Derby #139: Madness

Vampire Photo Booth

Off topic, gradients

Rejected because: Off topic, gradients

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Spiritgreen


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A moment of madness... captured for posterity!

This shirt is a reminder of the often forgotten weakeness of the classic Hollywood vampire; vanity. If the sun has gone down and you're all out of wooden stakes, garlic and holy water, Dracula's irresistable compulsion for photo booths might just save your life.



Here's a close-up detail of the photo strip. You will need to add your own sound effects:



(Note to Woot: The bat flames are a halftone effect.)


See a larger image of the full design here.



Zank you for vizitiiinnnggg!

bellarific


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So expressive! Can't get enough of that black humor. I loves it!!! :D

sacrerouge


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Thank you for making me giggle. GMV

keelhaulkate


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LOVE IT!!!!!!!

mjc613


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I really like this - it will be great for Halloween too.

kcman011


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LMFAO!!!

jzlosman


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very simpson-esque, I like it. I think I would've voted if it wasn't for the bat thing behind it all.

eye4spot


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AWESOME....

walmazan


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So hilarious!, you make my day!

imsochady


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Hahahah, Omelets made great, this is so awesome!!! +1 from me!

Senorvandal


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Nice. I actually laughed pretty loud at work after seeing a close up of the second and third pictures.

HerbalE


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Technically wouldn't the vampire not be visible in a picture. I don't know I'm not up to par on vampire lore.

darel


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Awesome idea, I found it really funny. I don't really like the bats though I understand the need to fill up more of the tee. In any case, GMV.

fishbiscuit5


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I totally and completely want this shirt. The artwork is very well done!

Drakxxx


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Great concept, and I love the cartoons. Your definitely one to watch sir!


odysseyroc


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Great job on the storytelling! Very funny.





paigeg


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This cracks me up! I didn't know how you were going to execute it after seeing your idea in the pre-derby thread. Way to produce! GMV!

emptyplatitudes


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seems more like absent-mindedness than madness.

Spiritgreen


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Thanks so much for your comments everyone. >:-D

midnightcat007


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I like this, but I don't really see "madness" in it...

hustler03


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Freakin Hilarious. I love it!

Neener Neener

Archon25


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From dictionary.com: Madness: 1 : the quality or state of being mad: as a: rage b: insanity c: extreme folly

It's certainly extreme folly, and I think I see some madness in Dracula's eyes as the photo is being taken. Plus, he must have had a few screws loose to go into the photo booth in the first place. :P

Spiritgreen


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Archon25 wrote:From dictionary.com: Madness: 1 : the quality or state of being mad: as a: rage b: insanity c: extreme folly

It's certainly extreme folly, and I think I see some madness in Dracula's eyes as the photo is being taken. Plus, he must have had a few screws loose to go into the photo booth in the first place. :P


Precisely. Thanks Archon'!

tjost


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This is great but the one thing that's getting me is the bat fade in orange. I think it distracts from the awesome

lovestolaugh


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I might actually get this even though its a red shirt. Job well done!

Stellardig


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This is Awesome!!!!! LOL Great Job! DGMV

WriteWay


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It's Otto Chriek!

standard888


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Yeah, it's cool, but what does this have to do with madness?

DarkestKnight27


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LOVE IT! Would definitely buy it if it came into production!

spentfromnz


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SF Ironsides from the waffleiron

Spiritgreen


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spentfromnz wrote:SF Ironsides from the waffleiron


The font whisperer! :O

SubBass49


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Pretty funny, though I thought it was sunlight that killed vampires, not artificial light. Still an amusing design though. Props.

marzipanapple


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See? What did I tell ya? In the fog again already.;)

Archon25


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Awww. Rejected. Hopefully this will make it into another derby, because it's definitely top 3 material.

marzipanapple


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Aww, I'm sorry Spirit. You'll make it again in the future. Don't let this get you down. Just take note and move forward.

kimvy


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waffles? they're fine? Rejected? Off-topic? Thanks for saving me some money, Woot.

eye4spot


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Rejected because: Off topic, gradients??????

Sorry Spiritgreen,
Perhaps they did not bother to read your first post - you did clearly say: (Note to Woot: The bat flames are a halftone effect.)

Also, I am not sure why this is "off topic" and something like "The Clockmaker" is not....

Too bad, this shirt IS a great design, that IS on topic, and per your statement and the provided closeup, uses halftones, NOT gradients.

I respectfully hope woot explains the true reason for this rejection.

repoman86


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Dang. It's a shame to see this at the bottom of the list with the other rejects. You have a great style, and though I probably wouldn't have purchased the shirt, I appreciate the work put in to it as well as the obscure vintage vampire reference. I disagree with Woot 110% about why it was rejected, but I think we can all agree we want to keep seeing more from you!

Spiritgreen


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Oh fudge, this doesn't seem fair.

I made this especially for the derby thinking hard about a moment of madness. And I clearly wrote and showed the halftone dots, both here and in the submission message to Woot. All that effort... ;_;

Thanks to everyone who voted and sent me nice comments.

karencov


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Ugh! I am completely disappointed. This was my favorite shirt in a long time, and I certainly would have purchased one (or more). Fantastic job!

Drakxxx


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Sorry for the rejection sir. It seems they are quite random sometimes.


tgentry


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Drakxxx wrote:Sorry for the rejection sir. It seems they are quite random sometimes.


I understand the off-topic part of the rejection, but the gradients part is a bit strange. The comp seems to show that they are definitely halftones and are no smaller than what a lot of people are using and printing these days, possibly even larger. A nice illustration nonetheless. Best of luck in the future.

Spiritgreen


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Thank you karencov, Draxxx and tgentry!

I'm disappointed of course but the worst thing is I don't know what lesson to take from this, it seems odd that I've been singled out for rejection.


Even the bats on the right edge have a chunky halftone:




Ah well, back to dancing for nickels in the subway.

Ezshrkman


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Man....I am so sorry! I loved it!
Keep your chin up and dont let it get 2 ya.

cvankleek


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Major bummer. Loved this shirt.

bellarific


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What!? No!

tjost


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Spiritgreen wrote:Thank you karencov, Draxxx and tgentry!

I'm disappointed of course but the worst thing is I don't know what lesson to take from this, it seems odd that I've been singled out for rejection.


Even the bats on the right edge have a chunky halftone:




Ah well, back to dancing for nickels in the subway.


Bummer dude. You did a great job on this, I can see the off topic and you basically got the ban hammer because your in the fog and probably doing well (so keep this guy around for a halloween derby) the gradients I can also see. Yes while there have been many gradients being tossed around if I had to make a call on this it'd be because the halftone pattern you use doesn't alternate in consistency from left to right all along the length from top to bottom (does that make since).

In other pieces with fine halftones they group up in blobs or follow contours etc. and don't cover such large areas. Because of that you have a lot more potential with printing problems. You stand a good chance of having a lot of the dots get blown out or having major moire (dot pattern interferance) issues which are more noticable because of the large dot pattern area that doesn't have much variation (it's a smooth transition over a large area).

My advice to you and EVERYONE is keep halftones limited if you use them or make them chunky(30 lpi or less) also don't fill large areas with the same halftone or smooth transition without adding some texture or alternation or halftone values. If this doesn't make sense PM me and I'll try to explain better. Keep up the great work though!

The Tim


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tgentry wrote:I understand the off-topic part of the rejection, but the gradients part is a bit strange. The comp seems to show that they are definitely halftones and are no smaller than what a lot of people are using and printing these days, possibly even larger. A nice illustration nonetheless. Best of luck in the future.


I hate to talk down on such a well-done design, but I've got to agree with tgentry here. The comment from Woot about gradients is bogus for sure, but my first thought when I saw this design was "great design, funny, but I don't see the theme."

Hopefully you'll either get an HM or be able to re-sub it to a future derby where it is more on-theme.

mjc613


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Woot can't do all half tones nor all gradients. It says clearly on the entry form that both are discouraged - for now.

I'm upset that when they rejected this, they left up "ailuraphobia", the woman about to hammer a cat. Disgusting. I would rather have a funny off-topic shirt than an upsetting X-rated-for-violence on-topic shirt.

FearieBlue88


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why was this one rejected

Heather

Stellardig


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Holly Blood Splatter BatMan!!!!!!!! That is just WRONG!!!!!!!! This should not have been rejected.

fishbiscuit5


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No, no, no!! This is too awesome to be rejected. I'm so sorry, Spiritgreen. Looking forward to seeing more amazing work from you in the future.

Spiritgreen


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Aww @ Stellardig and fishbiscuit5. ^__^

And thanks to everyone for their comments and advice.

tjost, I totally understand what you're saying. Although Woot wouldn't necessarily have had an issue with the halftone if they'd understood that's what it was, and recent winners like Sublime and Stone Temple Pilots have used it all over their backgrounds, I realize that it's something I'm going to have to be much more careful or sparing with.

I felt sure I was on theme using madness as folly rather than insanity or weirdness, in future I'll just have to try to be on topic in a more straightforward way.

From the grave... I will return!

cenobite000


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A vampire in a photobooth seems like madness to me!

do vampires not show up in pictures like they don't see their reflection in the mirror?

lol

The Tim


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Spiritgreen wrote:I felt sure I was on theme using madness as folly rather than insanity or weirdness, in future I'll just have to try to be on topic in a more straightforward way.

From the grave... I will return!

The problem with choosing the "extreme folly" definition of "madness" is that the rest of the derby description is pretty clear that they're looking for depictions of insanity specifically, not just any meaning of madness.

As another example, I'm pretty sure you also would have been rejected had you submitted a shirt depicting someone that was really angry, even though "rage" is one of the definitions of madness.

I think the lesson here is that it's important to pay heed to the full derby description, not just the title.

Insanity gets sort of romanticized as the ultimate creative force in movies and television today, but there's more than a slight difference between the savant with poor manners and the guy talking to his deity of choice via his Alphabits. So for this derby show us madness: the voices in someone's head, the swirl of hallucinated hecklers following your every move, or...something else. Yeah, you could draw a lonely-looking guy in a straight-jacket, but we'd rather see you conceptualize actual madness. That's high-brow, right? Finally, no one will have any reason to complain in the comments! Of course, even the criminally insane have their limits...

Looking forward to your triumphant return!
.

cenobite000


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The Tim wrote:the derby description is pretty clear that they're looking for depictions of insanity specifically, not just any meaning of madness.


I don't know about that.. there is a shirt in this derby that shows a bracket and a basketball. Granted it probably won't win, but it isn't rejected! (yet?)

Either way, sit on that design until the dracula in a photobooth derby


eye4spot


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"Not on topic" is such a random (subjective) call that does not appear to be evenly applied to all submissions, and you did not have gradients.... unfortunately, they can not set the president of changing their minds...there would be no getting your lost votes back.

ON THE UP SIDE....everyone is talking about YOU and your wonderful design, and we will be looking forward to seeing more Spiritgreen submissions!

totito


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Fit the design in another derby, please, I love it and I want the shirt!!!

Elicea


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This shirt is effing amazing. I am in tears laughing. I wish I could buy it right now!!

modestio


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Ohhh no, the only cool entry in the fog and it's getting rejected...
What a pity!

sometimesdee


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Spiritgreen wrote:A moment of madness... captured for posterity!

This shirt is a reminder of the often forgotten weakeness of the classic Hollywood vampire; vanity. If the sun has gone down and you're all out of wooden stakes, garlic and holy water, Dracula's irresistable compulsion for photo booths might just save your life.



Here's a close-up detail of the photo strip. You will need to add your own sound effects:



(Note to Woot: The bat flames are a halftone effect.)


See a larger image of the full design here.



Zank you for vizitiiinnnggg!


Shame it got rejected. I think that suicide counts as madness. Hell, they've got an acorn about to crack itself! Such a shame, as this told a great story!

osteoace


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Spiritgreen wrote:Oh fudge, this doesn't seem fair.

I made this especially for the derby thinking hard about a moment of madness. And I clearly wrote and showed the halftone dots, both here and in the submission message to Woot. All that effort... ;_;

Thanks to everyone who voted and sent me nice comments.


I was extremely disappointed to check today's winners and find that this shirt had been rejected... I thought it was surely a first place shirt (not to mention totally on-topic). Even if it were a third place shirt, I'd have bought it. Hopefully you'll find a place to re-submit the design so no one loses... you get your winner, we get to buy it, and woot gets to sell it.

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