Not turtles, CANDY!

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Thanks guys.

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I love that bat.

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Very creepy. A friend of mine would love it.
+1

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This one I love.

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nice... probably one of my favorite pieces you have done!

My favorite out of your current designs. Very simple yet has a much darker feel to it. One of your best designs yet.

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WIN. Is this supposed to remind me of Sam from "Trick or Treat"? Cause it definitely does and it is AMAZING. As was that movie. As is your art. Really well done! GMV

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WIN. Is this supposed to remind me of Sam from "Trick or Treat"? Cause it definitely does and it is AMAZING. As was that movie. As is your art. Really well done! GMV

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only in my best dream would I ever dare to hope for 3 unbelievable Drakxxx designs printing in one weekend....

I will vote, and I will hope.

EinnaFK wrote:WIN. Is this supposed to remind me of Sam from "Trick or Treat"? Cause it definitely does and it is AMAZING. As was that movie. As is your art. Really well done! GMV

I noticed this too! That movie is awesome!

EinnaFK wrote:WIN. Is this supposed to remind me of Sam from "Trick or Treat"? Cause it definitely does and it is AMAZING. As was that movie. As is your art. Really well done! GMV

YES! Greatest Halloween film in years. I was seriously blown away by how fantastic Trick r Treat was.

I saw some images of Sam before I actually got to see the movie, and the character inspired me to do this design.

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I so want this to win, it'll go so nicely with my Scareperson which finally just arrived yesterday!

Drakxxx wrote:YES! Greatest Halloween film in years. I was seriously blown away by how fantastic Trick r Treat was.

I saw some images of Sam before I actually got to see the movie, and the character inspired me to do this design.

you just made me start singing that song from ATHF... I WANT CANDY!

+1

love the stuff this week Draxxx

graffd02 wrote:you just made me start singing that song from ATHF... I WANT CANDY!

I want candy bubblegum and taffy

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I like this one the best of your 3 this week, even though they are all truly amazing. The other 2 are impressively detailed/intricate and seem very laborious, but I just like the wickedly cute feel of this one the best. The bat is definitely a really nice touch - was that one of those things that you just kinda stuck in there, then thought to yourself, "wow, that's pretty neat - I'm so glad that I came up with that!"

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of a graphic tablet do you use? I have an 8x6 genius tablet that I find way too delayed and unresponsive to my sketching style (I guess I couldn't expect much from a $50 tablet, but it was all I could afford), so I usually just draw on paper, scan it in, and photoshop it, but the results have been rather disappointing compared to my straight up colored pencil works. I may put aside some $$ for something better if the difference is really worth it, unless tablet drawing is just always going to be a very different feel that I simply need to get used to...

Again, amazing work as always!

Altheahelaine wrote:I want candy bubblegum and taffy

I was thinking the same thing as soon as he posted it but I didn't want to derail the thread.

Drakxxx wrote:Not turtles, CANDY!

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Thanks guys.

Awesome as always... Yay for two drakxxx shirts fogged.

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Very unique design love the style, such a dark eerie feeling, I could easily see this same character sitting ontop of a corpse as well, just the creepy feeling I get from it, definitely gmv.

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i always look at the amount of detail in each of your illustrations and find myself in awe.

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It's wonderfully drawn. It's creepy. It's detailed as hell. It's very, very Halloween. That goes for your other two as well. Good luck, and GMV.

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Awesome! I think your style lends itself particularly well to the Halloween theme! With most derbies I usually love your style, but aren't always into your subject matter, however, your Halloween shirts are the best of both for me! GREAT job!!!

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Okay, THIS has gmv. Wow.

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Haha, I like toowdles! Good reference

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You are the King of Halloween hands down. I have voted for all 3 of your entries this week.

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yup, scary. not kiddish

GMV!

And I like Drakxxx

snarkygal wrote:You are the King of Halloween hands down. I have voted for all 3 of your entries this week.

There are four now. Don't forget to vote for this one.

Jestik wrote:only in my best dream would I ever dare to hope for 3 unbelievable Drakxxx designs printing in one weekend....

I will vote, and I will hope.

Ditto

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I'm not sure if you've seen the movie Trick 'r Treat, but this character reminds me of the creepy pumpkin kid from that movie. Awesome! GMV

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Damn, draxxx, you are just going to clean up in this Derby.

I would think of replacing the kid with the singer of BowWowWow...and keep the title

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Absolutely love this one. It creeps me out- but in a great, spooky 'it's halloween' kind of way!
:-)
Can't wait to buy one!

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This design is not TOO bad, but it could use a zombie dog and maybe a kitten coming out of a pumpkin. Just my two cents.

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drakxxx has a better formula than RAMYB and SEKIYOKU.

weird/creepy art on brown/blue/red.

is it just me or can anyone else not read the rest of the rejection reason? all i get is "Rejected because: After some debate, I think we have to reject this. There's ' " which is sad, because i really wanted this shirt

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WHAT?! What's the reason??

retrokd wrote:is it just me or can anyone else not read the rest of the rejection reason? all i get is "Rejected because: After some debate, I think we have to reject this. There's ' " which is sad, because i really wanted this shirt

I can't read it either. And I really wanted this one too. I am sad.

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what the eff? This was my favorite of yours too.

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Probably rejected b/c it looks like every other entry he has done.

Don't get me wrong I liked it.

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I hate the WOOT Rejectionators reasons. How in the hell can we learn not to do with crappy reasons like this one?

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WHAT THE fire Rocket Number 9 . This is rejected and pumpkin tiger remains? I can see why, due to copyright laws on the character Sam from Trick r Treat, this might be rejected. What I can NOT see is why Seki's has also not been rejected since it is the EXACT same design previously entered with shiny new colors attached. You fail me again woot.

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If this is considered way too close to that Trick r Treat character than that orange firing Rocket Number 9 cat is entirely too close to Puss in Boots.

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Are they kidding? Why? This a great shirt...

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I have only one acronym to say:
watching the films?

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Definitely want an explanation for why this was rejected. Looks like it was cut off. Great design, hopefully for whatever reason is was rejected for a slight tweek will allow it to be submitted again.

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umm... i really dont understand why this is rejected...

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Just colour him orange and resubmit.

Ridiculous.

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woot = fail

again.

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I don't get why this was rejected!! I really wanted it...

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Noooooooo !!! I can't believe this was rejected!! I NEED a drakxxx shirt for Halloween this year. Get with it, woot!!!

kender42 wrote:Probably rejected b/c it looks like every other entry he has done.

Don't get me wrong I liked it.

If this was the case, then RamyB and Seki would be rejected every derby

aw, come on woot. you reject this, but not the cat/pumpkin one?

this was an awesome design, and if it was rejected for the similarity to Trick r Treat, that's messed up.

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Wow! This rejectioin is really bothering me now. I'm now making everyone that I know who has a WOOT account vote for Drakxxx's other remaining designs out of sheer spite.

kungvoodoo wrote:Wow! This rejectioin is really bothering me now. I'm now making everyone that I know who has a WOOT account vote for Drakxxx's other remaining designs out of sheer spite.

Thats great. So instead of voting for something you want you are going to resort to spite voting and screw the other artists on the site.

Good job.

kungvoodoo wrote:Wow! This rejectioin is really bothering me now. I'm now making everyone that I know who has a WOOT account vote for Drakxxx's other remaining designs out of sheer spite.

Do this, and you're no better than Turbographx and his ramy voting Dr. Clayton Forrester clones.

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Well, that's pretty frustrating.

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OK I have never posted before but this is just stupid!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY REJECT THE BEST SHIRT!!!!!!!!!! Please tell me where I can buy this shirt. If you make it we will buy it. I feel so bad for you.

kungvoodoo wrote:Wow! This rejectioin is really bothering me now. I'm now making everyone that I know who has a WOOT account vote for Drakxxx's other remaining designs out of sheer spite.

Sorry, but I don't vote for or against anyone because of spite, and I doubt Drakxxx would be amused at the idea. If you want a different Drakxxx shirt now that this one is gone, that's a different thing.

This just makes me glad I bought Scareperson when it was available.

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I'd like to add: please tell us why the hell this was rejected. For that matter, why did you take the time to reject this and not the Sekiyoku design that is essentially a flip off at woot?

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I think this was the nail in the coffin for me : /

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What's wrong, guys? "There's '" seems like a valid reason. *chortle*

Really... How is this rejected, and not the tiger-clone? I never thought a shirt competition would have so much drama.

At least expand on your explanation, woot. You have nutty contradictory rejection policies.

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Why was this rejected? Kind of frustrating that the reason was cut off because Drakxxx won't be sure what to fix to resub. I hope they get a quick response on this one to give him a fair chance to fix whatever it is. If I had to guess maybe because the background color isn't clear on the main comp (although it is pretty clear on the tshirt?)...

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If this is about being too similar to that sackboy thing from Trick r Treat I just don't see how it's close enough warrant rejection. That type of character is not unique to that movie. Hell we used to make little fellas just like that in art class in elementary school 20 years ago. But clearly it's too late now.

What REALLY offends me is that the rejectionator showed up to axe a good Drakxxx design but didn't eliminate the icanhazcheeseburger tiger pumpkin shirt from you know who.

watch the HVS!!!!!

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I'm so disappointed this got rejected. Last night somebody smashed my pumpkin and now the shirt I really wanted to win got rejected. My Halloween spirit is ruined.

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can't believe this was rejected. it really is my absolute favorite in this derby. his others are great, too, but this one just has such a wonderful feel to it and deserved to win.

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This embrangles.

Wow, you know guys, I'd be more than willing to resubmit if I know what the exact reason I was rejected for. As others have noticed, the reason seems to be cut a bit short.

Anyways, if the character is to similar to the Trick r Treat character, I'll change him around.
But if the reason is more along the lines of what Mr. Gentry mentioned as a possible composition issue, well I'd need to know that as well.

This combined with the submission issues myself and many of the other artists had yesterday has certainly threw a wrench in my Halloween fun here at woot, but as I said, I'd be totally willing to resubmit this design, as it seems to be the only real chance I had at giving you guys a Halloween design this week.

So please woot, do me a favor, and let me know why you rejected me, so I can resubmit.This is the HALLOWEEN derby I've been waiting for, and I have no intentions of calling it a total loss yet.

Drakxxx wrote:Wow, you know guys, I'd be more than willing to resubmit if I know what the exact reason I was rejected for. As others have noticed, the reason seems to be cut a bit short.

Anyways, if the character is to similar to the Trick r Treat character, I'll change him around.
But if the reason is more along the lines of what Mr. Gentry mentioned as a possible composition issue, well I'd need to know that as well.

This combined with the submission issues myself and many of the other artists had yesterday has certainly threw a wrench in my Halloween fun here at woot, but as I said, I'd be totally willing to resubmit this design, as it seems to be the only real chance I had at giving you guys a Halloween design this week.

So please woot, do me a favor, and let me know why you rejected me, so I can resubmit.This is the HALLOWEEN derby I've been waiting for, and I have no intentions of calling it a total loss yet.

Agreed, they need to let you know the full reason.

**edit**

I looked at the poster for the Trick r Treat movie and I am almost willing to bet that is the reason.

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Woot, please give Drakxxx the knowledge necessary for him to resubmit this. I think that if he can fix whatever it is that you have rejected the design for, we can get it voted back up into the fog.
It is a great design, and does not deserve to simply fade away without some explanation.

Good luck Drakxxx. Your work is very distinct, and while I often do not find myself liking it, I always find myself impressed with it. This shirt is one of yours that I both like and am impressed by- so this juxtaposition cannot be swept away!

kender42 wrote:Agreed, they need to let you know the full reason.

**edit**

I looked at the poster for the Trick r Treat movie and I am almost willing to bet that is the reason.

Yeah that's gotta be the reason. It's really close.
But that's a little silly. This seems more like a coincidence than a blatant copyright infringement.
Every creepy looking voodoo doll wielding a knife with a pumpkin in the picture is an infringement in that case.

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What the? That cut off rejection is just baffling. Did the rejectionator say Candlejack or someth

Drakxxx wrote:Wow, you know guys, I'd be more than willing to resubmit if I know what the exact reason I was rejected for. As others have noticed, the reason seems to be cut a bit short.

Anyways, if the character is to similar to the Trick r Treat character, I'll change him around.
But if the reason is more along the lines of what Mr. Gentry mentioned as a possible composition issue, well I'd need to know that as well.

This combined with the submission issues myself and many of the other artists had yesterday has certainly threw a wrench in my Halloween fun here at woot, but as I said, I'd be totally willing to resubmit this design, as it seems to be the only real chance I had at giving you guys a Halloween design this week.

So please woot, do me a favor, and let me know why you rejected me, so I can resubmit.This is the HALLOWEEN derby I've been waiting for, and I have no intentions of calling it a total loss yet.

give it cat ears, color it orange, and put a background you used before and resubmit.

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I demand the Woot kitties answer why this was rejected! It is a fine piece of art and makes great use of the subject matter. I really like the way it is drawn as if a colored pencil technique was used. Just cause those kitties at the Woot do not have an appreciation for fine work the least they can do is give plausible reason for rejection, but what would you expect from a bunch of kitties anyways!

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I should have known better to get my hopes up when I saw the announcement of the Halloween derby. From that point on, this whole derby has been a huge disappointment.

From the completely unfair start, allowing a favored few to gain a several hour head start on the voting, to this point of my favorite artist getting arbitrarily shafted while other crapola is allowed to stay.

shoulda known better.

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oh- and I'll add it seems obvious that woot doesn't like Drakxxx's stuff. From the Steampunk Derby debacle, to turning down a great seasonal daily he offered with "Requim of the Soul Stealer" design, to this design getting rejected out of nowhere, with no explanation why, and without giving the artist a chance to know what to fix.

just a lot of stuff like this happens to Drakxxx. No wonder a lot of the good artists leave here after a while...

Jestik wrote:I should have known better to get my hopes up when I saw the announcement of the Halloween derby. From that point on, this whole derby has been a huge disappointment.

From the completely unfair start, allowing a favored few to gain a several hour head start on the voting, to this point of my favorite artist getting arbitrarily shafted while other crapola is allowed to stay.

shoulda known better.

Everything you said. I don't post a lot here, but I do follow the derbies and the comments pretty faithfully, and I'm extremely disappointed at the turn this derby has taken. Surprised--not really, but disappointed nonetheless.

Drakxxx wrote:Wow, you know guys, I'd be more than willing to resubmit if I know what the exact reason I was rejected for. As others have noticed, the reason seems to be cut a bit short.

Anyways, if the character is to similar to the Trick r Treat character, I'll change him around.
But if the reason is more along the lines of what Mr. Gentry mentioned as a possible composition issue, well I'd need to know that as well.

This combined with the submission issues myself and many of the other artists had yesterday has certainly threw a wrench in my Halloween fun here at woot, but as I said, I'd be totally willing to resubmit this design, as it seems to be the only real chance I had at giving you guys a Halloween design this week.

So please woot, do me a favor, and let me know why you rejected me, so I can resubmit.This is the HALLOWEEN derby I've been waiting for, and I have no intentions of calling it a total loss yet.

i am thoroughly pissed off about this rejection. first that god-awful kitten shirt comes in and knocks one of youre prints out of the fog, then woot rejects the other one! what the hell is going on?

ive been told that in order to reject an entry out of the fog, woot has to have a meeting and decide. given that they were already meeting so they could reject this shirt and give you the slip with the explanation, WHY DIDNT THEY ALSO REJECT THAT STUPID KITTEN ENTRY?? why do we have to sit and watch stupid scaffolding move up while your entries move down or get rejected? i regret i only have one vote to give you, drakxxx. i feel like woot is deliberately trying to screw you over in this, and i wish there was something i could do about it...

Jestik wrote:I should have known better to get my hopes up when I saw the announcement of the Halloween derby. From that point on, this whole derby has been a huge disappointment.

From the completely unfair start, allowing a favored few to gain a several hour head start on the voting, to this point of my favorite artist getting arbitrarily shafted while other crapola is allowed to stay.

shoulda known better.

I appreciate all your support guys. I emailed Barbara at woot and asked her if she could tell me what exactly I got rejected for so I can make changes and resubmit.

Regardless if or when I hear back from her, I'm going to assume it's the character's likeness to an existing one, and change that around. I'll be resubmitting this evening for sure.

gumberculees wrote:i am thoroughly pissed off about this rejection. first that god-awful kitten shirt comes in and knocks one of youre prints out of the fog, then woot rejects the other one! what the hell is going on?

ive been told that in order to reject an entry out of the fog, woot has to have a meeting and decide. given that they were already meeting so they could reject this shirt and give you the slip with the explanation, WHY DIDNT THEY ALSO REJECT THAT STUPID KITTEN ENTRY?? why do we have to sit and watch stupid scaffolding move up while your entries move down or get rejected? i regret i only have one vote to give you, drakxxx. i feel like woot is deliberately trying to screw you over in this, and i wish there was something i could do about it...

I just want to echo everyone else's disappointment with how this derby is going and how Woot is handling it. How Woot can reject this entry and not reject the orange kitten after they already rejected the purple kitten is mindboggling. And then to reject this with absolutely no reason given, is unfair on Woot's part. I can only hope that my other favorite Drakxxx submission of this derby, requiem of a soul stealer, somehow makes it into the fog.

I'd like to end this on a positive note, and say thank you Drakxxx for submitting such awesome designs.

Drakxxx wrote:I appreciate all your support guys. I emailed Barbara at woot and asked her if she could tell me what exactly I got rejected for so I can make changes and resubmit.

Regardless if or when I hear back from her, I'm going to assume it's the character's likeness to an existing one, and change that around. I'll be resubmitting this evening for sure.

If I had to bet, I'd say that's it. I suspect the voters will respond well to whatever changes you make.

Drakxxx wrote:I appreciate all your support guys. I emailed Barbara at woot and asked her if she could tell me what exactly I got rejected for so I can make changes and resubmit.

Regardless if or when I hear back from her, I'm going to assume it's the character's likeness to an existing one, and change that around. I'll be resubmitting this evening for sure.

Thank you Drakxxx. I can't wait to see how your resubmission looks.

Drakxxx wrote:I appreciate all your support guys. I emailed Barbara at woot and asked her if she could tell me what exactly I got rejected for so I can make changes and resubmit.

Regardless if or when I hear back from her, I'm going to assume it's the character's likeness to an existing one, and change that around. I'll be resubmitting this evening for sure.

Just make sure you change more than just the color of his clothes dude, unless you want to make a point or something.. :-D

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After looking at the two versions of the Trick r Treat movie posters, I'd say that's exactly the reason it was rejected. There are elements from both posters in this shirt, almost like they were combined into one. I'm not sure a resub would help since the main character of your shirt appears to be the problem.

jumcdona wrote:After looking at the two versions of the Trick r Treat movie posters, I'd say that's exactly the reason it was rejected. There are elements from both posters in this shirt, almost like they were combined into one. I'm not sure a resub would help since the main character of your shirt appears to be the problem.

Looking at the posters, I'm guessing that's the issue as well.

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i actually watched trick r treat for the first time last night and if this was rejected due to similarities than there is one large fundamental problem...the trick r treat movie incorporated a variety of elements from commonly told and commonly known tales of horror or halloween. so yes there are similar elements however it is not a rip off of the movie nor does it appear that it is meant to be the character from the movie. almost every part of the four tales from the trick r treat movie came from stories that have been told over and over again. what made the movie unique was tying those tales together. i personally do not see the rejection problem here. the character's head is not shaped the same, he is not attired the same, does not have the same face or even a similar face for that matter, in fact the way his head is done is more reminiscent of a scarecrow's head than the character of the movie. it's a creepy little ragheaded kid on jack o'laterns....elements i associate with halloween. so while yes it might invoke the image of sam in your head ....it's not sam

so woot, the company that consistently prints live traces, copyrighted images and weak parodies of copyrighted characters thinks this is too similar...wow

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Jesus tapdancing Christ, I am so pissed right now I could spit. This is the HALLOWEEN derby, Drakkk's time to shine, and his top voted shirt was rejected for the reason of " ' "???

I really wasn't sure that woot was as screwed up as a lot of people have been claiming, but this definitely confirms it for me.

Ginnna wrote:Jesus tapdancing Christ, I am so pissed right now I could spit. This is the HALLOWEEN derby, Drakkk's time to shine, and his top voted shirt was rejected for the reason of " ' "???

I really wasn't sure that woot was as screwed up as a lot of people have been claiming, but this definitely confirms it for me.

you should remember he got screwed over during the steampunk derby too. and guess who printed twice during that derby? ramyb

they should change the address to screwdrakxxx.woot.com

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Wow, once again Drakxxx gets shafted here at woot... Hopefully us voters can give you enough of a push to get you back into the fog(similar to the steampunk derby, but with a better outcome)

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Ok, let's make this very clear from the start: Of Drakxxx's three entries (I don't count that cartoony one because it feels too rushed and sloppy to associate), this is the one I feel deserved a print least. Part of printability is wearability, and I just can't see how this is more wearable than his other work. I think Requiem of a Soul Stealer is easily his best this week... how ironic that woot also declined that one too.

That said, it ALSO deserves a reason for rejection. That is BASIC RESPECT. If woot could find the time to reject it, they could find the time to log in and post in the thread when they realized they didn't have a full reason. If they were going to make a rare weekend rejection, they should have been prepared to make the reason well-known. It would help Drakxxx fix the piece easier, and also help his fans quell any anger if it was some sort of copyright issue.

The big question is also "why sunday?" To me, there are only two reasons: either they considered it a huge submission sin, or they wanted to give Drakxxx more time to fix it and have a fighting chance. If it's the latter, it's even more reason they should have taken the time to make sure the full submission reason was written out.

...but if it's the former? Why the hell wasn't MAI PUMPKIN rejected too? It's not like they didn't see it in the fog while rejecting Drakxxx's. What could possibly be wrong with Drakxxx's that is worse than resubbing a rejected piece with a different color scheme as if that makes it different? It makes woot look as though they WANT that to print. It's pathetic and disgusting that they'd target one and not spend a little extra time to knock off what they all know is an illegitimate pile of scaffolding.

It feels like Sokowa's "Far Side" rejection. An un-shown comic garnered her a rejection, while SIMILAR SHIRTS EXISTING didn't stop Tuesday's gonna be rough from printing. Just the same, Drakxxx gets rejected for (probably... who knows if they don't tell us) looking vaguely like a horror film, while a shirt that was already rejected sits pretty in the fog untouched, and another with at least as much similarity to Candy Corn Cannibalism as Drakxxx's piece has to Trick or Treat is skyrocketing toward the fog itself. Basically, if we are to believe that one rejection is warranted for non-shirt similarity, then pieces with EQUAL similarity to ACTUAL SHIRTS should be rejected also. If Drakxxx is gone, so should both of those, for the SAME EXACT REASONS. I hope we've all tattled?

It's more of the same, woot. You do not know how to run your site. You play favorites, and your favorites are the ones who need the least defense. This is one more example of you showing zero respect for the designers who truly came into their own because of your site, in favor of the designers who manipulate your site to make thousands of dollars. Either admit that you don't respect art, only money, or start treating your designers in a way that reflects you knowing or caring about art and design. Because the way you're going about it now makes you look like a pile of s'

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This is painful to watch.

Drakxxx, I always love to see your stuff. You haven't put out something I've really loved in a few derbies and a lot of your designs fall within a narrow range, stylistically, but I have great respect for you as an artist. Even more now seeing how you are handling this derby.

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What the hey? And this is why I no longer even look at the derbies - except very rarely.

Best of luck Drakxxx. You rule this theme and just in general.

AdderXYU wrote:Ok, let's make this very clear from the start: Of Drakxxx's three entries (I don't count that cartoony one because it feels too rushed and sloppy to associate), this is the one I feel deserved a print least. Part of printability is wearability, and I just can't see how this is more wearable than his other work. I think Requiem of a Soul Stealer is easily his best this week... how ironic that woot also declined that one too.

That said, it ALSO deserves a reason for rejection. That is BASIC RESPECT. If woot could find the time to reject it, they could find the time to log in and post in the thread when they realized they didn't have a full reason. If they were going to make a rare weekend rejection, they should have been prepared to make the reason well-known. It would help Drakxxx fix the piece easier, and also help his fans quell any anger if it was some sort of copyright issue.

The big question is also "why sunday?" To me, there are only two reasons: either they considered it a huge submission sin, or they wanted to give Drakxxx more time to fix it and have a fighting chance. If it's the latter, it's even more reason they should have taken the time to make sure the full submission reason was written out.

...but if it's the former? Why the hell wasn't MAI PUMPKIN rejected too? It's not like they didn't see it in the fog while rejecting Drakxxx's. What could possibly be wrong with Drakxxx's that is worse than resubbing a rejected piece with a different color scheme as if that makes it different? It makes woot look as though they WANT that to print. It's pathetic and disgusting that they'd target one and not spend a little extra time to knock off what they all know is an illegitimate pile of scaffolding.

It feels like Sokowa's "Far Side" rejection. An un-shown comic garnered her a rejection, while SIMILAR SHIRTS EXISTING didn't stop Tuesday's gonna be rough from printing. Just the same, Drakxxx gets rejected for (probably... who knows if they don't tell us) looking vaguely like a horror film, while a shirt that was already rejected sits pretty in the fog untouched, and another with at least as much similarity to Candy Corn Cannibalism as Drakxxx's piece has to Trick or Treat is skyrocketing toward the fog itself. Basically, if we are to believe that one rejection is warranted for non-shirt similarity, then pieces with EQUAL similarity to ACTUAL SHIRTS should be rejected also. If Drakxxx is gone, so should both of those, for the SAME EXACT REASONS. I hope we've all tattled?

It's more of the same, woot. You do not know how to run your site. You play favorites, and your favorites are the ones who need the least defense. This is one more example of you showing zero respect for the designers who truly came into their own because of your site, in favor of the designers who manipulate your site to make thousands of dollars. Either admit that you don't respect art, only money, or start treating your designers in a way that reflects you knowing or caring about art and design. Because the way you're going about it now makes you look like a pile of s'

your links are broken

AdderXYU wrote:Ok, let's make this very clear from the start: Of Drakxxx's three entries (I don't count that cartoony one because it feels too rushed and sloppy to associate), this is the one I feel deserved a print least. Part of printability is wearability, and I just can't see how this is more wearable than his other work. I think Requiem of a Soul Stealer is easily his best this week... how ironic that woot also declined that one too.

That said, it ALSO deserves a reason for rejection. That is BASIC RESPECT. If woot could find the time to reject it, they could find the time to log in and post in the thread when they realized they didn't have a full reason. If they were going to make a rare weekend rejection, they should have been prepared to make the reason well-known. It would help Drakxxx fix the piece easier, and also help his fans quell any anger if it was some sort of copyright issue.

The big question is also "why sunday?" To me, there are only two reasons: either they considered it a huge submission sin, or they wanted to give Drakxxx more time to fix it and have a fighting chance. If it's the latter, it's even more reason they should have taken the time to make sure the full submission reason was written out.

...but if it's the former? Why the hell wasn't MAI PUMPKIN rejected too? It's not like they didn't see it in the fog while rejecting Drakxxx's. What could possibly be wrong with Drakxxx's that is worse than resubbing a rejected piece with a different color scheme as if that makes it different? It makes woot look as though they WANT that to print. It's pathetic and disgusting that they'd target one and not spend a little extra time to knock off what they all know is an illegitimate pile of scaffolding.

It feels like Sokowa's "Far Side" rejection. An un-shown comic garnered her a rejection, while SIMILAR SHIRTS EXISTING didn't stop Tuesday's gonna be rough from printing. Just the same, Drakxxx gets rejected for (probably... who knows if they don't tell us) looking vaguely like a horror film, while a shirt that was already rejected sits pretty in the fog untouched, and another with at least as much similarity to Candy Corn Cannibalism as Drakxxx's piece has to Trick or Treat is skyrocketing toward the fog itself. Basically, if we are to believe that one rejection is warranted for non-shirt similarity, then pieces with EQUAL similarity to ACTUAL SHIRTS should be rejected also. If Drakxxx is gone, so should both of those, for the SAME EXACT REASONS. I hope we've all tattled?

It's more of the same, woot. You do not know how to run your site. You play favorites, and your favorites are the ones who need the least defense. This is one more example of you showing zero respect for the designers who truly came into their own because of your site, in favor of the designers who manipulate your site to make thousands of dollars. Either admit that you don't respect art, only money, or start treating your designers in a way that reflects you knowing or caring about art and design. Because the way you're going about it now makes you look like a pile of s'

That last line was brilliant. It is completely insane that this was rejected today, with NO explanation and that the ridiculous "f-u woot" kitty resub is still there. I think you deserve an apology, Drakxx.
Though I'm glad you are classy and I'm sure your resub will not just be a different colored creeptastic kid.

gumberculees wrote:your links are broken

just rechecked. they are all in tip-top shape

gumberculees wrote:your links are broken

I rather think the site is broken. And btw please create sellout.shirt.woot for mai pumpkin and all the recycled otaku nonsense so the real artists can get a break. Kthxbai.

If shirt.woot doesn't reply with a valid and readable reason why this was rejected yet still let the rehashed seki design continue I'm done with this site.

It's really sad that whoever did this rejection didn't take the time to make sure they got the reason posted. It's not at all fair to Drakxxx. He could have had a resub up by now.

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While I am very disappointed this got rejected, I can understand it. The description of the kid from Trick 'R Treat has him with a lollipop and he looks just like this... However, I think woot needs to be much more thorough. Give him a damn reason for the rejection so he can resub, at the least. Also, If they rejected Seki's first cat in a pumpkin, are they seriously not going to reject the same thing with a color panel thrown over it?

Get your act together woot.

Oldyeller89 wrote:While I am very disappointed this got rejected, I can understand it. The description of the kid from Trick 'R Treat has him with a lollipop and he looks just like this... However, I think woot needs to be much more thorough. Give him a damn reason for the rejection so he can resub, at the least. Also, If they rejected Seki's first cat in a pumpkin, are they seriously not going to reject the same thing with a color panel thrown over it?

Get your act together woot.

That sums up the issue. It is not that this got rejected: perhaps the rejection is viable (I don't watch films, and my preferred horror genre is before I was born, anyway, so I've never seen this movie), but the issue is that the reason is not shown, the rejection was made special for this entry, and MORE REJECTABLE ENTRIES WERE NOT REJECTED AS WELL.

Woot could save themselves a lot of grief if they ran their contest properly.

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Draxxx,

I know you have heard this a zillion times in this thread, but I am super pissed for you. There is no reason why this was rejected and that stupid cat has not been. It's an insult. Good luck on the resub. You know it has my vote.

Although I really like shirt.woot and have purchased many shirts from here, the increase in incidents such as this are really making me unhappy with this site. It is almost getting to the point that if something is not done about rejection standards then I will have a hard time continuing to support shirt.woot. Though I do want to. But, the way shirts are rejected needs a way that will be consistent with rejections. And also responding to users and designers Questions instead of being silent and not responding to concerns as they arise.

I guess it was too close to that Trick r Treat kid. To resub, change the button eye to orange also and lose the lollipop. Then you have a seki resub... oh wait you're too talented and classy to do that.

There is a RESUB UP!!! YAY!!!!

Vote Here for the ReSub

AdderXYU wrote:That said, it ALSO deserves a reason for rejection. That is BASIC RESPECT. If woot could find the time to reject it, they could find the time to log in and post in the thread when they realized they didn't have a full reason. If they were going to make a rare weekend rejection, they should have been prepared to make the reason well-known. It would help Drakxxx fix the piece easier, and also help his fans quell any anger if it was some sort of copyright issue.

Just wanted to say this is why woot utterly disappoints me. That piece of generic, recycled, REJECTED, s*** didn't get rejected but they found the time to reject this one. I actually don't like this shirt (Drakxxx style, while really awesome isn't for me most of the time), but my likes or dislikes are well beside the point of what makes sense. And that god damn repainted kitten in a pumpkin is possibly the worst shirt they twins have submitted since THE EXACT SAME DESIGN was rejected.

kylemittskus wrote:Just wanted to say this is why woot utterly disappoints me. That piece of generic, recycled, REJECTED, s*** didn't get rejected but they found the time to reject this one. I actually don't like this shirt (Drakxxx style, while really awesome isn't for me most of the time), but my likes or dislikes are well beside the point of what makes sense. And that god damn repainted kitten in a pumpkin is possibly the worst shirt they twins have submitted since THE EXACT SAME DESIGN was rejected.

Yep. This is how I feel too.

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There are a host of reasons to be pissed: Adder and kyle pretty much covered them from top to bottom, so I'll make my piece quick.

Jerk move, woot. Jerk move.

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When I logged in tonight and saw that this was rejected and the pumpkin kitteh was still there, I was genuinely upset. I normally try to stay away from the submission drama, as I have no artistic talent myself and who am I to judge, but this just made me angry. Though I doubt that woot would care if people left over this, it does make me want to look at other shirt sites first in this economy.

Even if woot didn't give a reason, at least it's good they rejected this one before the other one many dislike and will most likely be rejected (again). It gives draxx resub a better chance and gaining in the ranks. If those others got rejected at the same time they would have equal time to get votes. Woot does need a better explanation as to why it was rejected, but I think it's actually better that they did it before others. Sounds like strategy to me, not woot doing something wrong.

AdderXYU wrote:
The big question is also "why sunday?" To me, there are only two reasons: either they considered it a huge submission sin, or they wanted to give Drakxxx more time to fix it and have a fighting chance. If it's the latter, it's even more reason they should have taken the time to make sure the full submission reason was written out.

...but if it's the former? Why the hell wasn't MAI PUMPKIN rejected too? It's not like they didn't see it in the fog while rejecting Drakxxx's. What could possibly be wrong with Drakxxx's that is worse than resubbing a rejected piece with a different color scheme as if that makes it different? It makes woot look as though they WANT that to print. It's pathetic and disgusting that they'd target one and not spend a little extra time to knock off what they all know is an illegitimate pile of scaffolding.

I am hoping, hoping, hoping that they are just so mad at Seki for submitting the same piece of garbage that they are going to wait until the very last minute to reject it, so there is no chance of an even more ridiculous resub.
Of course, this is unlikely.

fifteensmiles wrote:I am hoping, hoping, hoping that they are just so mad at Seki for submitting the same piece of garbage that they are going to wait until the very last minute to reject it, so there is no chance of an even more ridiculous resub.
Of course, this is unlikely.

Colour it green and call it a zombie cat?

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Drakxxx, I loved your Scareperson shirt. I hope one of your shirts wins again. Screw that stupid cat shirt.

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watching the films???? I love this!

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I'm just curious...was a valid reason for rejecting this shirt ever given?

trekmiss wrote:I'm just curious...was a valid reason for rejecting this shirt ever given?

Yes, Drakxxx was PMed with the complete reason. It was the one that everyone guessed - Too close to the character in that Trick 'r Treat movie.

nyren wrote:Yes, Drakxxx was PMed with the complete reason. It was the one that everyone guessed - Too close to the character in that Trick 'r Treat movie.

Thanks!