Mostly grumbling about past weeks at this point.

What I also like about DBH is that its not just who gets the most votes in a set period. If a shirt is getting good rave reviews, then they make the decision to print it as a shirt of the day. Here on woot the masses win, and there's been plenty of shirts that get voted by the masses but then don't sell out. Seems like a lot of the time people think the idea or graphic or whatever is clever, but when it comes down to it, they probably wouldn't wear the shirt.

sokowa


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snassiri wrote:Ultimately, I am doing stuff that I think is clever and fairly well executed and hoping that other people like it as well. But it doesn't seem like too many people its clever and witty enough. Maybe if the yetis were holding joysticks instead?


I hear ya. Sometimes I'll make something I'm happy and proud of but it gets a lukewarm reception. Other times I make stuff and I'm lucky enough to have it win. I haven't a clue what to do to make it consistent. But in the long run I still have a piece of art that is finished that I can show people and up my skills. I also use this stuff as a timeline of sorts for my skill level. When I started this months ago compared to the things i do now, I can notice a quality difference, so that's also a bonus. If I wasn't part of this derby I probably wouldn't draw as much.

jpers36


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Just wanna say, I think this is the best shirt of the derby. There are so many garbage designs posted on a weekly basis, and their votes reflect it. Some of them are due to laziness, while I think some people genuinely think they're good artists when they're not. Rest assured, snassiri, you're doing quality work, and I have no idea why this design's vote total isn't higher.

snassiri


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jpers36 wrote:Just wanna say, I think this is the best shirt of the derby. There are so many garbage designs posted on a weekly basis, and their votes reflect it. Some of them are due to laziness, while I think some people genuinely think they're good artists when they're not. Rest assured, snassiri, you're doing quality work, and I have no idea why this design's vote total isn't higher.


Thanks, sir. It is encouraging to receive comments like that. Even if I don't get enough votes to encourage me, comments like that are refreshing and encourage me to try, try again.

mjc613


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I am not sure that your thumbnail does this design justice. When the network is slow, many people only vote on what they see in the thunbnail. My advice is to show detail in your big picture and make a thumbnail of your whole design. Check other designs to see what I mean.

As for a specific audience, DBH has an audience too, but it is more of a popularity contest. There are so many designs to choose from, and the site is so hard to maneuver, that I only vote for designs when someone asks me to vote for theirs.

snassiri


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mjc613 wrote:I am not sure that your thumbnail does this design justice. When the network is slow, many people only vote on what they see in the thunbnail. My advice is to show detail in your big picture and make a thumbnail of your whole design. Check other designs to see what I mean.

As for a specific audience, DBH has an audience too, but it is more of a popularity contest. There are so many designs to choose from, and the site is so hard to maneuver, that I only vote for designs when someone asks me to vote for theirs.


My previous entries all showed the entire design in the thumb. I have noticed before that many submit thumbs that only show part of their design, which seemingly would entice someone to click the image to see the whole thing. This week I opted for this sort of thumb because you would not see enough detail if the thumb showed the whole design because it would be too small. I opted to zoom in on the Yetis figuring their "cuteness" would attract people.

Suffice to say, I'm still trying to figure out a formula.

Show me some love people. Get me to 50+ to make me happy. Put me in the top 10 to make me ecstatic

AGrant311


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I voted for this one. I have a thing for Yetis. The two other Woot shirts that have had Yetis on them from the Dailies, both of them I have (Yeti and Robot and Skullngry).
Don't get discouraged. This Woot crowd is a strange one and even changes week to week; some designs you think they'll love and vote on barely break 25 votes, and some designs that are...weird/bad/weak/etc., do very well. Granted sometimes, greatness does Fog and get printed and bad ones stay at the bottom.

snassiri


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snassiri wrote:Yetislavia!

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I just need one more vote to hit 50!!!!

Come on, throw me some sympathy votes! At this point, its not like there is a chance of this being one of your three choices

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