Derby #55b: Derbylympics, 2nd Event - Oxymorons
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eHalcyon


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Breakdancing turtle anyone?
Edit: actually, it's a tortoise.

Originally from the motion derby. Changes include the colours on the rings, the addition of halftones, the removal of the before/after turtles and the shirt colour.

Five colours on navy.

Another Edit: Just to address some concerns that have been brought up...

I realize that there has been a large number of turtle entries recently (and two recent turtle winners). This design was created back in the motion derby. I believe that was only the second derby I'd participated in, so as far as I know turtles hadn't yet attained the status of "meme." I know there were several turtles in that derby, probably because it's just natural to use a turtle in a motion derby. Anyway, it remained one of my favourite designs because of the colours and beause of the ring effect I came up with. I thought it deserved one more shot.

As for the design fitting the title, please realize that this turtle is doing what is known as a "freeze" in breakdancing. I'm a little bit surprised that the people who have brought this up see the motion but not the "stop," as if I had to choose between them, I would say that my image is more representative of the "stop".

My original design included four other turtle images, meant to be "before and after" images of the same turtle as it danced across the shirt. This time around, I kept only the centre turtle as I felt that the other lines conveyed the sense of motion well enough on their own. Perhaps they do too good a job.

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snarkygal


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No.More.Turtles

peppersagooddog


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snarkygal wrote:No.More.Turtles





yeah how come flying penguins can be banned after a couple entries, but turtles trees and black birds aren't?
oh yeah, thats right maybe i should put it back in my sig...

eHalcyon


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Eh, the original design was before the turtle onslaught (as far as I know) and for some reason the only animal I can think of that fits this design is a turtle. If I'd been able to come up with a different animal that worked, I would have used it instead.

Sorry for the turtle. I'll say it's a tortoise instead.

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I think it is cool. I like the colors.

drVox


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the halftones give it a cool, faux-glow effect, I love it :D

Shoppingdingo


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see the motion.. not the stop
dont see the theme

RobotZombieRaptor


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eHalcyon wrote:Breakdancing turtle anyone?
Edit: actually, it's a tortoise.

Originally from the motion derby. Changes include the colours on the rings, the addition of halftones, the removal of the before/after turtles and the shirt colour.

Five colours on navy.


I would wear this in a heartbeat. Want.

eHalcyon


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@morgantj - Thanks. The colours are the main reason I like this design so much - enough to resub it even though it's a turtle.

@drVox - I think this is the first time I've submitted something using halftones, so I'm hoping they would be printable. I don't think they're any finer than what I've seen done already, so I should be safe!

@Shoppingdingo - The tortoise is in a typical breakdancing freeze, in which the motion stops and the dancer holds a cool pose. The motion is implied by the lines and inferred to have taken place before and after the scene captured in the design. In other words, what I've depicted here is actually the "stop" part of the design. I'm glad that you still get a sense of motion! I hope that explanation helps.

@RobotZombieRaptor - Please find many friends to come and vote as well.

@Shoppingdingo again - No gradients here, and it's not on black either. The colour you see in the lower half is the official navy swatch directly sampled from the woot template. Yes, it looks black, but that's what it is. I lightened the top part of the shirt comp background to help differentiate the shirt from the background (it blended in too much before). As for the on-topic comment, I addressed that in the first response.

Edit: Umm... well, Dingo had left a second comment, but it appears to be gone now. Ah well.

Thanks for the comments everyone, both good and bad!

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turtlespeeds2


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Nice use of halftones. Nice concept. Seriously, who doesn't want a breakdancing turtle? GMV.

theinfinityloop


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This looks really cool, E. The colors and the halftone are great. Good job!


gunstrike1


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is that neon green? if it is, +2 for me

echo91


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I love the color scheme on this one... again, I great use of halftone. I am so jealous. GMV

mayokingcomics


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love it gmv


illuminator


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Hmmm... pretty cool.. I would have loved more detail on the tortoise this time. ;)

eHalcyon


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@turtlespeeds2 - It's a tortoise.

@theinfinityloop - Thanks. I really like yours though. I left you a message in the Cyberpub, by the way.

@gunstrike1 - There are five shades of green - two in the halftones and three in the turtle, circles and flare.

@echo91 - I learned to make halftones from a helpful post by bluchez. I know tgentry has posted the same steps. Feel free to PM me if you want me to pass it on.

@mayokingcomics - Very much appreciated!

@illuminator - Thanks. I considered adding more detail this time, but I felt that it wouldn't be in keeping with the rest of the style. Also, that would have taken me a long, long time.

Thanks for the comments everyone, and now especially the votes! It was a really pleasant surprise to find myself so close to the fog when I came home. And now I've right in there. Hopefully to stay.

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ChokingOutTheRadio


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yay more turtles.

paulkremer


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Once again eHalcyon, you are fogged, where you deserve to be!

I hope you get printed this time, this is in my top 2 favs from this particular derby.

narkus


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i'm a little tired of bird silhouettes as a main focus because they don't have much to them, imo, but turtles don't bother me for some reason, maybe because most of the designers' turtles look different from each other to me. anyway, i like your design.


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I know there's some backlash against turtles right now (Turtles. The New Bird. ;-) but I am a sucker for well-done reptile shirts of any ilk, so this GMV.

Anyone want to draw a shirt for my herpetology club? You'd get no money, but lots of warm accolades and a horde of at least 50 people wearing your shirt... Heh...


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brydesign


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How do you make diamond shaped half tone - super cool.

pol3


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Shoppingdingo wrote:see the motion.. not the stop
dont see the theme


love the design (and I luv eHal) but i have to agree..a lot of entries in this derby do have oxymorons in the title but are having a tougher time translating it into imagery.

especially when you try to think of a oxymoronic title to an existing design

interesting to see what gets rejected..

SailorButterfly


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Glad to see you in the fog, eHal!

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sokowa


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Congrats on the fog.

eyeslikesugar


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Ehalc.. I love a lot of your designs, Energizing Bunnies is one I will always want. And this one is no different...until I saw it was a turtle. I'm boycotting turtles. Please make rule 541x, Woot... No. Turtles.

Wow.. I have to point out that tonight's shirt was a turtle shirt (sort of). Being a fan of red's art, I had to buy it. So much for the turtle boycott. llo. You get a vote from me just for my hypocrisy.

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Webfoot08


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eH: I liked the original design when it was 3 turtles - oops, I mean tortoises - and at that time I thought the break dancing one was the cutest. Now here he is back again! I don't wear many "cute" shirts, but this would work for my nephew's birthday, so GMV and I'm glad you brought it back for another go-around. Congratulations on being in the fog!

eHalcyon


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@ChokingOutTheRadio - I know. Isn't it great? But it's actually a tortoise. A dancing tortoise.

@paulkremer - I don't know if I deserve it, but it's certainly a nice feeling. Thanks!

@narkus - I don't think I've seen any other turtle silhouettes around. Turtles in general abound though.

@invisiblecrazy - Thanks for the support. I think I'll try to find some new animals to draw. A few weeks ago I tried hippos, and those came out fairly well.

@brydesign - I use Photoshop. Create a gradient in greyscale and convert it to bitmap mode. Use the method "halftone screen" and choose "Cross" as the shape, set at 45 degrees. Feel free to PM me for more detailed instructions.

@pol3 - Aww, thanks! I disagree in that a lot of entries don't even have oxymorons in the title. I also think that my design works perfectly for the oxymoron I came up with. Actually, I thought of "Stop Motion" first and tried to think of a way to draw it. The only thing I could think of was this design, so I removed the before-and-after silhouettes to better convey the idea of "stop" as opposed to "motion" and added the halftone to give it an extra kick.

@SailorButterfly - Glad to be here, SB!

@sokowa - Thanks. Sorry that your veggie burger couldn't stay here as well!

@eyeslikesugar - I understand where you're coming from. I'll do my best to avoid turtles in the future, but for this design I can't even imagine using another animal. I don't know why, but I just can't picture any other animal breakdancing!

@Webfoot08 - The original had five, although it was only three distinct shapes. The middle guy was my favourite as well. I was never completely satisfied with the other two poses, and I realize now that they probably weren't necessary to the design anyway. Thanks for your comment!


Given how the original design fared in the motion derby, I'm actually really surprised at how well this is doing. Thanks for the comments and votes, everyone. I think I'm going to end up in second place for this round, once again just shy of printing.

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eHalcyon wrote:
As for the design fitting the title, please realize that this turtle is doing what is known as a "freeze" in breakdancing. I'm a little bit surprised that the people who have brought this up see the motion but not the "stop," as if I had to choose between them, I would say that my image is more representative of the "stop".

My original design included four other turtle images, meant to be "before and after" images of the same turtle as it danced across the shirt. This time around, I kept only the centre turtle as I felt that the other lines conveyed the sense of motion well enough on their own. Perhaps they do too good a job.


no.
the motion is implied by the colored lines.. the circles imply spinning, the semi-verticle lines also imply activity.. enforcing the spin..
the fact that all radiate from the "hand" on the ground makes the motion obvious

.. there is no stop in this photo.. only another turtle

eHalcyon


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Shoppingdingo wrote:no.
the motion is implied by the colored lines.. the circles imply spinning, the semi-verticle lines also imply activity.. enforcing the spin..
the fact that all radiate from the "hand" on the ground makes the motion obvious

.. there is no stop in this photo.. only another turtle


The circles are meant to imply the force of the tortoise hitting the ground. If I wanted to imply spinning, the circles would be around the creature itself, rather than below it.

However, even if you take it that the circles mean spinning, it still works. Then you can consider that the tortoise is both stopped and moving - stopped in that it is in the same pose, not moving any limbs, etc. and moving in that it is spinning. It's a different take on the "stop motion" phrase and not what I intended, but it still works.

But yes, the lines are meant to imply motion. That's what I said - the lines imply motion where otherwise it is just a static pose. Again, the pose that the turtle is in is a classic breakdancing freeze.

eHalcyon wrote:The tortoise is in a typical breakdancing freeze, in which the motion stops and the dancer holds a cool pose. The motion is implied by the lines and inferred to have taken place before and after the scene captured in the design. In other words, what I've depicted here is actually the "stop" part of the design.


If you can't see that, I understand. I think I've explained myself well enough. If the rejectionator doesn't see "stop" either and rejects the design, so be it. I won't complain.

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Love this!

SydneyB


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Some of us STILL like turtles and gray birds!!

chichowduckie


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I like wearing shirts from woot that need no explanation or prior understanding. Somehow, strangely enough, this shirt fits. Never thought I would be so into shell-based animals. =P

You have my vote. =]

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jimmyl


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Hope it wins

Paintbait


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It's a cool t-shirt but very vague. I can't, in good conscience vote for this than any other shirt I wouldn't understand out of context, but I would probably just buy it because it's a cool design.

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I don't usually comment, but this shirt is SO awesome. I got the "freeze" immediately, and that is why I love it. Turtles being a meme or not, I would LOVE to have this shirt. Breakdancing is awesome, even more so when done by an animal like a turtle. Though perhaps the next design could include a frog? I don't have many frog shirts!

Cynthia

sozoones


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Very wearable design. Half tones look great. The navy/green combo will really pop-I have several woot shirts with those colors and they look very sharp.

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i don't understand this design but i like it a lot. i haven't noticed how many turtle entries there have been except for today, and i don't understand why you chose a turtle for this.

eHalcyon


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@AnnaJo - Tortoise loves you too!

@SydneyB - I hope "some of us" includes you, Syd.

@chichowduckie - Much appreciated. I feel the same way you do, although not everyone sees the same thing. For those who didn't get the shirt right away, I hope my explanations have helped!

@jimmyl - I do too. It looks like a really close race, but Woot is only printing the first place winner. If I make it, it'll be my first print.

@Paintbait - That's understandable. Thanks for being so polite!

@Carissima17 - I'm glad someone understood it right away! I'll see if I can do a frog next time. I'm not sure if my minimal drawing skills will be up to it, but if I can think of a frog design that fits the next theme, it shall be done.

@sozoones - Thanks! I don't remember any woot shirts with this combo, but I don't doubt that it would be popular.

@ebonyglider - I don't know either, except that a turtle (excuse me, tortoise!) is the only animal I can picture breakdancing. I think it's partially because of the humour in a slow animal doing what is mostly a fast-paced dance, and partially because I love the visual of a turtle spinning on its shell as an equivalent to the various spins in breakdancing. I realized last night that I could have used an actual silhouette of a person here (didn't even occur to me on Sunday), but I can't draw people at all, and I think it's more fun with an animal, even if it's an overused one.

Thanks for the comments, crtiques and votes everyone!

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I like it. I'd wear it.

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This is one of the best designs I've seen on Woot. I really love the colors and how they 'pop' on the shirt. I just hope the actual shirt looks the same! (Some shirts look different when you get them.)

But what if this doesn't win the derby? Can someone still get it? If there's any way you can make this available? If so, mark (at) markdonohoe [dot] com.

Also, what about doing a larger version for a computer wallpaper? I'd be totally jazzed to have this dude 'freezing' on my screen!

Again, mark (at) markdonohoe [dot] com.

Thanks!

1954crisp


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this one takes the cake for me!

roninbear37


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Dude!
Thia shirt is so wicked.
so bummed I missed the vote deadline, but best of wishes mate.

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Sweet Shirt, I really hope this one wins I will totally buy it

solitudelovescompany


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Im really impressed with the halftone work. It really makes it pop. How do you make it in the shape of a circle? I only know how to make halftone lines. If you could help that would be awesome.

eHalcyon


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Hey everyone, thanks for the post-derby comments. Those of you who missed voting - check more often!

@MarquelV - I've been meaning to open a shop on a site like Cafepress for a while, but it may be a long time before that happens. At some point I may try submitting some of my designs to other shirt sites, but eventually anything that has gone unprinted will end up at that shop. Probably. When the shop is opened, I'll be spending a ridiculous amount of time PM-ing or emailing the people who have expressed a desire to be contacted.

As for a wallpaper, I'd be happy to oblige and will post something within a week. What resolution do you use?

@solitudelovescompany - I described the process I used to create the halftone in my response to brydesign in this comment. My halftone here is actually not a circle but a very blurred out version of the turtle. tgentry has described another process to create halftones in Photoshop that I've found is easier, but I've only figured out how to create dot halftones with that method. This one uses diamonds.

Feel free to PM me to ask more specific questions. Keep in mind that I can only help if you use Photoshop though.

Thanks for the comments again, everyone.

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