Derby #165: The Scientific Method
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geekfactor12


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Lion-o!!! I have a Lion-o action figure about a foot and a half away from me as I type this. Best show ever.

megsck


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must...have...lion-o...shirt...now...+1...

lucky1988


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geekfactor12 wrote:Lion-o!!! I have a Lion-o action figure about a foot and a half away from me as I type this. Best show ever.


Yes geekfactor12, Thundercats brings back fond memories! I agree it was such a great show.

lucky1988


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megsck wrote:must...have...lion-o...shirt...now...+1...


Cheers megsck! I loved their armored tank vehicle.

radiomode


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Love it love it love it love it

megsck


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lucky1988 wrote:Cheers megsck! I loved their armored tank vehicle.


there are so many great things about that show, im just glad you didnt put snarf in there ;)

kdeuce


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Thunder, thunder, thunder, Thundercats HOOOOOOOO!
EFF yeah!

CityVelo


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One thing to concern yerself about is the size of this.

I just got kdeuce's Akkorokamui-san and I'm seriously contemplating returning the shirt because the size of the design wasn't at all impressive with the resize to fit into the printing area. I remember voting enthusiastically for it because it was placed lower onto the shirt and crawled upward in a lovely way.

I like shirts that utilize the bottom of the shirt, but with Woot's print area, it leaves for a good chunk of negative space before the design sits... and then the design feels compromised.

Sorry this isn't necessarily about your specific design... but I felt as though it were a little necessary to bring up the possibility of resizing disappointment.

lucky1988


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Ha, megsck never really cared much for that snarf character.

Cheers radiomode and kdeuce.

Thanks for the info CityVelo, much appreciated.
I hope you find a solution to your dilemma, because that is a very cool design.

imsochady


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kdeuce wrote:Thunder, thunder, thunder, Thundercats HOOOOOOOO!
EFF yeah!


HOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Are we that old to know how otterific this show was? Hahaha. Great stuff Lucky!

Spiritgreen


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I love the way you draw Lion-o! Super sweet design. +1


@megsck, it would have been acceptable if he had been landing on Snarf, don'tcha think? -_^

megsck


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Spiritgreen wrote:
@megsck, it would have been acceptable if he had been landing on Snarf, don'tcha think? -_^


that would totally be acceptable =)

Johndis5


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You must have been excited reading the first part of the write up and that is why you missed this at the end...

"Of course the Scientific Method is all about rules, like our omnipresent rule about not 'borrowing' copyrighted works or trademarked characters"

megsck


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Johndis5 wrote:You must have been excited reading the first part of the write up and that is why you missed this at the end...

"Of course the Scientific Method is all about rules, like our omnipresent rule about not 'borrowing' copyrighted works or trademarked characters"


this is called parody, this drawing of lion-o is neither copyrighted or trademarked by warner bros.

Johndis5


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megsck wrote:this is called parody, this drawing of lion-o is neither copyrighted or trademarked by warner bros.


This drawing is not copyrighted. The character Lion-o is.

AdderXYU


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megsck wrote:this is called parody, this drawing of lion-o is neither copyrighted or trademarked by warner bros.


Could you insert a regular cat and have the whole design be exactly the same?

megsck


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Johndis5 wrote:This drawing is not copyrighted. The character Lion-o is.


actually the image of the character lion-o and his name are copyrighted. but as you can see, this can't be lion-o his glove color is off and the logo is totally different not to mention he is much bulkier and that jaw, well its just HUGE...this is obviously a drawing of his cousin folion-o

megsck


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AdderXYU wrote:Could you insert a regular cat and have the whole design be exactly the same?


impossible =D

Johndis5


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megsck wrote:actually the image of the character lion-o and his name are copyrighted. but as you can see, this can't be lion-o his glove color is off and the logo is totally different not to mention he is much bulkier and that jaw, well its just HUGE...this is obviously a drawing of his cousin folion-o


megsck wrote:must...have...lion-o...shirt...now...+1...


Obviously folion-o

BootsBoots


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megsck wrote:actually the image of the character lion-o and his name are copyrighted. but as you can see, this can't be lion-o his glove color is off and the logo is totally different not to mention he is much bulkier and that jaw, well its just HUGE...this is obviously a drawing of his cousin folion-o


I think the point is that in the theme write up, it kind of said "please no more using copyrighted characters, we're sick of it." I took it that way, anyway. The point isn't whether this is legally printable as parody or not (it obviously falls under parody). The point is that it's parodying a copyrighted character, which seemed to be kind of a no-no this time around. Although, the write-ups are many times kind of vague, and I'm not sure if it was a rule or just a suggestion.

Not trying to bring any poo-pooing to your design, Lucky. You know I always dig your style. It just seemed like this argument was going around in circles of misunderstanding, and I thought I'd try to help clear it up.


megsck


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Johndis5 wrote:Obviously folion-o


your not really getting my sarcasm are you...im trying hard here to get you to lighten up and have a good time. ;)

zapatista


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hahahaha! you always make me smile! +1

walmazan


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Lucky, I enjoy your subs all the time! love your style! +1

beaterbar


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BootsBoots wrote:I think the point is that in the theme write up, it kind of said "please no more using copyrighted characters, we're sick of it." I took it that way, anyway. The point isn't whether this is legally printable as parody or not (it obviously falls under parody). The point is that it's parodying a copyrighted character, which seemed to be kind of a no-no this time around. Although, the write-ups are many times kind of vague, and I'm not sure if it was a rule or just a suggestion.

Not trying to bring any poo-pooing to your design, Lucky. You know I always dig your style. It just seemed like this argument was going around in circles of misunderstanding, and I thought I'd try to help clear it up.


I think this is the point with last derby's mega rejection of anything remotely copyrighted. Hopefully it is a trend. I might end up buying more woot shirts. The sad thing about this one is I'd be 1000 times more likely to buy it (though similar shirts exist) if it was a regular cat. I think we should call a pander a pander and acknowledge that liono was slapped on to get nostalgia votes.

indihar


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megsck

actually the image of the character lion-o and his name are copyrighted. but as you can see, this can't be lion-o his glove color is off and the logo is totally different not to mention he is much bulkier and that jaw, well its just HUGE...this is obviously a drawing of his cousin folion-o


Sorry...just not seeing this cousin "Folion-o..."

Am, however, definitely seeing cousin "Jaylion-o..."

Must be the chin...

:D

Spiritgreen


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Hey Boots', woot has said the exact same thing about copyright in the past and then clarified that they mean it in the most general sense. Don't lift art or IP and stick it on your shirt without parody. They make sure to remind us of that once in a while, it isn't a plea for "No more pop culture!".

That'd be like Donald Trump becoming a buddhist and giving up all wordly possessions. And who wants to see that?

---S

Josephus


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Spiritgreen wrote:Hey Boots', woot has said the exact same thing about copyright in the past and then clarified that they mean it in the most general sense. Don't lift art or IP and stick it on your shirt without parody. They make sure to remind us of that once in a while, it isn't a plea for "No more pop culture!".

That'd be like Donald Trump becoming a buddhist and giving up all wordly possessions. And who wants to see that?

---S


//raises hand.

...though he could keep that, uh, 'thing' on his head.

edit: It might be a finch!

Darquis


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Spiritgreen wrote:Hey Boots', woot has said the exact same thing about copyright in the past and then clarified that they mean it in the most general sense. Don't lift art or IP and stick it on your shirt without parody. They make sure to remind us of that once in a while, it isn't a plea for "No more pop culture!".

That'd be like Donald Trump becoming a buddhist and giving up all wordly possessions. And who wants to see that?

---S


A bit exaggerated, I think. We can have shirts without pop culture references. This Spiritgreen guy did one, for example

Spiritgreen


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Darquis wrote:A bit exaggerated, I think. We can have shirts without pop culture references. This Spiritgreen guy did one, for example


Ha. It's funny, I showed my design to a couple of friends and they were all "Hey, the hungry caterpillar."

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People -expect- a reference. They see them even when they aren't there. :p

phozacle


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Spiritgreen wrote:Ha. It's funny, I showed my design to a couple of friends and they were all "Hey, the hungry caterpillar."

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People -expect- a reference. They see them even when they aren't there. :p


I think there is something to this. This particular period in pop culture is obsessed with nostalgia and referencing the glory of things past as opposed to creating new. My psychoanalyst explanation for it is because we were all raised by baby boomers that are continuously forcing us to relive how great everything that happened when they were young was and constantly reminding us that there will never be a band as great as the beetles, that there never will be a war as good for protesting as vietnam, and there will never be childrens shows as good as the ones they made for us when we were young. Create new people!

SnowQueenVT


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I love cats, and cat-like people,so right away I loved the design....and I love the expression and hairdo and glove on the main character. Plus it's just super drawing as always,unmistakably yours!

http://www.wix.com/scottgreenip/snowqueenvt

lucky1988


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Thanks everyone!

Cheers SnowQueenVT!

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