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Hopefully the story here is pretty self-explanatory, even if it takes a second or two. Big thanks to all the folks in the forum who helped me work through the details.

rglee129 wrote:Saved...

Soooo cute Rglee, and the colors work really well. And I think you *may* avoid the penguin haters too;)

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Yeah I think this came out wonderfully. :D
Love the yeti's fur.

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I love it! its so amazing!

Don't wanna be a naysayer - but as said before - it remindes me of yeti sports - and that is a game on the i-net. So it's no video game, but something real close to that!?!

Never the less - I really like the shirt! *g*

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I love it! If I new a yeti, Id give him a fish so I could fly too!

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I will be buying this. Only you can turn out a penguin shirt I would love to wear.

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This is definitely a knock off of Yeti Sports Penguin Toss. This would make it a Video Game reference.

No it isn't a knockoff. In Yeti Sports Penguin toss the penguins jump off a cliff and the yeti hits them with a bat. This shirt is completely different.

Great shirt!

ringod30 wrote:This is definitely a knock off of Yeti Sports Penguin Toss. This would make it a Video Game reference.

Knock-off? Ouch! Believe me if you want, but I hadn't seen or even heard of the video game until after I came up with this design. Granted, I HAD heard of the infamous flying penguin, but that seems to be kosher this time around.

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I hate to admit this because of the cute penguins, but I really like the design. The randomness of a yeti throwing penguins just makes me smile. GMV!

abottleofcoke wrote:No it isn't a knockoff. In Yeti Sports Penguin toss the penguins jump off a cliff and the yeti hits them with a bat. This shirt is completely different.

Great shirt!

Be it a Penguin falling, diving, hit by a bat or shot out of a cannon, its still a Penguin being tossed by a Yeti. The method in which the tossing is being done doesnt really matter. The overall theme is the same.

ringod30 wrote:Be it a Penguin falling, diving, hit by a bat or shot out of a cannon, its still a Penguin being tossed by a Yeti. The method in which the tossing is being done doesn't really matter. The overall theme is the same.

A method of tossing would be underhand vs overhand. Shooting something out of a cannon or hitting it with a bat or even tossing it are all very different.

Tossing implies throwing, hitting implies sudden force by an outside object, and shooting implies either momentum cause by explosives or something pulled taut such as a rubberband or bowstring.

I'm sure you think it's different if you toss a baseball at someone, hit it with a bat, or shoot it out of an automatic pitching machine.

:End Rant:

bhazard wrote:I hate to admit this because of the cute penguins, but I really like the design. The randomness of a yeti throwing penguins just makes me smile. GMV!

Not a gamer, don't care for Penguins but the idea of tossing those wankers makes me smile also. The colors are pleasing, the Yeti is fearsome and it GMV.
I would buy this shirt.

raebee wrote:A method of tossing would be underhand vs overhand. Shooting something out of a cannon or hitting it with a bat or even tossing it are all very different.

Tossing implies throwing, hitting implies sudden force by an outside object, and shooting implies either momentum cause by explosives or something pulled taut such as a rubberband or bowstring.

I'm sure you think it's different if you toss a baseball at someone, hit it with a bat, or shoot it out of an automatic pitching machine.

:End Rant:

The penguin is still a Projectile cause by the Yeti. A projectile can come from any force which involves throwing, shooting, hitting, tossing, sliding, falling, etc etc etc. It doesnt really matter how it got there.

The game contains a Yeti (Check), a penguin (Check), a goal of getting the penguin airborn (Check). You nailed all of the components the game consists of, making this a game reference.

ringod30 wrote:The penguin is still a Projectile cause by the Yeti. A projectile can come from any force which involves throwing, shooting, hitting, tossing, sliding, falling, etc etc etc. It doesnt really matter how it got there.

The game contains a Yeti (Check), a penguin (Check), a goal of getting the penguin airborn (Check). You nailed all of the components the game consists of, making this a game reference.

There have been games about paper airplanes and shuttle flight, not to mention Joust or Solar Jetman.

Please, get off the horse.

abottleofcoke wrote:No it isn't a knockoff. In Yeti Sports Penguin toss the penguins jump off a cliff and the yeti hits them with a bat. This shirt is completely different.

Great shirt!

There just aren't ANY associations of Yeti and Penguins (or seals) that exist outside of the game(s). In the games there are a variety of ways that the penguins are sent; like the shirt, the yeti sends the penguin, or seal, or whatever it might be in the flash version you play, yeti sends it flying farther than any penguin, or seal, or whatever, has been sent in the best fling OF ALL TIME! OF ALL TIME!

ringod30 wrote:The penguin is still a Projectile cause by the Yeti. A projectile can come from any force which involves throwing, shooting, hitting, tossing, sliding, falling, etc etc etc. It doesnt really matter how it got there.

The game contains a Yeti (Check), a penguin (Check), a goal of getting the penguin airborn (Check). You nailed all of the components the game consists of, making this a game reference.

Who cares, you guys? Do you really have nothing better to do than argue on here? It's a great shirt and not your decision whether it gets rejected. If it happens, that'll suck...if it doesn't, I'll be buying one.

kmtowers wrote:Who cares, you guys? Do you really have nothing better to do than argue on here? It's a great shirt and not your decision whether it gets rejected. If it happens, that'll suck...if it doesn't, I'll be buying one.

It matters for fairness sake. Nobody likes my designs this week, that's fine (though they are pretty good IMO). I'll move to the next thing. But the thing is, video game references are banned. There's a good reason for that- such cultural references have a huge advantage in a contest like this. They are familiar, people spend a lot of time nowadays playing video games, happy time, so anything with a Link™ to such a thing is likely to have a built-in voter base. If they weren't banned, there would be a lot more entries using a variety of video games, and it might be a fair playing field. Since virtually everyone didn't submit entries that are related to such games, those who did, wittingly or not, have a huge advantage. This is where the unfairness comes in.

Josephus wrote:It matters for fairness sake. Nobody likes my designs this week, that's fine (though they are pretty good IMO). I'll move to the next thing. But the thing is, video game references are banned. There's a good reason for that- such cultural references have a huge advantage in a contest like this. They are familiar, people spend a lot of time nowadays playing video games, happy time, so anything with a Link™ to such a thing is likely to have a built-in voter base. If they weren't banned, there would be a lot more entries using a variety of video games, and it might be a fair playing field. Since virtually everyone didn't submit entries that are related to such games, those who did, wittingly or not, have a huge advantage. This is where the unfairness comes in.

In addition, its taking up a spot in the fog of some other persons work who has followed the rules of the Derby. Its a shame that so called artists have to fall back on pop culture references in order to drum up votes for a piece of work. Then people who have better designs that took the time to come up with an original idea get tossed to the wayside.

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This is cute done right rg...just in case of rejection, please have a substitute with a replacement for the yeti waiting!

ringod30 wrote:In addition, its taking up a spot in the fog of some other persons work who has followed the rules of the Derby. Its a shame that so called artists have to fall back on pop culture references in order to drum up votes for a piece of work. Then people who have better designs that took the time to come up with an original idea get tossed to the wayside.

I respectfully disagree that this is a video game reference. I feel like there are enough differences to say it isn't based on the game that and based on the artist's comment in the pre-derby forum on how they hadn't heard of the game before I'd let it slide. That being said I am not the Rejectionator so I guess tattle and we'll see what the final verdict is.

ringod30 wrote:The penguin is still a Projectile cause by the Yeti. A projectile can come from any force which involves throwing, shooting, hitting, tossing, sliding, falling, etc etc etc. It doesnt really matter how it got there.

The game contains a Yeti (Check), a penguin (Check), a goal of getting the penguin airborn (Check). You nailed all of the components the game consists of, making this a game reference.

I agree that the penguin is a projectile, but that's not what you said. If we went by your rules lots of things would have to be rejected based on video game references. Such as people shooting guns (if guns were allowed) or you could have a nurse treating people, someone helping a baby, people making fast food, or many other things that have been made into flash games, I'd link to them but flash game sites are blocked at work. I agree that very blantent video game and character use is getting annoying, but I just don't think this qualifies is all. But again that's just my opinion.

BTW to the artist. I really do like this it's cute which I don't normally like and has good depth. Your Yeti is spot on in my opinion. GMV

raebee wrote:I respectfully disagree that this is a video game reference. I feel like there are enough differences to say it isn't based on the game that and based on the artist's comment in the pre-derby forum on how they hadn't heard of the game before I'd let it slide. That being said I am not the Rejectionator so I guess tattle and we'll see what the final verdict is.

I agree with this. Also to add, there are tons of flash games out there with some creature hitting/throwing other creatures. I've actually never seen the Yeti one until today. This small flash game cannot be what shirt.woot wanted to affect with the video game reference. Hopefully, if the mods want to reject, it will be soon so Robbie can resub with another creature in place of the Yeti. I know Polar Bear was suggested in the pre-derby thread.

fifey157 wrote:I agree with this. Also to add, there are tons of flash games out there with some creature hitting/throwing other creatures. I've actually never seen the Yeti one until today. This small flash game cannot be what shirt.woot wanted to affect with the video game reference. Hopefully, if the mods want to reject, it will be soon so Robbie can resub with another creature in place of the Yeti. I know Polar Bear was suggested in the pre-derby thread.

Josephus wrote:It matters for fairness sake. Nobody likes my designs this week, that's fine (though they are pretty good IMO). I'll move to the next thing. But the thing is, video game references are banned. There's a good reason for that- such cultural references have a huge advantage in a contest like this. They are familiar, people spend a lot of time nowadays playing video games, happy time, so anything with a Link™ to such a thing is likely to have a built-in voter base. If they weren't banned, there would be a lot more entries using a variety of video games, and it might be a fair playing field. Since virtually everyone didn't submit entries that are related to such games, those who did, wittingly or not, have a huge advantage. This is where the unfairness comes in.

I see your point- shirts should win on their own merit, not because they're alluding to a video game. But are people voting for this design because it's a video game reference or because of the imagery itself? It certainly originated without any kind of video game reference, so I guess it's hard for me to imagine it being perceived as one.

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When I saw this originally, I did NOT think of the stupid flash game. If this were a polar bear, I'd be groaning and it probably wouldn't gmv, but with this guy it does. I like it and I'd wear it happily

marycatherine84 wrote:When I saw this originally, I did NOT think of the stupid flash game. If this were a polar bear, I'd be groaning and it probably wouldn't gmv, but with this guy it does. I like it and I'd wear it happily

The Yeti or Abominable Snowman is possibly a creature and an ape-like cryptid said to inhabit the Himalayan region of Nepal and Tibet. The names Yeti and Meh-Teh are commonly used by the people indigenous to the region,[1] and are part of their history and mythology. Stories of the Yeti first emerged as a facet of Western popular culture in the 19th century.

This makes absolutely no sense that a Yeti would be tossing penguins, as penguins are not part of the Himalayan region of Nepal or Tibet. A polar bear would fit here a lot better than a Yeti, and it also wouldn't reference a Video Game.

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That Yeti's got one hell of an arm! I hope he's throwing those Penguins into water

ringod30 wrote:The Yeti or Abominable Snowman is possibly a creature and an ape-like cryptid said to inhabit the Himalayan region of Nepal and Tibet. The names Yeti and Meh-Teh are commonly used by the people indigenous to the region,[1] and are part of their history and mythology. Stories of the Yeti first emerged as a facet of Western popular culture in the 19th century.

This makes absolutely no sense that a Yeti would be tossing penguins, as penguins are not part of the Himalayan region of Nepal or Tibet. A polar bear would fit here a lot better than a Yeti, and it also wouldn't reference a Video Game.

Maybe it's an albino bigfoot ;o) or perhaps I don't care because as far as this shirt being factual I'm going with the fact that penguins wearing clothes are right out.

Paradox55 wrote:This is cute done right rg...just in case of rejection, please have a substitute with a replacement for the yeti waiting!

I was thinking the same thing. I love the design and I would hate to see it rejected, but I have to admit the first thing that came to mind was Yeti Sports. It would be a shame for such a great design go to waste, so a backup may be prudent.

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This would probably be rejected if the reference were to a more popular video game. Not sure if woot is going to reject this but this is a clear reference to the video game, whether or not it was intentional.

rglee129 wrote:Hopefully the story here is pretty self-explanatory, even if it takes a second or two. Big thanks to all the folks in the forum who helped me work through the details.

Rglee, as I lok some more, from the thumbnail I noticed it looks like some lines/ fills are with a color pencil or china crayon or something like that... what program do you use to get that look? Or do you do your work partly with the real tools and scan it?

The style reaallly looks awesome. It's too bad one has to be so close up to really see it. Really great.

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want it!

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GMV, as I've a younger sister who is a rabid fan of anything featuring penguins. She loves the rest of the penguin woot shirts I've purchased for her (The Aviator, Imposter, and When Penguins Bribe Polar Bears), and I foresee myself picking up this design, Draxxx's, or both, by the end of the week as gifts for her.

ringod30 wrote:
This makes absolutely no sense that a Yeti would be tossing penguins, as penguins are not part of the Himalayan region of Nepal or Tibet. A polar bear would fit here a lot better than a Yeti, and it also wouldn't reference a Video Game.

Polar bears and penguins do not naturally meet in the wild, so saying a polar bear "would fit a lot better" than a Yeti is silly. They're both absurd, just like penguins wearing clothes are absurd. Maybe you would "prefer" this with a polar bear, but your reasoning isn't very defensible

Yeti Sports has a game called Seal Bounce where the goal is to throw the Penguin as high as you can, as a Yeti. This is unfortunetly too similar.

I love the design though.

xazothia wrote:Polar bears and penguins do not naturally meet in the wild, so saying a polar bear "would fit a lot better" than a Yeti is silly. They're both absurd, just like penguins wearing clothes are absurd. Maybe you would "prefer" this with a polar bear, but your reasoning isn't very defensible

+1

xazothia wrote:Polar bears and penguins do not naturally meet in the wild, so saying a polar bear "would fit a lot better" than a Yeti is silly. They're both absurd, just like penguins wearing clothes are absurd. Maybe you would "prefer" this with a polar bear, but your reasoning isn't very defensible

I never said I would "prefer" this nor said that bears and penguins meet. But it makes more sense that the two animals are of the same style of habitat as opposed to a mythical creature that lives in the mountains.

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personally, i don't think little flash games on the internet equate to video games. It's a great design, it's funny and I'm sure most people have never even seen/heard of the flash game.

It's an awesome design, you got my vote and I'd definitely buy it.

ringod30 wrote:I never said I would "prefer" this nor said that bears and penguins meet. But it makes more sense that the two animals are of the same style of habitat as opposed to a mythical creature that lives in the mountains.

This reply further proves your inability to reason logically, so I'll just be done with you here.

ringod30 wrote:Be it a Penguin falling, diving, hit by a bat or shot out of a cannon, its still a Penguin being tossed by a Yeti. The method in which the tossing is being done doesnt really matter. The overall theme is the same.

Not remotely.

That's like saying Hamlet and Macbeth are the same play, because they both involve a crapload of death, murders of kings, and shakespearean english.

srm8ib4 wrote:This would probably be rejected if the reference were to a more popular video game. Not sure if woot is going to reject this but this is a clear reference to the video game, whether or not it was intentional.

and a design with a necklace on it is a clear reference to bejeweled.

Seriously, you guys need to get out more. The differences between this design and the game are staggering, despite the similarities.

AdderXYU wrote:Not remotely.

That's like saying Hamlet and Macbeth are the same play, because they both involve a crapload of death, murders of kings, and shakespearean english.

I was waiting for you to chime in on this since you usually jump on people on people who you feel break the rules, and you're usually more strict than the rejectionator. I figure if you don't think it's a reference it's probably ok.

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This design made me laugh

In regard to the controversy, I never heard of yeti sports so I checked it out.

The way I see it is that the Flash game has the penguins as the unwilling victims of the yeti. In Robbie's design, the penguins are initiating this event, even paying for it, and are dressed up and excitedly await for their first experience of flight. The intention is clearly not referential.

I hope the design survives so I can buy it and wear it!

Good luck, Robbie!

ringod30 wrote: A polar bear would fit here a lot better than a Yeti, and it also wouldn't reference a Video Game.

Polar Bear - Far Northern Hemisphere
Pneguin - Southern Hemisphere.

Yeti = Imaginary

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rglee129 wrote:I see your point- shirts should win on their own merit, not because they're alluding to a video game. But are people voting for this design because it's a video game reference or because of the imagery itself? It certainly originated without any kind of video game reference, so I guess it's hard for me to imagine it being perceived as one.

I, for one, voted for it strictly for the imagery. I've never seen the video game in question; I have never even heard of it until now.

What got my vote was the third-in-line penguin, the one with the colander on his head, peering impatiently past the penguin ahead of him to see how much longer until it's his turn. Love it -- that really makes the deign for me.

As for the yeti, to me he is just a large hurling thing, the specifics of which are inconsequential. I'd have voted for it whether the flinging was done by the yeti, a polar bear, a catapult, or the robot from your "My Favorite Program" shirt (which I love).

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The only thing I wish is that the thrown penguin was a bit closer so that it was larger and more detailed so it would stand out more. The shirt would make a lot more immediate sense, I think.

But the point may be to make people figure out what is going on so who knows.

raebee wrote:I respectfully disagree that this is a video game reference. I feel like there are enough differences to say it isn't based on the game that and based on the artist's comment in the pre-derby forum on how they hadn't heard of the game before I'd let it slide. That being said I am not the Rejectionator so I guess tattle and we'll see what the final verdict is.

I don't think there's a video game reference either. First you said you weren't even aware of the game. I believe you because SECOND: it's an obscure little Internet game that made the rounds a few years ago but I haven't seen it pop up in quite a while. And I explore the Internet a lot on weird sites that publish those types of games.

Then again, I have no influence on anyone about anything so only the Rejectionator knows for sure.

I like it. I hope it passes muster.

raebee wrote:I was waiting for you to chime in on this since you usually jump on people on people who you feel break the rules, and you're usually more strict than the rejectionator. I figure if you don't think it's a reference it's probably ok.

please recall, however, that I am NOT the rejectionator. I think it's fine because I reason things through, and because my life isn't nothing but videogames. Woot's rejections are often mysterious and inscrutable examples of "huh?"

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o_O That's really sad. Especially that the penguins haven't realized that they're going to land really hard. GMV

AdderXYU wrote:please recall, however, that I am NOT the rejectionator. I think it's fine because I reason things through, and because my life isn't nothing but videogames. Woot's rejections are often mysterious and inscrutable examples of "huh?"

As shown here

Seriously, I have no idea in what world this is similar to that game, and yet a cat painted orange isn't identical to the same cat painted black.

AdderXYU wrote:please recall, however, that I am NOT the rejectionator. I think it's fine because I reason things through, and because my life isn't nothing but videogames. Woot's rejections are often mysterious and inscrutable examples of "huh?"

Clearly, it seems. Good to see that woot is keeping that track record going of stringently applying all rules only to quality designers who would only have unkowingly or inadvertently broken them and not to repeat offenders who continually and deliberately circumvent the rules.

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Bad call, woot.

AdderXYU wrote:

Seriously, I have no idea in what world this is similar to that game...

Surprisingly, I agree with Adder on this one.

mrwednesday wrote:Clearly, it seems. Good to see that woot is keeping that track record going of stringently applying all rules only to quality designers who would only have unkowingly or inadvertently broken them and not to repeat offenders who continually and deliberately circumvent the rules.

This.

SpastasticNomadic wrote:This.

BUT SRSLY ITS MAI FLASH GAIM

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at least he said he'd make a polar bear one for backup. that'll be just as good.

billratio wrote:at least he said he'd make a polar bear one for backup. that'll be just as good.

I did, and it's up for voting. I kind of like it better, actually. We'll see what the voters say...

rglee129 wrote:I did, and it's up for voting. I kind of like it better, actually. We'll see what the voters say...

Sorry for the rejection Robbie. Video games all but rule my existence, and I've never heard of a game were you launch penguins as a yeti.

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What a snarky rejection to a design by one of woot's most talented and rule-abiding artists.

AdderXYU wrote:and a design with a necklace on it is a clear reference to bejeweled.

Seriously, you guys need to get out more. The differences between this design and the game are staggering, despite the similarities.

How does getting out more have anything to do with my comment? Perhaps you are projecting.

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*sniff*

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i obviously need to play more video games

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I'd buy it. Great design.
Too bad people have to nit pick....I mean, when it comes down to it...there's video games about every subject. That doesn't make every subject a video game reference though.

srm8ib4 wrote:How does getting out more have anything to do with my comment? Perhaps you are projecting.

I'd never argue I could use more time out. But I'd also never immediately see two denizens of snowy climes put together in a situation which plays to their natural or perceived realities, and immediately associate it with a videogame. If it was a plumber growing mushrooms, maybe, but those two things make no sense together outside of the Mario world.

Basically, if you immediately take logical connectors and view them solely through the lens of pop culture and videogames, you are doing yourself an immense disservice intellectually, and it would behoove you to have more experiences that do not take place behind a computer screen. It'd behoove all of us, to be sure, but especially people who can't grasp the difference here.

AdderXYU wrote:I'd never argue I could use more time out. But I'd also never immediately see two denizens of snowy climes put together in a situation which plays to their natural or perceived realities, and immediately associate it with a videogame. If it was a plumber growing mushrooms, maybe, but those two things make no sense together outside of the Mario world.

Basically, if you immediately take logical connectors and view them solely through the lens of pop culture and videogames, you are doing yourself an immense disservice intellectually, and it would behoove you to have more experiences that do not take place behind a computer screen. It'd behoove all of us, to be sure, but especially people who can't grasp the difference here.

Honestly, Adder, he made a mistake and put up a design that is a pure video game reference, whether you want to admit it to yourself or not. You can do all the handwaving you want, but there is no association between penguins and yetis other than the video games.

I searched 'yeti' 'penguin' on google with moderate filtering on. In the first 20 pages there were about 6 links that weren't to the yeti sports games, and of those, 4 were to a yeti vs penguin sledding game. One of the others appeared to be online names, and the other was a drink name. I was allowed to see 64 pages, and I randomly skipped forward through some of those- at page 63, about half the references were to games, but at page 60 all the references were to the games. Mostly, the rest of the references do not appear to link the two at all, they just happen to be on the same page. Oh! I saw a link to the derby on page 46.

The point is that the two terms are not associated in any way outside of the games, anywhere. It doesn't really matter much whether he came up with the two completely on his own, or if he doesn't realize that he did see it somewhere before, everyone who views it will think of this game if they recognize it at all.

Fairness is fairness, this couldn't help but be rejected. You really ought to realize that even when we really like a designer and their work, we can't play along, or (insert scary music) we become just like woot. To be listened to, we can't be inconsistent.

I remember a derby where I submitted a design of a buffalo with wings on it, which I thought was a very good looking design. Almost immediately someone pointed out that there is a logo of a Wings place very similar to the design I'd drawn. It really didn't matter that I came up with it completely on my own, anyone who saw it and knew about the Buffalo Wings restaurant would immediately associate it with that place. I withdrew it right away, because I was in the wrong. It was inadvertent on my part, but there was no way I could honestly argue that it could be OK. I would have preferred that to happen in this case.

AdderXYU wrote:please recall, however, that I am NOT the rejectionator. I think it's fine because I reason things through, and because my life isn't nothing but videogames. Woot's rejections are often mysterious and inscrutable examples of "huh?"

Yeah I definitely know you're not the rejectionator. Unfortunately though they usually let things slide that you wouldn't I was just thinking that possibly since you would've allowed it then it was probably in. I was wrong but I voted for the backup!

For the convenience of the Woot administrators, I have identified several other video game references:
* Penguins with jetpacks is clearly a reference to the Club Penguin game by Disney.
* ET has been in several self-titled video games, such as "ET" on both Atari and Playstation. ET crashing is clearly a reference to the Atari version of ET being so bad it crashed the entire video game industry for a while. (Look it up.)
* A jetpack is clearly a reference to the game "Jetpack" released in 1993 by Software Creations, or to the game "Jetpac" released in 1983 by Ultimate Play The Game.
* Heli-packs have been featured in the Ratchet and Clank video game series. Clearly, that can't be allowed.
* An origami crane is obviously a reference to the game "Minagara Oresu DS Origami" by TDK on Nintendo DS.
* Flying whale and birdS? Clearly a reference to "Die Fail Whale", at diefailwhale.com, which features both birds and whales.
* Rodent strapped on a firecracker? Hasn't anyone played "Rocket Weasel Game", playable at flasharcade.com? It features a very similar rodent strapped to a very similar firecracker rocket.
* Birds flying? A lone tree on the left? Clearly a reference to "Duck Hunt", isn't it?
* Blue birds singing on a electric wire? Obviously referencing the classic "Singing Bird Game" on funflashgames.com.
* A floating land mass? Does this look remarkably like the floating continent from Final Fantasy VI (FF3 in the states) to anyone else?
* A boy floating with red balloons? Hasn't anyone played the NES classic, "Balloon Fight", which has boys floating holding red balloons?

Therefore, in the interest of fairness, Woot must reject nearly ALL of the top contendors for this derby. They are all clearly video game references.

Your welcome.

psyci wrote:For the convenience of the Woot administrators, I have identified several other video game references:
* Penguins with jetpacks is clearly a reference to the Club Penguin game by Disney.
* ET has been in several self-titled video games, such as "ET" on both Atari and Playstation. ET crashing is clearly a reference to the Atari version of ET being so bad it crashed the entire video game industry for a while. (Look it up.)
* A jetpack is clearly a reference to the game "Jetpack" released in 1993 by Software Creations, or to the game "Jetpac" released in 1983 by Ultimate Play The Game.
* Heli-packs have been featured in the Ratchet and Clank video game series. Clearly, that can't be allowed.
* An origami crane is obviously a reference to the game "Minagara Oresu DS Origami" by TDK on Nintendo DS.
* Flying whale and birdS? Clearly a reference to "Die Fail Whale", at diefailwhale.com, which features both birds and whales.
* Rodent strapped on a firecracker? Hasn't anyone played "Rocket Weasel Game", playable at flasharcade.com? It features a very similar rodent strapped to a very similar firecracker rocket.
* Birds flying? A lone tree on the left? Clearly a reference to "Duck Hunt", isn't it?
* Blue birds singing on a electric wire? Obviously referencing the classic "Singing Bird Game" on funflashgames.com.
* A floating land mass? Does this look remarkably like the floating continent from Final Fantasy VI (FF3 in the states) to anyone else?
* A boy floating with red balloons? Hasn't anyone played the NES classic, "Balloon Fight", which has boys floating holding red balloons?

Therefore, in the interest of fairness, Woot must reject nearly ALL of the top contendors for this derby. They are all clearly video game references.

Your welcome.

Well done!
I know it's already rejected but for the future can we not just appreciate the art submitted and let the rejections be done by the rejectionator?

incumalf wrote:Well done!
I know it's already rejected but for the future can we not just appreciate the art submitted and let the rejections be done by the rejectionator?

nope. woot has posted several comments in the past that they rely on us to let them know when things don't comply. Sometimes they reject things based on their own research, but often they make rejection comments that show their rejections were based on comments in the derby threads. or, more often, on tattles, I suspect.

psyci wrote:For the convenience of the Woot administrators, I have identified several other video game references:
* Penguins with jetpacks is clearly a reference to the Club Penguin game by Disney.
* ET has been in several self-titled video games, such as "ET" on both Atari and Playstation. ET crashing is clearly a reference to the Atari version of ET being so bad it crashed the entire video game industry for a while. (Look it up.)
* A jetpack is clearly a reference to the game "Jetpack" released in 1993 by Software Creations, or to the game "Jetpac" released in 1983 by Ultimate Play The Game.
* Heli-packs have been featured in the Ratchet and Clank video game series. Clearly, that can't be allowed.
* An origami crane is obviously a reference to the game "Minagara Oresu DS Origami" by TDK on Nintendo DS.
* Flying whale and birdS? Clearly a reference to "Die Fail Whale", at diefailwhale.com, which features both birds and whales.
* Rodent strapped on a firecracker? Hasn't anyone played "Rocket Weasel Game", playable at flasharcade.com? It features a very similar rodent strapped to a very similar firecracker rocket.
* Birds flying? A lone tree on the left? Clearly a reference to "Duck Hunt", isn't it?
* Blue birds singing on a electric wire? Obviously referencing the classic "Singing Bird Game" on funflashgames.com.
* A floating land mass? Does this look remarkably like the floating continent from Final Fantasy VI (FF3 in the states) to anyone else?
* A boy floating with red balloons? Hasn't anyone played the NES classic, "Balloon Fight", which has boys floating holding red balloons?

Therefore, in the interest of fairness, Woot must reject nearly ALL of the top contendors for this derby. They are all clearly video game references.

Your welcome.

Win.

I really do hope all that hard work pays off for you somehow in the end, its an amazing design. Thank goodness Woot isnt the only place that sells shirts :D

I'd buy it.

Josephus wrote:It matters for fairness sake. Nobody likes my designs this week, that's fine (though they are pretty good IMO). I'll move to the next thing. But the thing is, video game references are banned. There's a good reason for that- such cultural references have a huge advantage in a contest like this. They are familiar, people spend a lot of time nowadays playing video games, happy time, so anything with a Link™ to such a thing is likely to have a built-in voter base. If they weren't banned, there would be a lot more entries using a variety of video games, and it might be a fair playing field. Since virtually everyone didn't submit entries that are related to such games, those who did, wittingly or not, have a huge advantage. This is where the unfairness comes in.

i think it's hilarious that people have to whine about other people's designs because they can't design something good enough so that people actually want to buy it...

the reason pop-cultural references do so well in a derby is because people like the pop cultural reference and want to buy it; it has nothing to do with fairness, if you can't design something better, then too bad for you, people are going to go with what they like and that's why, in the end, it ends up being sold by woot, because woot knows it will sell well because people already like it

and i don't think this is really a video game reference, similar, but just because it has elements of a similar game doesn't make it a reference, cars->racing game, football->sports game, etc etc.

i like this shirt and i like the resub too, and i'm voting for it and will buy it when it wins