I decide to do the re-submission on a brown shirt, as I think it further enhances the dirty metal steampunk vibe, and I also re-did various details here and there in attempts to bring more focus into the composition.

The chances of this getting back up top are unlikely, but at least the design is back as part of steampunk woot, and for the people who liked it the first time around.

Again guys, thank you endlessly for all your support and encouragement.

Here is a link to a large composition of version 2 of the design:
http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss34/drakxxxshirts/FULLCOMP.jpg

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Go Draxxx Go! I just gave you your first vote!!!!!

OnyxEyez wrote:Go Draxxx Go! I just gave you your first vote!!!!!

I gots the second one in!

EDIT: (REALLY SORRY I DON"T HAZ MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS.)

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I think the resub looks great on brown - I'm sure this will be at the top of new hotness for a long time ;)

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And I must say, I like the brown better as well.

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Yay! I also like the brown better...

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You should change the link in your siggy too.

revoted with pleasure...I also like this better on the brown...who woulda thought you could improve on perfection?

whisperatdaybreak wrote:Yay! I also like the brown better...

Happy to give it a vote (Again, and may I echo that you were ROBBED!)

Let's get it to the top folks!

TO THE TOP WITH YOU!!! GMV again D.

taylasablerose wrote:Let's get it to the top folks!

Doing my part, GMV once again.

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I don't know.. is brown a woot color shirt??

This is lovely. I like the color change, too, Drakxxx.

yea!

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This looks far far better. I hope you get up there and win. I'll buy it.

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Don't give up hope! I think that your design has a chance of making it back into the fog!

I was amazed that your shirt was rejected because of a color issue. I am actually surprised how often this has been an issue recently. Keep up the good work and submissions!

bradyson wrote:I gots the second one in!

EDIT: (REALLY SORRY I DON"T HAZ MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS.)

i do.

2thFairy wrote:I don't know.. is brown a woot color shirt??

This is lovely. I like the color change, too, Drakxxx.

yea!

Yes, there have been several brown shirts printed on woot.

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Looks way better on brown! Voted!

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Looks tons better on brown, though I must admit it took me a few glances to realize there was a girl on the left. Her dress blends into the smoke, making it fairly hard to notice.

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C'mon everyone! VOTE VOTE VOTE!

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Yay! Voted. Good luck!

whisperatdaybreak wrote:Yes, there have been several brown shirts printed on woot.

duh.

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Nice, re-voted. And I like the brown better ^_^

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You could put it on tie-dye and I'd buy it...

Voted.

whisperatdaybreak wrote:Yes, there have been several brown shirts printed on woot.

I think they were being sarcastic, since the other one was rejected for not being a shirt color they offer... Which they obviously do.

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ahh, I'd know Drakxxx's artwork anywhere! Good looking shirt, sir. See you on the boxart side of town.

2thFairy wrote:duh.

I didn't realize you were being sarcastic...

GMV... good luck kid

mixer23 wrote:I think they were being sarcastic, since the other one was rejected for not being a shirt color they offer... Which they obviously do.

I didn't think of that until after I posted that... You know me... lol

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Welcome back, Drakxxx! And in fine form. GMV for sure.

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VOTED! Yea for re-subbing this!

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I'm just loving the way this is flying up the new hotness. Thank you for resubmitting!!! One of the VERY FEW actual steampunk designs...

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I'm glad you resubbed. Onward to the fog!

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Brown instead of the asphalt (that isn't provided by woot!) definitely a good decision. This one got my vote just like the last one did and I'll be buying it WHEN it makes the fog.

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I was hoping for a color change (to heather....) but still awesome and much better than the asphalt. Got my vote again and definitely a purchase.

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Hey Drakxxx,
I always oil foward to seeing your work. You definitely got my vote on this Sweet image!
Burtocks

Burtocks wrote:Hey Drakxxx,
I always oil foward to seeing your work. You definitely got my vote on this Sweet image!
Burtocks

Sorry my IPhone does a spell check and makes word suggestions, if I forget to preview my text it ends up coming out wrong.

I meant to say that I always look forward to seeing your work.

Buttocks

Burtocks wrote:Hey Drakxxx,
I always oil foward to seeing your work. You definitely got my vote on this Sweet image!
Burtocks

Burtocks wrote:Sorry my IPhone does a spell check and makes word suggestions, if I forget to preview my text it ends up coming out wrong.

I meant to say that I always look forward to seeing your work.

Buttocks

Burtocks wrote:Sorry my IPhone does a spell check and makes word suggestions, if I forget to preview my text it ends up coming out wrong.

I meant to say that I always look forward to seeing your work.

Buttocks

Best spell checker EVER!!!!

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just got home (long day!) and super glad to see this back in the derby!

whether it prints or not, I think people around here recognize true steampunk genius

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I feel like there's a great story to be told behind the characters here. I bet Woot could come up with an awesome write-up for this if it prints.

kinzoku wrote:I feel like there's a great story to be told behind the characters here. I bet Woot could come up with an awesome write-up for this if it prints.

More likely they'll comment on the rejection drama.

Good luck with this one, Drakxxx! And good move switiching over to Cho's wrinkly template! Thanks for being on topic and remaining reasonable in the face of a wild rejection.

Yay! Draxxx, you handled that bogus rejection with a lot of class. This new version is even better. You've got my vote! What I love about this composition is that it alludes to a story...sort of like a movie poster. This is true SteamPunk (thank you!)

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I'm new to shirt.woot as of the last two weeks or so(the first shirt I bought was the steam dinos, which I am super happy about). I was really excited when I saw your original design here and then was subsequently super bummed when I saw it get rejected.

So anywho, I'm really glad you decided to resubmit; it's an awesome design and I definitely voted for it. Hope it makes it!

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Way to go Draxxx! I'm so glad you resubbed, and I'm pimping you in my sig. Get your derby back!

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I like the details but prefer asphalt for personal reasons.

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I like the design, but I honestly wouldn't wear the shirt. It's not really my style, but I was also rather upset at your rejection so I am now voting for this because you deserve to be back up where you were!

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Maybe the rejection was a blessing in disguise? Looks even better in brown. GMV.

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Wow Draxxx, this is a huge improvement over your first shirt. I'm serious! Brown definitely fits the design better and the detail changes are great. The whole design looks more defined overall now. Some of the colors are more vivid, I see more detailed shading also. I'm really liking the new details on the robot. It's very impressive how you managed to greatly improve a design that already started out very solid and well-made. Great job!

P.S. I also applaud your handling of the rejection situation, despite its unfairness. Very impressive!

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keep the votes coming people!

The breadsticks need marinara! happened here, apparently I missed a rejection?!? GMV again, hope you can make it back into the fog.

yay! i was so sad that you got regected. good luck!

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Much better than version one! Glad to see you resubmit. I just wish you hadn't had computer problems and Woot hadn't been laem so we could have seen many more Darkxxx designs...

Oh well!

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Re-voted, and you're in new hotness. So fingers crossed that you make it back up there. I think you can. If it's a ramyb/ramyb win, I may just start listening to those wacky conspiracy theories.
Jen

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You have my bullet vote. Kick that guppy out the FOG!

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Hey! I even *like* the brown a lot better than the asphalt. You're right Draxxx--it works a lot better. Here's hoping it storms to the top.

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Never posted on Woot before. After seeing the amount of work that went into this design and the hoops D had to jump through to get this where it belongs I had to make sure and submit my vote.

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Great this is up again! Honestly this would be the only one I would buy. (don't like the others in the fug right now) Hope it's getting there again!

JenDupre wrote:Re-voted, and you're in new hotness. So fingers crossed that you make it back up there. I think you can. If it's a ramyb/ramyb win, I may just start listening to those wacky conspiracy theories.
Jen

I've been thinking the same thing. This derby has disgusted me more than any other in the past.

Go, go, go!!

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Voted again! Thanks for resubbing Drakxxx! Good luck!

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Great! And it looks so much better on the brown, I think. Maybe the rejection was a blessing in disguise?

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I've never been a fan of chaos designs like this one and I don't really think it fits the theme. Just because the style has Victorian elements and there are machines involved doesn't mean it's steampunk.

(Duplicate post)

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I liked it better on Asphalt shirt. Still GMV, and I hope that you bump out one of the designs in the fog, because you seriously deserved to be printed over any of them in it now. If for no other reason then you are on topic and they are not. Good luck sir.

davengvar wrote:I've never been a fan of chaos designs like this one and I really think it fits the theme. Just because the style has Victorian elements and there are machines involved doesn't mean it's steampunk.

you know, I could see where you'd be coming from if it were just the people with their Steam punk weapons and armor. I could see where you coming from it were just the gears and steam(Steam that is actually white for a change). However, both of them, along with the Steam powered Robotic Dog and the Steam powered Robot that they just caught and have chained up really tie it together as Steam Punk, IMO.

I think it's tragic that this isn't in 1st place right now, as it clearly is the best design for this theme. It just goes to show the sorry state that these derbies have become in the past 7 months.

cobolisdead wrote:you know, I could see where you'd be coming from if it were just the people with their Steam punk weapons and armor. I could see where you coming from it were just the gears and steam(Steam that is actually white for a change). However, both of them, along with the Steam powered Robotic Dog and the Steam powered Robot that they just caught and have chained up really tie it together as Steam Punk, IMO.

I think it's tragic that this isn't in 1st place right now, as it clearly is the best design for this theme. It just goes to show the sorry state that these derbies have become in the past 7 months.

I agree completely. This and Deadfrog's entries should be the top two, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

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woot hates me...it wont let me vote...i've tried like ten times now

davengvar wrote:I've never been a fan of chaos designs like this one and I don't really think it fits the theme. Just because the style has Victorian elements and there are machines involved doesn't mean it's steampunk.

I really hope that was poorly crafted sarcasm.

davengvar wrote:I've never been a fan of chaos designs like this one and I don't really think it fits the theme. Just because the style has Victorian elements and there are machines involved doesn't mean it's steampunk.

There is maybe a design or two other than this one that is a better fit for steampunk.

Gear+steam obviously isn't steampunk, but mechanisms+Victorian garb+steam+everything else this design has going for it is definitely closer, if not a bulls-eye for steampunk.

What, specifically, doesn't make this steampunk? What is steampunk to you? What would have to be done to this design to make it steampunk in your eyes?

HeartlineTwist wrote:There is maybe a design or two other than this one that is a better fit for steampunk.

Gear+steam obviously isn't steampunk, but mechanisms+Victorian garb+steam+everything else this design has going for it is definitely closer, if not a bulls-eye for steampunk.

What, specifically, doesn't make this steampunk? What is steampunk to you? What would have to be done to this design to make it steampunk in your eyes?

A googly eyed dog obviously.

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Yay! Thanks for re-submitting this. I love this shirt. I really hope it gets printed.

I also think it looks better on brown as well.

Go go people. Vote!

It's good to see some nice steampunk art.

When I think steampunk, I'm reminded of EQ's Ak'anon, some levels in Thief 2, and The City of Lost Children.

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This version is even better, gmv!

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I think this is the best entry of the derby.

redskull11 wrote:A googly eyed dog obviously.

Haha, obviously!

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According to: www.shirtderbystats.com

Looks like you need about 100 more votes to get into the fog, and about 250 to print. Of course these numbers keep increasing...

Good Luck.

Mroczkowski wrote:According to: www.shirtderbystats.com

Looks like you need about 100 more votes to get into the fog, and about 250 to print. Of course these numbers keep increasing...

Good Luck.

SDS isn't known for their accuracy. Its only an estimate until things start going back and forth in and out of the fog.

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More votes guys!

adamsw216 wrote:I like the design, but I honestly wouldn't wear the shirt. It's not really my style, but I was also rather upset at your rejection so I am now voting for this because you deserve to be back up where you were!

Same here, and same here.

GMV, and good luck!

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This is the best shirt in the derby, plus, it might be the only one that could make the fog that is actually steampunk! Iot gets my vote

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get back in the fog already damn you

leelaaa wrote:get back in the fog already damn you

have you noticed that no mater how many votes this shirt gets all 4 or at least 3 of the fog shirts get the same or very close number of votes???? kinda odd don't ya think??

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Come on, into the fog with thee!

I SERIOUSLY want to buy this shirt. I am still fuming over the retraction of V1, despite the improvements in this version.

L3g3ndQ wrote:have you noticed that no mater how many votes this shirt gets all 4 or at least 3 of the fog shirts get the same or very close number of votes???? kinda odd don't ya think??

Not really too odd. You are able to vote for as many shirts as you want, so maybe new voters vote for them all?

L3g3ndQ wrote:have you noticed that no mater how many votes this shirt gets all 4 or at least 3 of the fog shirts get the same or very close number of votes???? kinda odd don't ya think??

I do find it odd, but whatever.

mewlink64 wrote:I do find it odd, but whatever.

But the derbies have been so close always. It's not anything new for shirts to be anywhere from 5-50 votes apart.

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thatrobert wrote:

Noooo!!!! Don't say that! We still have 21 hours, right?

ambergreen wrote:Noooo!!!! Don't say that! We still have 21 hours, right?

Don't give up yet.. it has happened before that an entry got the best losers award, but then ended up placing third.

ambergreen wrote:Noooo!!!! Don't say that! We still have 21 hours, right?

Wow, the amount of support for this has been amazing. I truly appreciate it everyone

There is plenty of time left to make this happen, so if you guys want it, you know what to do.

Win or lose this has been an incredible run, and I thank all of you again.

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The fact that 900 votes still doesn't get to the fog really attests to the general popularity of this derby. I think the numbers for "trees" were much lower (too lazy to look). Must be something about steampunk that gets everyone all hot and bothered?

Good Luck!

supersonic213 wrote:The fact that 900 votes still doesn't get to the fog really attests to the general popularity of this derby. I think the numbers for "trees" were much lower (too lazy to look). Must be something about steampunk that gets everyone all hot and bothered?

Good Luck!

You know, good point. Has there always been a link to the derby on the woot.com homepage? There is one now the right side and reads "Shirt.Woot 101: The Steampunk Derby Awaits Your Judgement" and has a picture of a cog. I have never noticed a link to the derby other than the one on the shirt.woot.com page. If there has been one, well, I'm just not observant.

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supersonic213 wrote:The fact that 900 votes still doesn't get to the fog really attests to the general popularity of this derby. I think the numbers for "trees" were much lower (too lazy to look). Must be something about steampunk that gets everyone all hot and bothered?

Good Luck!

I would agree if the top four had any steampunk entries included. Unless, by hot and bothered, you mean that the majority of woot subscribers hate steampunk and have to check in to run up the votes on the entries that aren't.

I am still loving how quickly your entry has risen back from the dust, Drakxxx! I'm hoping you get a print out of this week.

Drakxxx wrote:Wow, the amount of support for this has been amazing. I truly appreciate it everyone

There is plenty of time left to make this happen, so if you guys want it, you know what to do.

Win or lose this has been an incredible run, and I thank all of you again.

Just so you know, I only voted on two this derby: this and the penguin. And if I knew it would really make a difference for this one, I would totally take back that other vote.

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WHY.WON'T.THIS.FOG?

Grrrr.

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Jebus how many votes do you need to get into that fog?? come on people vote for this shirt!!!!

L3g3ndQ wrote:Jebus how many votes do you need to get into that fog?? come on people vote for this shirt!!!!

well abut time!!!! now about 100 more to make sure it is in the top 3??? B^)

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Supportingsupportingsupporting! This HAS to be able to make it to the top three.. look at all those votes! I believe!

L3g3ndQ wrote:well abut time!!!! now about 100 more to make sure it is in the top 3??? B^)

spoke to soon but you are so darn close!! come on people!!! B^)

oh, so glad to see this back in the fog where it belongs!

keep those votes comin'!

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Great to see this in the fog, but it's going to have to keep up these numbers to have a chance it's probably still 100 or more below third place. Here's hoping it can make it.

i don't even want this shirt and i'm going to vote for it because of what i perceive as an injustice.

wow considering this fell out of the fog before being rejected, quite a come back

gijose wrote:wow considering this fell out of the fog before being rejected, quite a come back

Well, designs that are perceived to have been rejected unfairly often win over extra supporters who want to "fight the man".

I'm sure the changes Drakxxx made also had something to do with it (brown shirt, general clean up on the design).

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Wow it made it, Congrats! Hopefully this will get printed.

byrbwr wrote:i don't even want this shirt and i'm going to vote for it because of what i perceive as an injustice.

same here.

I didn't vote for this when it was first submitted because I wouldn't wear it.

But seeing it rejected was definitely upsetting.

I voted to help make sure this one gets back where it should have been all along.

-ac

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Congrats on getting your design exactly where it always belonged.

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Keep the votes coming guys! Let's 'steam'roll this past all the rest! ;)

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Excellent Drak! Great idea for this style.

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The second I saw this week's theme I knew Drakxxx was going to steal the show. Your detailed designs are always so great!

I don't think I'd wear it though.. I feel like the top-hatted man demands too much attention and makes the shirt become less steampunk and gives it too much of a general fantasy novel feel.

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I know this is a smidge off topic, but I would like to take the oppurtunity to remind everyone that he's got a great T looking for support at Camesa. For just about the price of a woot shirt (10 bucks plus shipping) you could get one of his best designs IMHO, with a much smaller print run than woot.

He needs 35 more people to support him and it's a go. If even a small % of people who voted for this shirt and a larger % who commented will support it, we could have it
really soon.

No I'm not Drakxxx in disguise, I just think it's a great shirt that's not getting the love. 8)

The link.

http://cameesa.com/support/design/309/illustrators-block

end plug.

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Congrats on the re-fog! Votes need to keep coming to ensure a print!!!

JenDupre wrote:I know this is a smidge off topic, but I would like to take the oppurtunity to remind everyone that he's got a great T looking for support at Camesa. For just about the price of a woot shirt (10 bucks plus shipping) you could get one of his best designs IMHO, with a much smaller print run than woot.

He needs 35 more people to support him and it's a go. If even a small % of people who voted for this shirt and a larger % who commented will support it, we could have it
really soon.

No I'm not Drakxxx in disguise, I just think it's a great shirt that's not getting the love. 8)

The link.

http://cameesa.com/support/design/309/illustrators-block

end plug.

Pimp it, girlfriend! I can't for Illustrators Block to print.

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Draxxx, obviously even if you don't print this time around, I think we can all agree that you've achieved something amazing. This was your *second try* and you zoomed right back to the top.

You sir, are awesomes.

brown shirt? woot, i need more of those..gmv

marzipanapple wrote:Draxxx, obviously even if you don't print this time around, I think we can all agree that you've achieved something amazing. This was your *second try* and you zoomed right back to the top.

You sir, are awesomes.

No doubt. With that said, go Drakxxx!

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I thought this derby was ending about 25 minutes ago... glad it's still going and this shirt still has a chance to print. I hope it can keep the "steam" it's had all day (sorry).

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Drakxxx, I haven't bought any of your shirts before, though I've often appreciated your designs for their ability to compete with the pink-backpack mafia (ramyb and sekiyoku, mainly...I'm not saying they're not talented... I'm just saying they seem like the Linkin Park of shirt.woot designers: successful with die-hard fans, but their creations are often very similar and almost formulaic). However, despite the fact that I like your shirts I've never felt the need to comment on them before. This shirt, however, I feel is brilliant. It perfectly captures the idea of "steampunk" and displays it in a way that shows precisely why steampunk is so cool. Though it won't mean much, I'm casting my vote for this shirt because it is the only shirt in a while that I feel actually CAPTURES the topic rather than simply incorporating it. For that reason I am voting for this shirt and will encourage all other shirt.wooters to do the same, to restore glory to derbies by awarding them to those who put forth the effort to actually capture what makes a topic interesting and cool rather than to those who have established fan-bases and can produce one similar design after another and still win derbies with little to no innovation or effort. I praise this shirt not just for what it contains, but for what it represents on shirt.woot and I want to thank you for shaking the foundations of the established aristocracy of shirt.woot designers as well as helping to breathe new life into these stale derbies. Thank you.

itoaseik wrote:I thought this derby was ending about 25 minutes ago... glad it's still going and this shirt still has a chance to print. I hope it can keep the "steam" it's had all day (sorry).

Friday at noon: Derby theme is announced, Derby opens for submissions and voting

Following Wednesday at noon: submissions close

Following Thursday at noon: voting closes, winner announced

Hope that helps =)

itoaseik wrote:I thought this derby was ending about 25 minutes ago... glad it's still going and this shirt still has a chance to print. I hope it can keep the "steam" it's had all day (sorry).

Somehow the stupid dog armor one got a ton of votes and just passed this one up. Doesn't look good now

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How did this get de-fogged??!?!!

wootasourous wrote:How did this get de-fogged??!?!!

Just kidding. It's fogged again.

wootasourous wrote:How did this get de-fogged??!?!!

Woot pulled the first design, as it was on the 'wrong shirt colour'.

Come on peoples of the aetherwebs, let's keep pouring in the votes!

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way to go!

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Got my vote again!

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Less than 4 hours...

Congratulations for making it into the fog last night!

Keep the votes pouring in!

maryahari wrote:Friday at noon: Derby theme is announced, Derby opens for submissions and voting

Following Wednesday at noon: submissions close

Following Thursday at noon: voting closes, winner announced

Hope that helps =)

Thanks for clearing that up, I'm sure that has been prominently displayed to me many times on Woot, hopefully I'll remember now. On another note, is there any particular reason Woot does not have a "click on user's name and see their previous entries" function? I've been wishing I could do that for some time.

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I'm happy to see that even though the first entry was rejected, your entry is back in the fog. This just shows how much support you have from us!

itoaseik wrote:Thanks for clearing that up, I'm sure that has been prominently displayed to me many times on Woot, hopefully I'll remember now. On another note, is there any particular reason Woot does not have a "click on user's name and see their previous entries" function? I've been wishing I could do that for some time.

Almost...

Thursday @ noon (CST, Dallas Woot Time): Derby closes, the top 4 Contenders introduced, the next theme is announced, and people start posting ideas overnight.

Friday @ midnight (CST): 1st place revealed and put on sale.

Friday @ noon: Derby opens for submissions and voting

Saturday @ midnight (CST): 2nd place revealed and put on sale.

Sunday @ midnight (CST): 3rd place revealed and put on sale.

Following Wednesday @ noon: submissions close

Following Thursday @ noon: See above...

Cheers!

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Yay! Congrats on getting back to the Fog You deserve it.

Abydos641 wrote:Yay! Congrats on getting back to the Fog You deserve it.

I gotta give it to you man. Even though I usually dislike Drakxxx's work, this one deserved to be in the Fog.

It's rise back to the top was snuggling meteoric.

itoaseik wrote:Thanks for clearing that up, I'm sure that has been prominently displayed to me many times on Woot, hopefully I'll remember now. On another note, is there any particular reason Woot does not have a "click on user's name and see their previous entries" function? I've been wishing I could do that for some time.

Check out ShirtDerbyStats.com, they have a few neat functions there. One keeps an estimate of how many votes the fog contenders most likely have and another logs entries by artist.

BaldBob007 wrote:Check out ShirtDerbyStats.com, they have a few neat functions there. One keeps an estimate of how many votes the fog contenders most likely have and another logs entries by artist.

Yeah I did that a little yesterday to look up entries by artist, but you have to go through by individual derby... then again maybe I'm just being a complainer. So... if SDS is actually correct and there is a tie for 3rd, what happens?

itoaseik wrote:Yeah I did that a little yesterday to look up entries by artist, but you have to go through by individual derby... then again maybe I'm just being a complainer. So... if SDS is actually correct and there is a tie for 3rd, what happens?

From what I understand, Shirt.Woot will actually sell both shirts on Sunday, $10 for both together - but that's hearsay ;) Can anyone verify? I couldn't find it on Shirt.Woot...

That, of course is assuming that SDS is anywhere near close.

yay! a shirt that actually depicts the theme in the fog!

congrats drakxxx!

BaldBob007 wrote:From what I understand, Shirt.Woot will actually sell both shirts on Sunday, $10 for both together …

That, of course is assuming that SDS is anywhere near close.

That makes this decision harder, actually. I think Drakxxx's most vocal supporters dislike Ramy, whether for aesthetic or personal/ethical reasons.

Chances are good that even if we get a twofer on Sunday, I'll pick this up through the Friends-link on Monday to keep my conscience clean.

Valis wrote:That makes this decision harder, actually. I think Drakxxx's most vocal supporters dislike Ramy, whether for aesthetic or personal/ethical reasons.

Chances are good that even if we get a twofer on Sunday, I'll pick this up through the Friends-link on Monday to keep my conscience clean.

It is a sad commentary on who I am personally, as it is petty, but I will probably do the same. I don't want anything to do with the other shirt. I will gladly wait and pay $15 to get just Drakxxx's shirt. Besides, Drakxxx gets residuals from anything after the first day, right? Bonus!

BaldBob007 wrote:From what I understand, Shirt.Woot will actually sell both shirts on Sunday, $10 for both together - but that's hearsay ;) Can anyone verify? I couldn't find it on Shirt.Woot...

That, of course is assuming that SDS is anywhere near close.

Yes, if there is a tie, the tied shirts are sold together for the same price (i.e. $10 for both). The overall number of shirts sold will be maintained, meaning that the number of sales will be cut in half. After the first day, everything goes back to the way it was (except the reckoning will have 28 instead of 27 the following week).

2thFairy wrote:It is a sad commentary on who I am personally, as it is petty, but I will probably do the same. I don't want anything to do with the other shirt. I will gladly wait and pay $15 to get just Drakxxx's shirt. Besides, Drakxxx gets residuals from anything after the first day, right? Bonus!

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well they will get their money for first days sales regardless, so if they tie i intend to have a new roll of toilet paper.

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I think this derby finally proved what's wrong with ramy's legion of fans and shirt.woot... when Drakxxx doesn't win a Steampunk Derby, and ramyb has 2 entries that probably will, there is something wrong in the world.

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well they will get their money for first days sales regardless, so if they tie i intend to have a new roll of toilet paper.

totally true.
i gave grow to a guy that was living on our couch at the time. i think he uses it now to clean his pipe...

BaldBob007 wrote:From what I understand, Shirt.Woot will actually sell both shirts on Sunday, $10 for both together - but that's hearsay ;) Can anyone verify? I couldn't find it on Shirt.Woot...

That, of course is assuming that SDS is anywhere near close.

yep. that's what happens. I remember one time it happening twice in the same derby. For all 3 days, that would have been 5 shirts for $30. Pretty good deal.

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It is beyond shame that this beat Girl in Red.

BillyBcool wrote:It is beyond shame that this beat Girl in Red.

Yeah, total shame a genuine Steampunk design beat out Girl in Red.

BillyBcool wrote:It is beyond shame that this beat Girl in Red.

I think much the opposite. I'm glad this beat out Girl in Red.

BillyBcool wrote:It is beyond shame that this beat Girl in Red.

That is a ridiculous and almost indefensible statement. Yes "Girl in Red" was a cool shirt, but it had almost nothing to do with Steampunk. So, you could say "I preferred Girl in Red" or "I wish Girl in Red had won," but if you are talking about anything more than personal preference then clearly relevance to the theme makes you dead wrong.

BillyBcool wrote:It is beyond shame that this beat Girl in Red.

You're the kind of person that makes me hate these derbies oh so often. Take your ignorance and start a flame war elsewhere.

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Seriously, who would have thought that little red riding hood and the big bad wolf would have been eat out by this...this...monstrosity! I mean look at it, all the gears, and pipes, and clockwork, not to mention the entire victorian theme...sheeesh.

BillyBcool wrote:It is beyond shame that this beat Girl in Red.

The responses to the above post are simply hilarious.

Get over it, guys. I will now say that the voting MAJORITY of Woot couldn't give two flying penguins about the theme. I am almost going to agree that if I am judging Girl in Red and this by what I think looks good on a t-shirt, the race is a lot closer than if I'm judging it by what has a better adherence to theme.

I mean, even if it's not what I would prefer, I can at least recognize that the theme doesn't take precedence over "that looks neat" when it comes to the majority of voters.

As for whether that's a bad thing or not is a harder call past the fact that if the theme is merely a suggestion or guideline, why even bother? Make the themes hyper-vague then and be done with it.

HeartlineTwist wrote:The responses to the above post are simply hilarious.

Get over it, guys. I will now say that the voting MAJORITY of Woot couldn't give two flying penguins about the theme. I am almost going to agree that if I am judging Girl in Red and this by what I think looks good on a t-shirt, the race is a lot closer than if I'm judging it by what has a better adherence to theme.

I mean, even if it's not what I would prefer, I can at least recognize that the theme doesn't take precedence over "that looks neat" when it comes to the majority of voters.

As for whether that's a bad thing or not is a harder call past the fact that if the theme is merely a suggestion or guideline, why even bother? Make the themes hyper-vague then and be done with it.

well i agree that you should vote on what you would like to see on a tee and what you would actually buy and wear... but as for the theme Woot! is the real one to blame for this sad derby. they should have rejected all the off topic shirts from the beginning... granted we may have only had a hand full to vote on but hey that's what rules are for, if you don't want to fallow the rules then you shouldn't play the game! i had high hopes for this derby but was royally let down!! were there great looking shirts?? Heck yea!!! but were there a lot of really great looking steampunk shirts?? nope! not many at all B^(

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I think there's a little to much ink on this shirt. I fear that the minute I get sweaty it would get all gross.

ewaldjw wrote:I think there's a little to much ink on this shirt. I fear that the minute I get sweaty it would get all gross.

no worries, really. A lot of the design incorporates the color of the shirt, so you aren't wearing a huge glob of ink on your chest. I've got Drakxxx's dragon slayer, which looks like it would be heavy but it feels/looks great.

smedgrick wrote:no worries, really. A lot of the design incorporates the color of the shirt, so you aren't wearing a huge glob of ink on your chest. I've got Drakxxx's dragon slayer, which looks like it would be heavy but it feels/looks great.

Actually, there does seem to be a lot of ink on this one. I hadn't noticed it before. Dragon Slayer has the advantage of being on a lighter coloured shirt, whereas with this design they'll first have to lay down an extra layer of white ink. However, I believe there have been several shirts printed relatively recently that use just as much or more ink with nary* a complaint of non-breathability. Maybe Woot is using better ink or a better process or something?

* Yeah, I used the word "nary". What of it?

Thank you for the only entry in the Top 4 that is actually Steampunk! Hope you get printed and sell out man.

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I just looked at SDS again and it had changed the numbers to put this behind by 4... a full day later. Anyone know how their tracking works and if that's any more likely to be right than the previous tie?

Awh, I really wanted this.

eHalcyon wrote: However, I believe there have been several shirts printed relatively recently that use just as much or more ink with nary* a complaint of non-breathability. Maybe Woot is using better ink or a better process or something?

I've also got 'get on the mike', and the whole middle is a couple layers of ink, but it also feels great. You may not want wear this to track practice, but most of woot!'s shirts can be worn in everyday situations.

you got ripped off buddy!

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Wow... this was SO close to being printed...

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I'm rather sad that this didn't make it to print. I was really looking forward to buying one.

SolitudeSeraph wrote:I'm rather sad that this didn't make it to print. I was really looking forward to buying one.

Me too. This whole derby reeked of flail and disappointment.

itoaseik wrote:That is a ridiculous and almost indefensible statement. Yes "Girl in Red" was a cool shirt, but it had almost nothing to do with Steampunk. So, you could say "I preferred Girl in Red" or "I wish Girl in Red had won," but if you are talking about anything more than personal preference then clearly relevance to the theme makes you dead wrong.

Well I apologize for being vague.
I realized later that operaticustopie was clearly more steampunk than girl in red, I just don't personally find operaticus to be quality art.
No flaming, I was just disappointed, which I've cleared by admitting the difference in themes.

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Damnit, I just found out about this now. ONE DAY YOU WILL BE MINE!