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the only thing I don't like is how ET is falling

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Dang I wish you could actually have the word "Fail" on the shirt. Still really like it even without.

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I would love to wear this!

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can you post a close up of the moon, I want to see how you made the gradients

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I need this shirt!

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Nice moon! I really like how this design flows on the shirt. I like the shirt color too, not just defaulting to black or navy to portray night.

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Our Movie Genre LOVE it!

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Oh they ran into the moon. That makes total sense and is hilarious because it's funny when people run into stuff. The reason this is getting votes is because, like Pavlov's dogs, some people have been trained to laugh whenever the Internets show them a picture with the word Fail on it. Too bad the Fail isn't on the shirt since that's where the votes are coming from, not the dated and weak E.T. joke.

Finley4 wrote:Oh they ran into the moon. That makes total sense and is hilarious because it's funny when people run into stuff. The reason this is getting votes is because, like Pavlov's dogs, some people have been trained to laugh whenever the Internets show them a picture with the word Fail on it. Too bad the Fail isn't on the shirt since that's where the votes are coming from, not the dated and weak E.T. joke.

I am sorry to be the one to let you know that you are incorrect.
Perhaps some of the votes that this is achieving is simply due to a pavlovian response to the word 'fail', but I am quite sure that a much greater percentage is based on the quality of the design.

This is a wonderfully drawn piece of work. It will look excellent on a shirt. It is interesting, and funny.

Yes, you are right. A bicycle piloted by a child and an alien will not hit the moon. The fact that you noticed that element of the design is impossible does speak to the excellent education that you have. The moon is really far away. Good job on picking up on that.

Anyhow, this shirt definitely has my vote. Great job!

bethlehemstarr wrote:I am sorry to be the one to let you know that you are incorrect.
Perhaps some of the votes that this is achieving is simply due to a pavlovian response to the word 'fail', but I am quite sure that a much greater percentage is based on the quality of the design.

This is a wonderfully drawn piece of work. It will look excellent on a shirt. It is interesting, and funny.

Yes, you are right. A bicycle piloted by a child and an alien will not hit the moon. The fact that you noticed that element of the design is impossible does speak to the excellent education that you have. The moon is really far away. Good job on picking up on that.

Anyhow, this shirt definitely has my vote. Great job!

It would have been funny 20 years ago. Heck it was mildly funny in the endless amount of parodies just like this one that have been done already in movies, cartoons, etc. I'm pretty sure woot had a side deal with a shirt where the kid is falling off the bike. Sorry, not very original, not very funny. "Fail" is doing all the work here.

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Clever! and simple.
Very wootish

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I'm just gonna say right now that I didn't even really pay attention to the fail logo at the bottom, I focused on the design of this T-shirt and I think it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's logically impossible to crash into the moon. But when you see ET and that kid after every Universal Studios logo AND the fact that it's one of the highest grossing movies of all time (http://www.cnbc.com/id/31803861?slide=13), I think that this is at least a little more original than flying penguins.

Finley4 wrote:It would have been funny 20 years ago. Heck it was mildly funny in the endless amount of parodies just like this one that have been done already in movies, cartoons, etc. I'm pretty sure woot had a side deal with a shirt where the kid is falling off the bike. Sorry, not very original, not very funny. "Fail" is doing all the work here.

Sourpuss!

This is great. It fun, funny and interesting. It's very well designed and deserves every vote. I guarantee that if fail wasn't in the title, it would still be in the fog, without a doubt in my mind. Besides, if the word fail is your complaint, be mad at the internet, not the designer.

Great work, got my vote.

woot staff. I beg you. Please don't reject this shirt.

awesome!!!

Finley4 wrote:It would have been funny 20 years ago. Heck it was mildly funny in the endless amount of parodies just like this one that have been done already in movies, cartoons, etc. I'm pretty sure woot had a side deal with a shirt where the kid is falling off the bike. Sorry, not very original, not very funny. "Fail" is doing all the work here.

When I opened this link, I nearly spit out my drink when I saw it.
I had to scroll down to notice it actually had a word under it. So no, you are wrong. Sorry to burst your bubble.
A friend showed me the link with a caption reading "Awesome. Vintage work." So I know I am not alone.

In any case, this is a shirt I would buy (WITHOUT Fail on it, I think that is an annoying fad). It's simple, well-executed, and will entertain me after multiple times wearing it. And everyone else will get it.
Congrats.

bethlehemstarr wrote:I am sorry to be the one to let you know that you are incorrect.
Perhaps some of the votes that this is achieving is simply due to a pavlovian response to the word 'fail', but I am quite sure that a much greater percentage is based on the quality of the design.

This is a wonderfully drawn piece of work. It will look excellent on a shirt. It is interesting, and funny.

Yes, you are right. A bicycle piloted by a child and an alien will not hit the moon. The fact that you noticed that element of the design is impossible does speak to the excellent education that you have. The moon is really far away. Good job on picking up on that.

Anyhow, this shirt definitely has my vote. Great job!

Hear hear, quite right!

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For the record, if the word "Fail" were on this shirt, I wouldn't wear it! Someone else said it and I think it too..."Fail" is a stupid internet fad. I certainly wouldn't broadcast it on my shirt!

And it's gmv for sure! I love it just the way it is! :D

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This is a top notch design. The layout is nice and the illustration tells a funny story. I can't wait to buy this one.

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With "A Clue?" and "Some B-B-Q" this will complete my shattered childhood trifecta!

Love it!!!!

Finley4 wrote:It would have been funny 20 years ago. Heck it was mildly funny in the endless amount of parodies just like this one that have been done already in movies, cartoons, etc. I'm pretty sure woot had a side deal with a shirt where the kid is falling off the bike. Sorry, not very original, not very funny. "Fail" is doing all the work here.

think what you want, but you're most likely wrong. I would not vote or buy this shirt with the words. The design speaks for itself. It's a great shirt and it's funny.

Finley4 wrote:Oh they ran into the moon. That makes total sense and is hilarious because it's funny when people run into stuff. The reason this is getting votes is because, like Pavlov's dogs, some people have been trained to laugh whenever the Internets show them a picture with the word Fail on it. Too bad the Fail isn't on the shirt since that's where the votes are coming from, not the dated and weak E.T. joke.

How is up there on your high horse? Can you see my house from there?

Leahbh wrote:think what you want, but you're most likely wrong. I would not vote or buy this shirt with the words. The design speaks for itself. It's a great shirt and it's funny.

I never said anything about it being on the shirt being the reason people are voting for it. "Fail" is stamped on the thumbnail and the comp is made out to be like a tired internet meme (woot voters would never be into those would they?). This design would probably get votes without it (Hey, a reference I understand! Vote!) but the idea that this is somehow a hilarious shirt is aided by the fact that half the people here are going to laugh at anything that has Fail anywhere near the title because they are children of the internet and it's so funny!!!

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this is pretty cancellation i think. im pretty sure ive seen ET crashing like this somewhere before too, but i couldnt find the link.

banzaaiii wrote:this is pretty cancellation i think. im pretty sure ive seen ET crashing like this somewhere before too, but i couldnt find the link.

Maybe you're thinking of this one?
http://www.bustedtees.com/goodbyeelliot

It's what I first thought of, but they should be different enough in concept. I'm not really a fan of pop culture shirts in general, however. Probably because I never get the joke. :/

Finley4 wrote:Oh they ran into the moon. That makes total sense and is hilarious because it's funny when people run into stuff. The reason this is getting votes is because, like Pavlov's dogs, some people have been trained to laugh whenever the Internets show them a picture with the word Fail on it. Too bad the Fail isn't on the shirt since that's where the votes are coming from, not the dated and weak E.T. joke.

Sure is you being a grumpy old man.

Regardless this shirt is awesome.

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The design is well-done, but this is a tired reference.

SpastasticNomadic wrote:Maybe you're thinking of this one?
http://www.bustedtees.com/goodbyeelliot

It's what I first thought of, but they should be different enough in concept. I'm not really a fan of pop culture shirts in general, however. Probably because I never get the joke. :/

not exactly that one, but thats pretty much the same thing. the one i saw was just a white silhouette on black.

also, does woot have some kind of language filter that changes certain words automatically? cause i know i didnt write "cancellation" in my previous post -.-

banzaaiii wrote:not exactly that one, but thats pretty much the same thing. the one i saw was just a white silhouette on black.

also, does woot have some kind of language filter that changes certain words automatically? cause i know i didnt write "cancellation" in my previous post -.-

yes it does. if you see something weird in a post, you can hit the reply button and see what the person really typed.

banzaaiii wrote:
also, does woot have some kind of language filter that changes certain words automatically? cause i know i didnt write "cancellation" in my previous post -.-

Yep, there's an automatic word filter that changes naughty words. For example, here's Carlin's infamous "Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television":

Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966)
Piss
fire Rocket Number 9
Gypsy
goatroper
Cambot
pick-up sticks

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Video game reference? Granted, it's known as one of the absolute worst video games of all time, but the rejectionator seems tired of pop culture references in general these days. :/

scarchin wrote:With "A Clue?" and "Some B-B-Q" this will complete my shattered childhood trifecta!

That's pretty funny...I bought "A Clue" and "Some BBQ" for my son (actually hoping he would get in trouble for wearing "A Clue" in violation of his school's PC dress code) so I too, might have to complete the triptych.

endangeredomega wrote:Video game reference? Granted, it's known as one of the absolute worst video games of all time, but the rejectionator seems tired of pop culture references in general these days. :/

Considering that recent derbies have had non-video game TMNT shirts rejected under the "video game reference" rule, I'd say this qualifies just as much. And not just for the infamous 2600 game, either.

E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial in video games

• E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (Atari, 1982)
  
• E.T. Phone Home! (Atari 1983)
  
• E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (2001)
  
• E.T.: Digital Companion (2001)
  
• E.T.: Escape from Planet Earth
  
• E.T.: Interplanetary Mission (2002)
  
• E.T.: Cosmic Garden (2002)
  
• E.T.: Intergalactic Mission (2002)
  
• E.T. Away From Home (2002)
  
• E.T. Phone Home Adventure (2002)
  
• E.T.: Return to the Green Planet (2002)

I think it's a great design (though admittedly a 100% pander to the recent trend of '80s popular culture shirts performing well), but if Woot is going to be even remotely consistent, they would have to reject it for being subject matter that happened to once or twice appear in a video game.

Luckily for radiomode, Woot is almost never consistent when it comes to their rejections.
.

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haha well it sure is a strict filter then. it was not a swear word AT ALL

i do find it ridiculous that the TMNT shirt linked got rejected for being a video game reference. TMNT is a cartoon, not a game. probably does exist some game of it though, but thats really thin. will be interesting to see what the reactions on this shirt are

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Not exactly alike, but close enough that I believe it shouldn't be allowed in the derby. This one was on the second page of a Google image search for "ET shirt".

Buonvino wrote:Yep, there's an automatic word filter that changes naughty words. For example, here's Carlin's infamous "Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television":

Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966)
Piss
fire Rocket Number 9
Gypsy
goatroper
Cambot
pick-up sticks

Oh I think Mr. Carlin would have been so shocked at what became of his words... Interesting to see that one of them slips through unscathed.

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LOL love it :D

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Awesome.

sonny2009 wrote:Not exactly alike, but close enough that I believe it shouldn't be allowed in the derby. This one was on the second page of a Google image search for "ET shirt".

actually, it's not even close to the same design.


why would anyone want an ET game? weird. and it's a great movie. Steven Spielberg is a GENIUS.

i think the difference between the two, one showing the moon as a distant object and the other as being close[snip]

gmv

bhazard wrote:Nice moon! I really like how this design flows on the shirt. I like the shirt color too, not just defaulting to black or navy to portray night.

Agreed... I like that, making a night shirt on a non-typical night shirt color. Not something I would wear, but it's an attractive shirt.

Leahbh wrote:actually, it's not even close to the same design.


why would anyone want an ET game? weird. and it's a great movie. Steven Spielberg is a GENIUS.

Actually, it's close to the same design. They've rejected for far less similarity. (Think of it this way... if you saw someone wearing one shirt one day and the other the next, wouldn't they strike you as similar? ET, moon, bike, falling... the only element missing is the crash) And that's a bummer, because this shirt is awesome and funny and I'm considering buying it if it prints, and I haven't said that about anything here in recent memory.

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Nice. I'd wear it!

banzaaiii wrote:this is pretty cancellation i think. im pretty sure ive seen ET crashing like this somewhere before too, but i couldnt find the link.

originality is not something RADIOMODE excells at. interestingly enough, its not something SOLDOUTD or TIKITI excell at either. but given "those artists" tendancy to make stock vector collages, im inclined to think at least one of those silhouettes is a stock vector. or maybe that moon is a live trace. or maybe not, who knows. maybe no one ever thought to make stock vectors for these shapes before. but i knew last week when i saw a comment from radiomode that he was back and both his fake accounts were gone for the time being. if anyone is interested, i will post links to threads with some of radiomode most questionable behavior

Finley4 wrote:It would have been funny 20 years ago. Heck it was mildly funny in the endless amount of parodies just like this one that have been done already in movies, cartoons, etc. I'm pretty sure woot had a side deal with a shirt where the kid is falling off the bike. Sorry, not very original, not very funny. "Fail" is doing all the work here.

"Fail" is not doing all the work for this design. I can see where it would definitely help bring in votes, due to the popularity of all the "Fail" pics that are floating out there.
But as someone who watched ET when I was younger, I can also see how the design would appeal to those you loved ET as a child. It's spoofy and cute. I'm not a fan of the whole "Fail" thing, that isn't what makes this shirt design cute for me.
Don't generalize. This design deserves more credit than that. Running into things has been funnier long before the whole "Fail" fad.

BrinK1282 wrote:"Fail" is not doing all the work for this design. I can see where it would definitely help bring in votes, due to the popularity of all the "Fail" pics that are floating out there.
But as someone who watched ET when I was younger, I can also see how the design would appeal to those you loved ET as a child. It's spoofy and cute. I'm not a fan of the whole "Fail" thing, that isn't what makes this shirt design cute for me.
Don't generalize. This design deserves more credit than that. Running into things has been funnier long before the whole "Fail" fad.

This shirt probably draws attention because of the "FAIL" and then when you open it, it looks like one of those demotivational posters. And it would be great for that.

I think it's getting the votes, though, because people love ET. If the ET reference was removed and it was something else crashing into the moon, like a parachuter or an RC airplane, it wouldn't be getting the same number of votes.

So it's probably not just the design, it's the reference as well.

Funny thing is that the ET/bicycle/moon thing was a parody of the witch in the Wizard of Oz. So we've got a parody of a parody of a parody.

I love this!!


Also guys, consider:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos

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Oh hell yes.

So then ET isn't copyrighted? I know they've rejected Disney stuff before...

Anyway, it is a nice image.

Selene1212 wrote:So then ET isn't copyrighted? I know they've rejected Disney stuff before...

Anyway, it is a nice image.

It may count as "parody" as far as copyright laws are concerned.

The more I think about it though, the more I think Spielberg himself may have pulled this joke in an episode of Animaniacs or something. I might just be trying to imagine it into existence though, I haven't watched those cartoons in years...

Leahbh wrote:actually, it's not even close to the same design.


why would anyone want an ET game? weird. and it's a great movie. Steven Spielberg is a GENIUS.

Leahbh how is this not close to the same design? It is the same color pallet and concept (i.e. a twist on the E.T movie poster). Since, both of these designs are based off the movie poster isn't the joke/concept the only portion of the design that is unique? The elements of the movie poster are a given (Elliot, E.T., Bike, Moon) so isn't the joke supposed to be the element of originality. This design is equivalent to the knock off Disney merchandise, and designer purses you see in Tijuana...changed just enough to try to trick the lawyers. This is the Bustedtee shirt with a slight tweak. Radiomode is extremely prolific in the t-shirt design community and I guarantee you that since this design is so strikingly similar to the Bustedtees shirt, he has either seen it or perhaps even designed it under one of his various online handles. My money is on the fact that he aped it. I'd be more inclined to beleive this is a coincidence if there were something dramatically different about the two shirts...

To Radiomode...since it looks like this will print you might want to fix that chunk of missing background swirl/dot pattern above the bicycle. And don't forget to submit your print file on time again.

Selene1212 wrote:So then ET isn't copyrighted? I know they've rejected Disney stuff before...

Anyway, it is a nice image.

ET is most likely copyrighted or otherwise protected, but the question is whether Woot thinks this is enough of a parody to be acceptable. And whether or not it's different from other shirts that other people have linked to.

Woot doesn't do a lot of rejecting over the weekend, and they take longer for fogged entries. So just because an entry is still here, it doesn't mean that it's here to stay.

This could be perfectly fine, or not. It's really hard to guess what Woot will do.

sonny2009 wrote:Not exactly alike, but close enough that I believe it shouldn't be allowed in the derby. This one was on the second page of a Google image search for "ET shirt".

sure the Kid is falling
and the moon is there
and ET is there

in the Derby shirt, it implies that the Kid crashed into what looks to be the moon, or that the moon was really made of Glass or something that is close and can shatter.
the cape, the Kid, and ET are falling in the derby shirt.

in the Shirt you found off google ET Threw the Kid off the Bike and is flying away in the Light of the moon

both have shared elements but Both are Different Entirely.

should we just point out that there are countless "official" ET shirts that were printed....

Zyphron wrote:sure the Kid is falling
and the moon is there
and ET is there

in the Derby shirt, it implies that the Kid crashed into what looks to be the moon, or that the moon was really made of Glass or something that is close and can shatter.
the cape, the Kid, and ET are falling in the derby shirt.

in the Shirt you found off google ET Threw the Kid off the Bike and is flying away in the Light of the moon

both have shared elements but Both are Different Entirely.

should we just point out that there are countless "official" ET shirts that were printed....

The fact that there are countless shirts works against this. For Woot to say "similar shirts exist" they don't need to be identical, they just need to be similar, and the more there are, the less likely Woot is to want to print another shirt with the same theme. Woot has, in the past, rejected shirts with dandelions because they felt there were too many dandelion-themed shirts elsewhere. But none were exactly the same.

I'm not saying that it will or should be rejected. That's up to Woot, and I'm terrible at guessing what they will do. But it's possible that they could decide that ET had been overdone on shirts.

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Oh quit your whining...

It is a funny shirt, and I didnt even see the "FAIL" at first. I did actually laugh out loud once the image displayed.

+1, and I think it is well done. Who cares if it is or isnt a ripoff of something else. That's the whole point of a parody.

Good job.

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You know, I think swirly halftones look neat, it's just kind of lost its novelty and now I don't really get it. I can see using them to simulate glow, but here I'm not certain what they're meant to add to the design. It's just gratuitous swirly stuff.

See:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/wootdesigncontestentries/922349/7df20a44-0f82-4e76-9670-9995b4257835.jpg
AND
http://s3.amazonaws.com/wootdesigncontestentries/922349/The_last_unicorn-gkd8o8-s.jpg
And I know this isn't by him but
http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=32326

It's all in that same vein. I get it, it's aesthetic, but it's become a bit generic so it's lost that appeal for me. Now it seems a bit gimmicky, and it doesn't fit with the silliness of the shirt. Which... well, as pop culture references go, just ok. The art is well done, and there's not doubt there's skill there, I just don't think the composition is particularly creative or cohesive in how it's presented. Obviously plenty of people like it, though.

2k1Toaster wrote:Oh quit your whining...

It is a funny shirt, and I didnt even see the "FAIL" at first. I did actually laugh out loud once the image displayed.

+1, and I think it is well done. Who cares if it is or isnt a ripoff of something else. That's the whole point of a parody.

Good job.

how could you not? the only way to see the image is to click on the thumbnail, and the thumbnail displays the word "fail" really close to the joke. so either you have very large blind spots on your eyes, or you are making that up just for the sake of arguing for a design that has no merit other than "it made you laugh". the fact is radiomode felt the need to put the word "fail" on the thumbnail, and someone people think it was a transparant and shallow way to get quick votes. we will never know what difference it made because its already there. but im willing to bet, you slap the word fail on a thumbnail of any of these other designs and its going to get more views, if not more votes.

I love this shirt. I hate ET and i am glad he is falling to his death. I got nuthin' against the director i think it was well put together but the plot leaps into the vacuum.

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can you make this shirt say fail? it would be much better, and incindental text is now allowed.

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love it! I hope to buy this shirt!!!

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like the shirt but deserves to be rejected... One of bustedtees features even...

gumberculees wrote:how could you not? the only way to see the image is to click on the thumbnail, and the thumbnail displays the word "fail" really close to the joke. so either you have very large blind spots on your eyes, or you are making that up just for the sake of arguing for a design that has no merit other than "it made you laugh". the fact is radiomode felt the need to put the word "fail" on the thumbnail, and someone people think it was a transparant and shallow way to get quick votes. we will never know what difference it made because its already there. but im willing to bet, you slap the word fail on a thumbnail of any of these other designs and its going to get more views, if not more votes.

Disagree. Still funny without it, still would have looked at it without "fail", even if a sort of similar shirt has been done before.

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hilarious!

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i wish people would just stop whining when people don't like their designs or trying find loop holes to try and get it rejected...

it's not a video game reference because it appeared in a video game post movie, that's just ignorant...

it is 100% different than the kid falling off the bike in comparison to crashing completely...

and the word FAIL is cancellation and i wouldn't buy it if it was on there...

i voted for this and I will buy it when it goes on sale

I

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just got a big fat paycheck for all my overtime work, so I am BUYIN' THIS, BABY!

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

rdnielso wrote:i wish people would just stop whining when people don't like their designs or trying find loop holes to try and get it rejected...

it's not a video game reference because it appeared in a video game post movie, that's just ignorant...

it is 100% different than the kid falling off the bike in comparison to crashing completely...

and the word FAIL is cancellation and i wouldn't buy it if it was on there...

i voted for this and I will buy it when it goes on sale

I don't know, I still have a little bit of an issue with the obvious reference to a copyrighted property, but that's just me. It's a beautiful design and very funny though.

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This is a TERRIBLE rejection. Why is that stupid jetpack shirt still not rejected. It's way more similar to already printed shirts than this one is.

And that example that someone else posted as similar is NOT. In that one, ET stole the bike and pushed elliot off, in this one, they both crash into the moon, not similar at all. And as for your similar colors argument, it's a freakin' moon and sky, what other colors were they supposed to use?

You all just don't like this shirt and wanted it rejected. Well, you got your wish, now go tattle on the jetpack shirt.

EclecticMuse wrote:I don't know, I still have a little bit of an issue with the obvious reference to a copyrighted property, but that's just me. It's a beautiful design and very funny though.

leaps into the vacuum that this one is rejected. far out the best thing in this derby. not at all like the busted one and originality? good luck finding any.

oh well, another derby i save money.

How ironic, the shirt called "fail" has just failed. :P

Leahbh wrote:You all just don't like this shirt and wanted it rejected. Well, you got your wish, now go tattle on the jetpack shirt.

Throw your toys out of the pram, why don't you?

I don't think people were making a fuss over whether they liked it or not--I didn't see any complaints on the caliber of the design. It was just rule technicalities people took issue with.

mrnnn wrote:leaps into the vacuum that this one is rejected. far out the best thing in this derby. not at all like the busted one and originality? good luck finding any.

Aesthetically I do think it's a shame it got rejected. IMHO it looked great and made me laugh; I would have considered buying it. I can only speak for myself, but my point of contention was the obvious reference to ET, not any similarities to existing shirts. I just feel uneasy about the use of copyrighted properties, and would rather play it safe than sorry.

Leahbh wrote:This is a TERRIBLE rejection. Why is that stupid jetpack shirt still not rejected. It's way more similar to already printed shirts than this one is.
And that example that someone else posted as similar is NOT. In that one, ET stole the bike and pushed elliot off, in this one, they both crash into the moon, not similar at all. And as for your similar colors argument, it's a freakin' moon and sky, what other colors were they supposed to use?
You all just don't like this shirt and wanted it rejected. Well, you got your wish, now go tattle on the jetpack shirt.

Leahbh - I "FAIL" to see why you are such an avid defender of Radiomode.

If two t-shirt designs look similar at a passing glance...then they are way too similar. Changing the position/activity of the characters is not enough to create a significant distinction.

The original design is for sale on a well known T-SHIRT site. Do you really think people on a website for t-shirt design aren't going to be aware of current designs in THE SAME MARKET? Budi Kwan participates in a TON of t-shirts competitions and sells to multiple sites. Its incredibly hard to beleive that Budi accidentally created something that looks just like a featured design on another site. A more likely scenario is that he saw the design and figured he could change it just enough to pass for different...I guarantee you the original designer would be pissed.

As for other colors an artist might make the moon? My answer is, any color.

P.S. Don't bother responding with your typical defense, "Its just a t-shirt." We've been over that.

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had a feeling this would be rejected. was hard to believe this had not been done before.

spanishmel wrote:Leahbh - I "FAIL" to see why you are such an avid defender of Radiomode.

If two t-shirt designs look similar at a passing glance...then they are way too similar. Changing the position/activity of the characters is not enough to create a significant distinction.

The original design is for sale on a well known T-SHIRT site. Do you really think people on a website for t-shirt design aren't going to be aware of current designs in THE SAME MARKET? Budi Kwan participates in a TON of t-shirts competitions and sells to multiple sites. Its incredibly hard to beleive that Budi accidentally created something that looks just like a featured design on another site. A more likely scenario is that he saw the design and figured he could change it just enough to pass for different...I guarantee you the original designer would be pissed.

As for other colors an artist might make the moon? My answer is, any color.

P.S. Don't bother responding with your typical defense, "Its just a t-shirt." We've been over that.

i'm not defending the artist, I'm defending the design. I mostly don't even look at the artists, I vote for shirts I'd buy. But woot needs to use the same rules for everyone. If they reject this, they need to reject the jetpack shirt which has been done on threadless and countless other sites. it's ridiculous. It's stupid and woot s u c k s! I'm getting very close to being done with this site and their "rules". I'm not giving them anymore of my money.

Leahbh wrote:i'm not defending the artist, I'm defending the design. I mostly don't even look at the artists, I vote for shirts I'd buy. But woot needs to use the same rules for everyone. If they reject this, they need to reject the jetpack shirt which has been done on threadless and countless other sites. it's ridiculous. It's stupid and woot s u c k s! I'm getting very close to being done with this site and their "rules". I'm not giving them anymore of my money.

anything in the fog that gets rejected , woot has a meetng about it,so wait till tomorrow cause that serve beer in their meetings, and they last all day. so only one per day. wait.

ChefRAZ wrote:anything in the fog that gets rejected , woot has a meetng about it,so wait till tomorrow cause that serve beer in their meetings, and they last all day. so only one per day. wait.

Beer! That explains everything. I think I'll go have a beer now. It also fixes everything.

Leahbh wrote:i'm not defending the artist, I'm defending the design. I mostly don't even look at the artists, I vote for shirts I'd buy. But woot needs to use the same rules for everyone. If they reject this, they need to reject the jetpack shirt which has been done on threadless and countless other sites. it's ridiculous. It's stupid and woot s u c k s! I'm getting very close to being done with this site and their "rules". I'm not giving them anymore of my money.

you may be pissed but fact is, this shirt was similar in alot of ways to the other.
Sure the concept was different, but it Had rejection all over it from the start.

which leaps into the vacuum because I loved it.

as for the Jetpack. give it time. it "should" get the boot too I don't see how the rejectionator would miss that one.

MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!

http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=36752

Zyphron wrote:you may be pissed but fact is, this shirt was similar in alot of ways to the other.
Sure the concept was different, but it Had rejection all over it from the start.

which leaps into the vacuum because I loved it.

as for the Jetpack. give it time. it "should" get the boot too I don't see how the rejectionator would miss that one.

It had rejection written all over it from the start? Then why didn't shirt.woot reject it before it became so popular? It's ridiculous allowing everyone to get hyped about it for days THEN rejecting it.

Also, I wouldn't exactly say the shirts are extremely similar to warrant a rejection. ESPECIALLY since that jetpack shirt is still there.

Re: Fail

Resubmit and add some chibi animals, THEN I guarantee woot won't reject it

Re: Fail

oh man, it got rejected?? WHY?????

jimiyo wrote:MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!
MOST AWESOME DESIGN EVER!

http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=36752

I guess we know what to expect on Teefury in 60 days.....

HalfWheat wrote:Beer! That explains everything. I think I'll go have a beer now. It also fixes everything.

As I was reading the response about woots rejection meetings having beer in them, I was sitting in a terrible meeting (obviously not paying steller attention ) thinking, 'if only this meeting had beer'.
Beer would fix and explain everything. It also would make bad meetings wonderful.

Leahbh wrote:I'm not giving them anymore of my money.

hahaha.. because they rejected a shirt with extreme similarity to another shirt? are you sure you dont have ties to the designer?

nyke15 wrote:hahaha.. because they rejected a shirt with extreme similarity to another shirt? are you sure you dont have ties to the designer?

No, because they rejected a shirt with a somewhat similar design when they choose not not reject other shirts that are EVEN more similar to existing designs, like sekiyoku's pumpkin cat or that quick brown fox and lazy dog shirt

NOOOOOOOOOOO!

wugsby wrote:No, because they rejected a shirt with a somewhat similar design when they choose not not reject other shirts that are EVEN more similar to existing designs, like sekiyoku's pumpkin cat or that quick brown fox and lazy dog shirt

welcome to the world of woot . where time stands still, back is front and up is down. right is wrong and short is long.

Poraro wrote:It had rejection written all over it from the start? Then why didn't shirt.woot reject it before it became so popular? It's ridiculous allowing everyone to get hyped about it for days THEN rejecting it.

So if it's popular, it shouldn't be rejected?

I guess I see why you wanted a shirt called "FAIL".

ChefRAZ wrote:welcome to the world of woot . where time stands still, back is front and up is down. right is wrong and short is long.

...where unpredictability is the only predictable thing.

HalfWheat wrote:...where unpredictability is the only predictable thing.

It's pretty predictable that woot will almost always disenfranchise a perfectly justified entry and leave a should-have-been-rejected-a-year-ago one up and in the fog all week.

Not that FAIL was justified. I'm kinda in love with the rejectorator when they go heavy handed on the referential rejections. *bats eyes*

Thats BS i really wanted this shirt

AdderXYU wrote: *bats eyes*

Hey! You want your eyes to get stuck like that?

Re: Fail

Somehow it didnt surprise me. The only time I didnt get rejected were the time I didnt have any chance of winning.

Let's see if I can get this someway printed.

radiomode wrote:Somehow it didnt surprise me. The only time I didnt get rejected were the time I didnt have any chance of winning.

Let's see if I can get this someway printed.

Let me know if you do, I'd buy it. Obviously.

radiomode wrote:Somehow it didnt surprise me. The only time I didnt get rejected were the time I didnt have any chance of winning.

Let's see if I can get this someway printed.

This rejected but the no the jetback? Geez, How drunk is the rejectionator during the weekdays?

Let me know, too! I was excited for this.

AdderXYU wrote:So if it's popular, it shouldn't be rejected?

I guess I see why you wanted a shirt called "FAIL".

Are you stupid? I said it should've been rejected ages ago before they let it become popular to save people the annoyance. I didn't say it shouldn't be rejected at all, shirt.woot were just terrible about it.

So yeah, well done for not being able to read then doing a dumb insult?

Poraro wrote:Are you stupid? I said it should've been rejected ages ago before they let it become popular to save people the annoyance. I didn't say it shouldn't be rejected at all, shirt.woot were just terrible about it.

So yeah, well done for not being able to read then doing a dumb insult?

To me, it doesn't matter when it's rejected. So long as "when" is "before the derby is over".

You could save yourself the annoyance by telling yourself "every shirt with a licensed character somewhere on it runs the risk of rejection". People would still have been annoyed if it was rejected Saturday.

The end result is still the same whether it's rejected now or earlier. It's just that rejecting it now means he can't slap tiger stripes on it and get it near printing.

AdderXYU wrote:To me, it doesn't matter when it's rejected. So long as "when" is "before the derby is over".

You could save yourself the annoyance by telling yourself "every shirt with a licensed character somewhere on it runs the risk of rejection". People would still have been annoyed if it was rejected Saturday.

The end result is still the same whether it's rejected now or earlier. It's just that rejecting it now means he can't slap tiger stripes on it and get it near printing.

Well, good point. I haven't been around shirt.woot for that long to exactly know how they go about with their rejections but you've made it sound plausible.

AdderXYU wrote:*bats eyes*

More like *bats bats bats bats bats eyes* mirite?

AdderXYU wrote:
You could save yourself the annoyance by telling yourself "every shirt with a licensed character somewhere on it runs the risk of rejection".

I would have been fine if the rejection was for the ET character, that one actually makes sense, but similar shirts exist is a stupid argument. Copyright? fine.

Leahbh wrote:I would have been fine if the rejection was for the ET character, that one actually makes sense, but similar shirts exist is a stupid argument. Copyright? fine.

WOOT started this shirt thing with the intent on offering shirt that you couldn't get anywhere else. so to reject for similar shirts exist,is the very thing they are looking for. they just hire people that don't know what that is.

ChefRAZ wrote:WOOT started this shirt thing with the intent on offering shirt that you couldn't get anywhere else. so to reject for similar shirts exist,is the very thing they are looking for. they just hire people that don't know what that is.

it's not similar to the other shirt!

radiomode wrote:Somehow it didnt surprise me. The only time I didnt get rejected were the time I didnt have any chance of winning.

Let's see if I can get this someway printed.

Let's not.

spanishmel wrote:Let's not.

and say we did!

HalfWheat wrote:Beer! That explains everything. I think I'll go have a beer now. It also fixes everything.

Ah, beer. The cause of and the solution to all of life's problems.

Leahbh wrote:I would have been fine if the rejection was for the ET character, that one actually makes sense, but similar shirts exist is a stupid argument. Copyright? fine.

similar shirts were proven to exist, though, so...

Look, if you're panties are in a bunch because this is less like said shirt than the rocketpack is to other rocketpacks, I'm with you. Woot is proving why people are so malcontent with them on that move. But it is still a viable rejection made no less viable for what has gone unrejected.

AdderXYU wrote:similar shirts were proven to exist, though, so...

Look, if you're panties are in a bunch because this is less like said shirt than the rocketpack is to other rocketpacks, I'm with you. Woot is proving why people are so malcontent with them on that move. But it is still a viable rejection made no less viable for what has gone unrejected.

I think this shirt is just as bad as the rocketpack (which has awful physics) in terms of similarity. This one contains silhouettes, the same objects, same color scheme, osv. as the other shirts. At a glance, the referenced shirts could easily look like this one.

The rocketpack is just a bland overused idea that was never appealing in the first place.

I still love this design. It's funny enough that people can see it and get a kick out of it over and over... I don't find too many of those shirts here anymore so I hope this pops up elsewhere.

PopeYmir wrote:I think this shirt is just as bad as the rocketpack (which has awful physics) in terms of similarity. This one contains silhouettes, the same objects, same color scheme, osv. as the other shirts. At a glance, the referenced shirts could easily look like this one.

Of course it uses the same elements it's referencing a famous movie scene!
And this shirt is far more clever than the one that already exists.

This leaps into the vacuum I really wanted to buy this shirt too. Screw all ya'll ivory tower types, this is an awesome shirt.

cornell5000 wrote:can you make this shirt say fail? it would be much better, and incindental text is now allowed.

If the shirt said fail, that wouldn't be incidental text. Incidental is something like the word "Stop" on a stop sign, "#2" on a pencil which appears because it is inherent to the object being illustrated. You can still drow a stop sign or a pencil without any letters and people would still know what they are. The word fail would not be incidental unless it was somehow incorporated into the pattern of the shattering moon or subtly written in the crater pattern, but those ideas would definitelty be stretching the idea of incidental.

smileyfaceman wrote:Of course it uses the same elements it's referencing a famous movie scene!
And this shirt is far more clever than the one that already exists.

This leaps into the vacuum I really wanted to buy this shirt too. Screw all ya'll ivory tower types, this is an awesome shirt.

I can't believe they rejected this shirt. It was in the fog for a while to. This stinks I wanted this shirt.

Seems more and more cute and cuddly shirts and no funny ones as of late.

Yup, Woot!, you f'd up on this one. I'm a black box level Wooter (100 plus purchases annually) and I won't be making any new purchases with you guys because of this. I stayed up late waiting for ET and, you know what, I WANT ET DAMMIT! Other shirt co's online have done ET and other 'copyrighted' parodies with ZERO repercussions. The only disaster here is the stupidity of rejecting it so late in the game and for all the wrong reasons.

jeffdano wrote:Yup, Woot!, you f'd up on this one. I'm a black box level Wooter (100 plus purchases annually) and I won't be making any new purchases with you guys because of this. I stayed up late waiting for ET and, you know what, I WANT ET DAMMIT! Other shirt co's online have done ET and other 'copyrighted' parodies with ZERO repercussions. The only disaster here is the stupidity of rejecting it so late in the game and for all the wrong reasons.

Except ET is not only a copyrighted character, but the shirt concept has technically been done already.

Thank you, though, for underscoring the differences here. You want your shirt to win regardless of what reasons it may have to be rejected, because you think you deserve it. While many of us want good shirts to win regardless of our own desire, because we have a sense of duty to people who take the time to make the most creative and quality shirts possible.