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Pucker Ghosts and Friend - Resubbed w/ No Changes

Pucker Ghosts and Friend - Resubbed w/ No Changes
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2thFairy


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kenney9226


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Re: Pucker Ghosts and Friend - Resubbed w/ No Changes


I removed my entry because it seemed unfair to have an hour and forty three minute head start.

And also it's odd that I have such ease and everyone else is having trouble.

mrwednesday


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kenney9226 wrote:I removed my entry because it seemed unfair to have an hour and forty three minute head start.

And also it's odd that I have such ease and everyone else is having trouble.


I appreciate your sense of fair play but nothing really justifies putting seki's garbage into the fog.......

ambergreen


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Well, now I feel compelled to vote for it!

slhampel


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I'm particularly fond of the extraterrestrial in the back. :-)

kenney9226


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slhampel wrote:I'm particularly fond of the extraterrestrial in the back. :-)


Hey, I don't want to get rejected for using a copyrighted character. Let's say that it's "Gertie" wearing her "cowgirl boots," please!

penemue


quality posts: 1 Private Messages penemue
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Glad to see the pucker!! Got my vote.

MasterWolf


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This seems really dumb. But possible I just don't get it.

shirtshark


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MasterWolf wrote:This seems really dumb. But possible I just don't get it.


You don't... It's kind of an inside joke on Shirt.Woot. Kenney has made a pucker design for every derby. I'm hoping he'll win one day.

MaryESP


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This might be my favorite yet...

kylemittskus


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shirtshark wrote:You don't... It's kind of an inside joke on Shirt.Woot. Kenney has made a pucker design for every derby. I'm hoping he'll win one day.


I think we should print him for his sheer dedication.

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AdderXYU


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kylemittskus wrote:I think we should print him for his sheer dedication.


Never reward bad behavior.

I was just browsing the entries, seeing if anything's remotely worth blogging later, and I'm just wondering how an entry entitled "resub - no changes made" is not rejected.

Yes we know Kenney will never print, but seriously, woot, grow a sense of pride in your contest's rules.

ThunderThighs


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AdderXYU wrote:Never reward bad behavior.

I was just browsing the entries, seeing if anything's remotely worth blogging later, and I'm just wondering how an entry entitled "resub - no changes made" is not rejected.

Yes we know Kenney will never print, but seriously, woot, grow a sense of pride in your contest's rules.

Awwwww, don't be hating on the pucker!

Josephus


quality posts: 25 Private Messages Josephus
AdderXYU wrote:Never reward bad behavior.

I was just browsing the entries, seeing if anything's remotely worth blogging later, and I'm just wondering how an entry entitled "resub - no changes made" is not rejected.

Yes we know Kenney will never print, but seriously, woot, grow a sense of pride in your contest's rules.


Adder, kenny originally posted his entry during the time that no-one else could post; there were ony about 3 entries in the derby- his, ramy's zombie dog, and seki's kitten. One or two others were also there. Kenny was in the fog and had a bunch of votes. He actually posted a couple of entries for other people during the period when we were all really frustrated trying to understand how broken the derby could be. He withdrew his entry at that point, showing his solidarity with everyone who was unable to post, then resubmitted it when there started to be other entries begin to arrive. Sadly, nobody else realized what or why he had done what he had done; only a few people voted for him and he never recouped the lost votes. My recollection is that he had about 75 votes at the time.

AdderXYU


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Josephus wrote:Adder, kenny originally posted his entry during the time that no-one else could post; there were ony about 3 entries in the derby- his, ramy's zombie dog, and seki's kitten. One or two others were also there. Kenny was in the fog and had a bunch of votes. He actually posted a couple of entries for other people during the period when we were all really frustrated trying to understand how broken the derby could be. He withdrew his entry at that point, showing his solidarity with everyone who was unable to post, then resubmitted it when there started to be other entries begin to arrive. Sadly, nobody else realized what or why he had done what he had done; only a few people voted for him and he never recouped the lost votes. My recollection is that he had about 75 votes at the time.


I'm pretty sure woot's write up doesn't say "resubmitted entries will be rejected unless you sub it to prove a point, remove it, and then resub it again, and then only if we know it won't win"

Based on woot's rules, this should be rejected. Unless woot should play favorites like they already do.

I don't care. Kenney is insane and probably scary in real life if he's this dedicated to his pucker idea, but this is more a commentary on how pathetic woot's rejection consistency and legitimacy is.

Josephus


quality posts: 25 Private Messages Josephus
AdderXYU wrote:I'm pretty sure woot's write up doesn't say "resubmitted entries will be rejected unless you sub it to prove a point, remove it, and then resub it again, and then only if we know it won't win"

Based on woot's rules, this should be rejected. Unless woot should play favorites like they already do.

I don't care. Kenney is insane and probably scary in real life if he's this dedicated to his pucker idea, but this is more a commentary on how pathetic woot's rejection consistency and legitimacy is.


Oh, well, I just thought you might want to know that his resub wasn't a typical resub of a grenade in front of an oil well, from a previous derby, x3, that in fact it was a new design created for this derby and submitted without pandering or any ugly motives. It made a difference to me, anyway. He also submitted several of his earlier years' halloween puckers during the no-entry allowed period (for the rest of us) all of which he listed as resubbed unchanged, and then withdrew them after the new submissions started to appear.

HalfWheat


quality posts: 18 Private Messages HalfWheat
AdderXYU wrote:I'm pretty sure woot's write up doesn't say "resubmitted entries will be rejected unless you sub it to prove a point, remove it, and then resub it again, and then only if we know it won't win"

Based on woot's rules, this should be rejected. Unless woot should play favorites like they already do.

I don't care. Kenney is insane and probably scary in real life if he's this dedicated to his pucker idea, but this is more a commentary on how pathetic woot's rejection consistency and legitimacy is.


I don't think I'm understanding this. Is there a rule against pulling and resubmitting an entry? I've seen plenty where an artist has pulled their entry and resubmitted with nothing changed in the design, but maybe the thumbnail is tweaked. Is that grounds for rejection?

Josephus


quality posts: 25 Private Messages Josephus
HalfWheat wrote:I don't think I'm understanding this. Is there a rule against pulling and resubmitting an entry? I've seen plenty where an artist has pulled their entry and resubmitted with nothing changed in the design, but maybe the thumbnail is tweaked. Is that grounds for rejection?


Woot has several times rejected designs for being direct resubs, and talked about it at the start of this derby,

Resubmissions from past Halloween Derbies are strongly discouraged, and will be rejected if not substantially altered from the previous submission. We'll be the judges of what "substantially" means, so as always, assume the worst or be disappointed.

HalfWheat


quality posts: 18 Private Messages HalfWheat
Josephus wrote:


I thought it was a new entry created for this derby that he pulled and resubmitted again. I know he submitted and pulled a bunch of old ones as a test of the system, but I thought this was his intended new submission.

If it was a direct resub from a different derby, then it should have been rejected, for sure.

Josephus


quality posts: 25 Private Messages Josephus
HalfWheat wrote:I thought it was a new entry created for this derby that he pulled and resubmitted again. I know he submitted and pulled a bunch of old ones as a test of the system, but I thought this was his intended new submission.

If it was a direct resub from a different derby, then it should have been rejected, for sure.


sorry I didn't see this before I went to bed. It is a new design.

in fact it was a new design created for this derby and submitted without pandering or any ugly motives. It made a difference to me, anyway. He also submitted several of his earlier years' halloween puckers during the no-entry allowed period (for the rest of us) all of which he listed as resubbed unchanged, and then withdrew them after the new submissions started to appear.

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