Derby #158: Physics
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Classic Monkey and Hunter... Problem.

Classic Monkey and Hunter... Problem.
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capedcrusader514


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For those who are going... whaaaa? The monkey and the hunter is a classic physics problem where the hunter tries to shoot the monkey out of a tree while the monkey drops out of the tree right when he shoots.


That's no monkey and I think the hunter made a sorta kinda small mistake.

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odysseyroc


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Awesome! Some of your best work.





clarinerd


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This is great! I was about to do a shirt about this, but gave up on it. I'm glad you didn't. Definitely in for one if it prints.

sokowa


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I do think that's my favorite drawing of yours so far!

Jestik


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I think you're gonna need a bigger dart...


cosmiccow


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Jestik wrote:I think you're gonna need a bigger dart...


Well drawn, but I don't really see how it relates to the physics problem (seeing as how it's a problem about acceleration due to gravity), or physics at all. It reads more as, "Oops, he was bigger than I thought." Seems another case of, "I had a cool design, so I gave it a title to make it fit the theme."
(That said, it is a very well drawn.)

capedcrusader514


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cosmiccow wrote:Well drawn, but I don't really see how it relates to the physics problem (seeing as how it's a problem about acceleration due to gravity), or physics at all. It reads more as, "Oops, he was bigger than I thought." Seems another case of, "I had a cool design, so I gave it a title to make it fit the theme."
(That said, it is a very well drawn.)


Definitely diid this just for this derby. This is the exact setup as the problem the "monkey" has fallen from the tree and been shot. The rest is implied. Almost all the other entries in the derby have some sort of implied element as we can't have equations or txt.

cosmiccow


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capedcrusader514 wrote:Definitely diid this just for this derby. This is the exact setup as the problem the "monkey" has fallen from the tree and been shot. The rest is implied. Almost all the other entries in the derby have some sort of implied element as we can't have equations or txt.


Actually, in the physics problem, it's as it's falling, in midair.

capedcrusader514


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cosmiccow wrote:Actually, in the physics problem, it's as it's falling, in midair.


Very good, but I'm assuming the monkey landed at some point...

cosmiccow


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capedcrusader514 wrote:Very good, but I'm assuming the monkey landed at some point...


From our good friend Wikipedia: "In essence, the problem is as follows: A hunter with a blowgun goes out in the woods to hunt for monkeys and sees one hanging in a tree, at the same level as the hunter's head. The monkey, we suppose, releases its grip the instant the hunter fires his blowgun. Where should the hunter aim and when should he fire in order to hit the monkey?"

Yes, of course the monkey hits the ground eventually. But at that point, we are no longer talking about the physics problem, we're talking about a dead monkey going splat. I'm currently in school for Aerospace Engineering, and nothing about your design makes me think of the classic thought experiment. The "hunter" doesn't have a gun, so he just seems like a slackjawed old dude in stereotypical safari gear who walked up on a gorilla (which is not a monkey, by the way) who happens to have a random dark sticking out of it. NOTHING about this embodies the idea of taking a shot at a monkey the instant that it lets go of the tree, which is what the problem is about. Nothing about it seems to embody physics at all, which is what the theme is about. Maybe it embodies awe and horror, but not physics.

cosmiccow


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capedcrusader514 wrote:Very good, but I'm assuming the monkey landed at some point...


Oh, oops. That link was supposed to go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey_and_the_Hunter.

capedcrusader514


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cosmiccow wrote:From our good friend Wikipedia: "In essence, the problem is as follows: A hunter with a blowgun goes out in the woods to hunt for monkeys and sees one hanging in a tree, at the same level as the hunter's head. The monkey, we suppose, releases its grip the instant the hunter fires his blowgun. Where should the hunter aim and when should he fire in order to hit the monkey?"

Yes, of course the monkey hits the ground eventually. But at that point, we are no longer talking about the physics problem, we're talking about a dead monkey going splat. I'm currently in school for Aerospace Engineering, and nothing about your design makes me think of the classic thought experiment. The "hunter" doesn't have a gun, so he just seems like a slackjawed old dude in stereotypical safari gear who walked up on a gorilla (which is not a monkey, by the way) who happens to have a random dark sticking out of it. NOTHING about this embodies the idea of taking a shot at a monkey the instant that it lets go of the tree, which is what the problem is about. Nothing about it seems to embody physics at all, which is what the theme is about. Maybe it embodies awe and horror, but not physics.


He does have a gun it's not pointed up bc he shot a while ago and this is his "Oh The Strangers (2008)moment". Look at the detail.

You've missed the joke of the shirt. It's obviously not a monkey, that's the point, he shot at a giant gorilla.

Apparently we disagree on how this demonstrates a physics problem. It's a joke, it's not to be taken to the letter of the experiment although I feel I've covered my bases. This would hardly be funny or interesting if I showed the monkey in the tree with the hunter aiming at him.

Congratulations on your schooling.

Spiritgreen


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Haha! Brilliant size and scale, and the expressions are perfect. This might be your best design.

G.M.V.

cosmiccow


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capedcrusader514 wrote:He does have a gun it's not pointed up bc he shot a while ago and this is his "Oh The Strangers (2008)moment". Look at the detail.

You've missed the joke of the shirt. It's obviously not a monkey, that's the point, he shot at a giant gorilla.

Apparently we disagree on how this demonstrates a physics problem. It's a joke, it's not to be taken to the letter of the experiment although I feel I've covered my bases. This would hardly be funny or interesting if I showed the monkey in the tree with the hunter aiming at him.

Congratulations on your schooling.



Haha, sorry, I wasn't trying to be snide. And my bad, I didn't see the rifle.
It's a good design all in all, the drawing is very good...I get the joke, I understand the point, I just think it's a stretch to say it fits the problem, or the theme.

capedcrusader514


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cosmiccow wrote:Haha, sorry, I wasn't trying to be snide. And my bad, I didn't see the rifle.
It's a good design all in all, the drawing is very good...I get the joke, I understand the point, I just think it's a stretch to say it fits the problem, or the theme.


Certainly understandable.

apeman


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I remember this demonstation! My problem is not that the monkey hit the ground but that the setting is out in the wild. It would make 1000x more sense to me if they were in a classroom setting or something. (Awesome drawing of the monkey btw)

walmazan


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mrscat206


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Oh dear goodness the monkey and hunter problem became a huge iside joke for use in high school. This is awesome.

followyourshadow


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I sometimes forget that non-physics geeks don't know the monkey and the hunter.... I felt silly explaining it to my fiancee. I've got at LEAST five people who need this shirt! LOVE IT SOO MUCH!

Johndis5


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I get it, and it's great!

fftkrazee


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This is probably my favorite piece from you. Really like the linework on the gorilla.

lucky1988


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LOLcommunism


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OOOOH! I've heard of that before!

Very creative

Would you kindly...

ambergreen


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He needs to watch more Veggie Tales. If it hasn't got a tail, it's not a monkey. Even if it has a monkey kind of shape.

bassanimation


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I mean to come comment on this earlier! Excellent!! I would so wear this. Great illustration, and of course the joke is hilarious. That gorilla means srs bizznuss. I would not want to accidentally thwat it with a dart of any kind..unless it was a banana dart... +1!

SnowQueenVT


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Your art style is so excellent. I wish that you had used the gorilla as the thumbnail though. Your animal rendition here is truly cool and your style is so unique.I cast my vote!!!!

http://www.wix.com/scottgreenip/snowqueenvt

LOLcommunism


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I figured this shirt would be a shoe-in for the fog...

Would you kindly...

capedcrusader514


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LOLcommunism wrote:I figured this shirt would be a shoe-in for the fog...


You're kind but woot has some sort of disdain for my work, haha. One day... one day...

IndependentVik


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Fits the classic physics problem perfectly. This should be doing much better! The illo is great, one of the best things I've seen you draw

odysseyroc


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capedcrusader514 wrote:You're kind but woot has some sort of disdain for my work, haha. One day... one day...


We should start a club.





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