Derby #157: Reinterpreting Famous Art Titles

Starry Night

Off topic, reinterpreting artwork, not title

Rejected because: Off topic, reinterpreting artwork, not title

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whovian42


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very nice - keeping the swirly impresionist style with a modern them ... well don

bubsters


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Ooh, this is really nice! Definitely like the modern take on it but still keeping Van Gogh's style.

Petergistics


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Somebody a dota fan?

capedcrusader514


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I'd love to see a close up.

Siax


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capedcrusader514 wrote:I'd love to see a close up.


i agree

walmazan


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Love it!

linablade


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capedcrusader514 wrote:I'd love to see a close up.


Sorry about that! This is my first Derby entry, and I totally forgot to add a nice detail shot. Is there a way to edit my entry to include that, or would I have to remove this and start over?

Here's the whole image (scaled down of course!) so you can see the detail. And any pointers for next time from you pros would be very welcome! Thanks guys!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs048.snc4/34766_1413142733194_1371321996_31152718_5489308_n.jpg

Spiritgreen


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Thanks for posting the bigger image, I can appreciate the full awesomeness of it now. GMV! :^)

Yes, you can edit your first post. You just need to find where it is in the derby comments thread and use the edit button.

cmdixon2


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Spiritgreen wrote:Thanks for posting the bigger image, I can appreciate the full awesomeness of it now. GMV! :^)

Yes, you can edit your first post. You just need to find where it is in the derby comments thread and use the edit button.


Just use the "Permalink" link at the top right of your first post. That will take you to the right spot in the derby thread. Then just click the "Edit" link.

Great first entry. Starry Night has been used a lot but not like this. Kudos!

odysseyroc


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Awesome job. Love the technique!





sogj


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Wow! This is amazing. First entry?! I look forward to seeing more from you!

I refuse to answer on the grounds that I don't know the answer.

anjulka


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Does the binary actually encode a word?
If not, I think that's the only thing I really don't like about this design.

ViciousSandpiper


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anjulka wrote:Does the binary actually encode a word?
If not, I think that's the only thing I really don't like about this design.


I typed it into a binary translator and it showed an error message.

Siax


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I envy you sooooo much first design and its in the fog!

AdderXYU


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How in the name of holy hell is this in the fog so fast?

JesseBYAH


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anjulka wrote:Does the binary actually encode a word?
If not, I think that's the only thing I really don't like about this design.


I agree. I looooove this, it's so cute, but I don't like the moon. I would still buy it though =)

starrynite211


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GMV!! for possible obvious reasons....

bassanimation


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This is wonderful!

LadyofRohan2995


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sogj wrote:Wow! This is amazing. First entry?! I look forward to seeing more from you!


Me too! Please stick around!

effiew


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I don't understand why this was rejected.

bellarific


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effiew wrote:I don't understand why this was rejected.


For the same reason most rejections are happening this week. The point of the derby was to re-interpret the title of a famous piece of art. Instead of using a different style/scene/setting to depict a "starry night", this artist recreated Van Gogh's Starry night, but with a few twists.

That being said, I think this is a great first effort.

misrymonky


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bellarific wrote:For the same reason most rejections are happening this week. The point of the derby was to re-interpret the title of a famous piece of art. Instead of using a different style/scene/setting to depict a "starry night", this artist recreated Van Gogh's Starry night, but with a few twists.

That being said, I think this is a great first effort.


I agree, an awesome first effort! Good luck next time!

Darquis


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bellarific wrote:For the same reason most rejections are happening this week. The point of the derby was to re-interpret the title of a famous piece of art. Instead of using a different style/scene/setting to depict a "starry night", this artist recreated Van Gogh's Starry night, but with a few twists.

That being said, I think this is a great first effort.


I don't think that reinterpretation and recreation (but with twists, as you put it) are mutually exclusive.

kylemittskus


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Darquis wrote:I don't think that reinterpretation and recreation (but with twists, as you put it) are mutually exclusive.


You're missing Bella's point and the reason for the rejection.

It's the title of the work that is supposed to be reinterpreted, not the piece itself. In this case, the designer was supposed to present his/her reinterpretation of "starry night," not of the original piece of art, "Starry Night."

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

AdderXYU


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kylemittskus wrote:You're missing Bella's point and the reason for the rejection.

It's the title of the work that is supposed to be reinterpreted, not the piece itself. In this case, the designer was supposed to present his/her reinterpretation of "starry night," not of the original piece of art, "Starry Night."


This.

In this case, we have the image, starry night, reinterpreted with a robot and some satellites. there is no starry night involved. It's Night With Glowing Satellites.

Ergo, the title is only reinterpreted insofar as the title is the title of the reinterpreted art.

RagnarokAngel


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AdderXYU wrote:This.

In this case, we have the image, starry night, reinterpreted with a robot and some satellites. there is no starry night involved. It's Night With Glowing Satellites.

Ergo, the title is only reinterpreted insofar as the title is the title of the reinterpreted art.


I'm pretty sure it would have flown just fine if it wasn't in the style of "Starry Night", ergo it shouldn't matter.

jbb04


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Still, GREAT first entry, and PLEASE don't give up on Shirt.Woot! I hope to see you in more derbies.

Siax


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jbb04 wrote:Still, GREAT first entry, and PLEASE don't give up on Shirt.Woot! I hope to see you in more derbies.


I totally agree you have a gift and it shouldn't go to waste. I look forward to purchasing your designs

kylemittskus


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RagnarokAngel wrote:I'm pretty sure it would have flown just fine if it wasn't in the style of "Starry Night", ergo it shouldn't matter.


You're basing a logical argument on an unprovable assumption with no logical reason for making said assumption?

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

amoliski


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This is the first time I REALLY disagreed with a rejection. I guess I don't understand the point of this derby. From the way I am looking at it, this fits closely enough to the topic and was so well done that they could have let it slide. I would have gotten one.

Titles of artwork really don't mean much, would a proper entry dealing with starry night be... a knight with a shield with stars on it or something?

I guess what I am saying is that I am very upset that I will not be wearing this shirt any time soon.

Darquis


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kylemittskus wrote:You're missing Bella's point and the reason for the rejection.

It's the title of the work that is supposed to be reinterpreted, not the piece itself. In this case, the designer was supposed to present his/her reinterpretation of "starry night," not of the original piece of art, "Starry Night."


It's been reinterpreted as a robots starry night, in a similar style to the original. I can see others not agreeing with me that it's reinterpreted. Just because you reinterpret the title doesn't mean ideas of the original can't remain.

Duddles86


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amoliski wrote:Titles of artwork really don't mean much, would a proper entry dealing with starry night be... a knight with a shield with stars on it or something?


Yes. That is exactly the point of the derby... The title of many famous art titles could actually be used on other pictures that use the title in a literal or word play use that isn't the way it was used on the original.

nepbug


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Boo on the rejection. If you wanted re-interpretations of the Artwork Titles that should've been more clear. This is an actual re-interpretation of the theme of painting itself. I prefer this much more than a clever pun based off the name of a famous title.

Back in Van Gogh's days all the twinkling lights were stars, in this robot's day, the twinkles are satellites, it's definitely a more modern interpretation of the theme.

RagnarokAngel


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kylemittskus wrote:You're basing a logical argument on an unprovable assumption with no logical reason for making said assumption?


The logical argument is that it's a futuristic, or even post-human, "starry" night — with something that aren't really stars acting as stars. I'm pretty sure that falls within the limits of "reinterpretation" of the title. This really feels like a woot staffer got slaphappy with the rejection hammer.


EDIT:

I thought I'd just point out the relevant sentences so you can see where the rest of us are coming from
"This week we're asking you to create a design reinterpreting the title of a famous work of art. Don't worry about recreating van Gogh's The Starry Night; just riff on the idea of a starry night."
It's says Don't worry about, not that it isn't acceptable to do so, and that it should riff on a starry night, which satellites as stars does well imho.

EDIT 2:

And a second thought that drives this ideology home is that The Great Wave doesn't get rejected, yet is in the same style as the original painting? C'mon woot.

dragonvt


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This rejection is a total load! This shirt absolutely fits the theme, and is beautifully done. Since it was in the fog, clearly more people agree with me than with you. I have never disagreed with a rejection before, but you guys were smoking something on this one. Put it back up!

Darquis


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RagnarokAngel wrote:The logical argument is that it's a futuristic, or even post-human, "starry" night — with something that aren't really stars acting as stars. I'm pretty sure that falls within the limits of "reinterpretation" of the title. This really feels like a woot staffer got slaphappy with the rejection hammer.


EDIT:

I thought I'd just point out the relevant sentences so you can see where the rest of us are coming from
"This week we're asking you to create a design reinterpreting the title of a famous work of art. Don't worry about recreating van Gogh's The Starry Night; just riff on the idea of a starry night."
It's says Don't worry about, not that it isn't acceptable to do so, and that it should riff on a starry night, which satellites as stars does well imho.

EDIT 2:

And a second thought that drives this ideology home is that The Great Wave doesn't get rejected, yet is in the same style as the original painting? C'mon woot.


I agree with everything you said but edit 2 - Great Wave stands on it's own because it's a giant hand, waving - something unique from the original piece of art, and a complete reinterpretation regardless of style.

But like I said, I agree in the other aspect - a modernized starry night "riffs on the idea of a starry night" - if it wasn't in the same style as the original it wouldn't even be up for rejection I'm betting.

linablade


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I'm really touched by the amount of people that have shown support here, even though the design was rejected. Thank you all so much for making my first attempt at the Derby so much more memorable! Rest assured that I have not been deterred by this and I will be entering again in the future. I'll just have to pay a bit more attention to the theme's wording next time. Thanks again everyone, and hope to see you all in the next Derby!

sciencemodel


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This is an absolutely beautiful design and I'm so sad that it was rejected and I won't be able to purchase it as a t-shirt.

Honestly I'm not really sure why it was rejected because of a lot of the reasons stated previously. I see this as a similar reinterpretation as the great wave design that's still in the fog right now. The only thing different is that that one is punny and yours is not. Still done as a re-interpretation of the title while keeping the feel of the original, just as yours is.

Oh well. Please keep designing & submitting! This design is awesome!

Kelsium


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Keep up the good work and hope to see you in to see you in the fog again next week.

good luck

julejules


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Starry Night is one of my favorite paintings and I love this shirt. I would've bought it too but I understand (and agree) why it was rejected. I hope a future derby will be 'reinterpreting famous art'

lifeanddeath7


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amoliski wrote:This is the first time I REALLY disagreed with a rejection. I guess I don't understand the point of this derby. From the way I am looking at it, this fits closely enough to the topic and was so well done that they could have let it slide. I would have gotten one.

Titles of artwork really don't mean much, would a proper entry dealing with starry night be... a knight with a shield with stars on it or something?

I guess what I am saying is that I am very upset that I will not be wearing this shirt any time soon.


I wholeheartedly agree. I was looking forward to wearing this shirt, and I am not at all happy that it was rejected. It was obviously well-liked. I wish they had let it slide.

Michelle Gawarecki

bookworm656


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nepbug wrote:If you wanted re-interpretations of the Artwork Titles that should've been more clear.


I don't see how they could have made it much more clear than by titling the derby "Reinterpreting Famous Art Titles." I do disagree with the rejection, though.

Woot: I'm in it for the monkeys.

Darquis


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linablade wrote:I'm really touched by the amount of people that have shown support here, even though the design was rejected. Thank you all so much for making my first attempt at the Derby so much more memorable! Rest assured that I have not been deterred by this and I will be entering again in the future. I'll just have to pay a bit more attention to the theme's wording next time. Thanks again everyone, and hope to see you all in the next Derby!


Do you intend to submit this design elsewhere when you can (I don't recall if 60 days applies to shirts that were rejected)?

cosmiccow


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Darquis wrote:I agree with everything you said but edit 2 - Great Wave stands on it's own because it's a giant hand, waving - something unique from the original piece of art, and a complete reinterpretation regardless of style.

But like I said, I agree in the other aspect - a modernized starry night "riffs on the idea of a starry night" - if it wasn't in the same style as the original it wouldn't even be up for rejection I'm betting.


Wow, that's seriously splitting hairs. The artist on Great Wave even admits to basically tracing parts of the original. Yeah, he replaced the wave with a "wave." But I would argue that it's closer to the original than this one is.

Darquis


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cosmiccow wrote:Wow, that's seriously splitting hairs. The artist on Great Wave even admits to basically tracing parts of the original. Yeah, he replaced the wave with a "wave." But I would argue that it's closer to the original than this one is.


Closer or not, it's a great Wave - it's waving. That's reinterpretation - a lot of users went with puns. Maybe it should have just been puns on art titles.

cosmiccow


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Darquis wrote:Closer or not, it's a great Wave - it's waving. That's reinterpretation - a lot of users went with puns. Maybe it should have just been puns on art titles.


As a holder of an art history degree, I would call this one more of a reimagining than Great Wave.

My problem isn't so much the rejection; my problem is that the choices of what to reject this week seem needlessly arbitrary.

AdderXYU


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cosmiccow wrote:As a holder of an art history degree, I would call this one more of a reimagining than Great Wave.

My problem isn't so much the rejection; my problem is that the choices of what to reject this week seem needlessly arbitrary.


It is more of a reimagining, but also MORE OF A REINTERPRETATION OF THE TITLE. The other great wave is less reimagining and also far less reinterpretation. The theme doesn't say "DONT REIMAGINE." it says "DO REINTERPRET THE TITLE". An on-theme design -can- reimagine, but MUST reinterpret. Many solely re-imagine.

The rejections this week have literally been the most on-topic, justifiable, correct set of rejections in probably months. Art History major or not, that clearly doesn't prevent you from misinterpreting the theme.

Darquis


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cosmiccow wrote:As a holder of an art history degree, I would call this one more of a reimagining than Great Wave.

My problem isn't so much the rejection; my problem is that the choices of what to reject this week seem needlessly arbitrary.


Reimagining is a bad word. If I introduced it, that's my mistake. Reinterpreting is a better one, and as regards the title, I feel like Great Wave did more (but still feel Starry Night did enough, but this is moot now - unless it gets an honorable mention, which I hope that it does).

But arbitrary seeming rejections? You bet.

linablade


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Darquis wrote:Do you intend to submit this design elsewhere when you can (I don't recall if 60 days applies to shirts that were rejected)?


Since it's gotten such a positive response here from the community, I was thinking about resubmitting it as a daily entry. Do you think that would be wise? Or should I just submit it to Threadless and hope for the best?

brindlegreyhound


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linablade wrote:Since it's gotten such a positive response here from the community, I was thinking about resubmitting it as a daily entry. Do you think that would be wise? Or should I just submit it to Threadless and hope for the best?


I can't tell you which would be a better option for you, but I will say that I will be purchasing one should it print.

Darquis


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linablade wrote:Since it's gotten such a positive response here from the community, I was thinking about resubmitting it as a daily entry. Do you think that would be wise? Or should I just submit it to Threadless and hope for the best?


I can't tell you what would be best, I've never submitted - does woot allow you to submit while it's up for votes at threadless? I don't think they do - I'm sure it'd print at threadless eventually, but what's the hold length for shirt.woot? (that's assuming you don't get an HM - I wouldn't be shocked)

linablade


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Well, it's been a long time since this derby, and I finally got off my butt and posted my Starry Night shirt somewhere else! Click for the original derby entry. It's up for sale now, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link it in this post or not (since that would be advertising another site). If you're interested, please send me a private message and I'll let you know where it's up. Also, I removed that fake binary from the moon, since that seemed to be something everyone agreed needed to go. Thanks again for all the support! And I look forward to submitting more derby entries here in the future!

monkeyboi1011


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Hey - I was wondering if this shirt is still up for sale on the other site that you mentioned? If so, please let me know. I think this is a great shirt and would def like to own one!

Thanks!

linablade wrote:Well, it's been a long time since this derby, and I finally got off my butt and posted my Starry Night shirt somewhere else! Click for the original derby entry. It's up for sale now, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link it in this post or not (since that would be advertising another site). If you're interested, please send me a private message and I'll let you know where it's up. Also, I removed that fake binary from the moon, since that seemed to be something everyone agreed needed to go. Thanks again for all the support! And I look forward to submitting more derby entries here in the future!

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