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In the first millenium, Zu Chongzhi built upon the work of earlier mathematicians to calculate pi correctly to 7 decimals.

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great graphic and color combo!

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The colors are great, the design is great, and I'm a nerd, so I would wear this shirt all the time.

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Nice work! Really clever arrangement, it's fashionable and readable and all packed into the same tight space.

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worth the buy!!!

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A refreshing contrasting approach for this derby ThatRobert.

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Great shirt for March 14

mjc613 wrote:Great shirt for March 14

Hey, March 14th is my birthday!

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Now I don't pretend to understand this shirt (above), but by heck I shall vote upon it immediately!

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Wow! What an unexpected run-up today! I designed a shirt that I'd love to wear and usually that doesn't thrill others too much. What a happy surprise.

lucky1988 wrote:great graphic and color combo!

You can't go wrong with black, white, and red.

sharkswithlasers349 wrote:The colors are great, the design is great, and I'm a nerd, so I would wear this shirt all the time.

Thanks fellow nerd!

Spiritgreen wrote:Nice work! Really clever arrangement, it's fashionable and readable and all packed into the same tight space.

Thank you very much Spirit.

Siax wrote:worth the buy!!!

We'll see!

PixelPants wrote:A refreshing contrasting approach for this derby ThatRobert.

Thanks Pixel.

mjc613 wrote:Great shirt for March 14

Good idea! I didn't think of that.

SnowQueenVT wrote:Now I don't pretend to understand this shirt (above), but by heck I shall vote upon it immediately!

Look up "pi". That's cool your birthday is 3/14!

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Your simple designs always blow me away! Great colors and design.

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I really liked this design until my partner pointed out that the 1 can't fall behind the 3 like that unless it was cut. Now I keep staring at it. But, I still kinda like it over all.

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BootsBoots wrote:Your simple designs always blow me away! Great colors and design.

Thanks Boots.

anjulka wrote:I really liked this design until my partner pointed out that the 1 can't fall behind the 3 like that unless it was cut. Now I keep staring at it. But, I still kinda like it over all.

If I understand you correctly, you're saying if you had paper cutouts of the numbers you'd be able to slide the 1 into the 4's hole but wouldn't be able to tuck it behind the 3? Yes, that's correct. I wasn't attempting to make something that realistic -- instead I was trying to make every number completely recognizable in a very tight space.

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one thing that ive always found interesting about woot patrons is that they are really proud of themselves for liking this number

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Nice design Robert, has a very Ugmonk feel which I like. Bold and powerful yet simple, graphically speaking. If it makes it Im in for one

otterific design.

I truly love when a woot shirt does not feature an inanimate object with a cute little face drawn on it. (seriously, take a look). Generally, the submissions are getting too cartoonish.

Best of luck!

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beaterbar wrote:one thing that ive always found interesting about woot patrons is that they are really proud of themselves for liking this number

Rightfully so.

tjost wrote:Nice design Robert, has a very Ugmonk feel which I like. Bold and powerful yet simple, graphically speaking. If it makes it Im in for one

Hopefully doesn't feel like a ripoff of Jeff Sheldon's work. I just bought my first UgMonk shirt last month (lowercase). I watched the Helvetica movie last week and was inspired to give some more love to that classic font.

thenikkoli wrote:otterific design.

I truly love when a woot shirt does not feature an inanimate object with a cute little face drawn on it. (seriously, take a look). Generally, the submissions are getting too cartoonish.

Best of luck!

I like cute little faces now and then but I'd really love to see more minimalism here -- I'm sure most of the voters here are fans of pi, not minimalism but I'll take what I can get!

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Dang! How come we can't get more shirt.woot shirts like this??

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Pretty slick Robert, hope it has time to make up ground. +1

tgentry wrote:Pretty slick Robert, hope it has time to make up ground. +1

indeed. very web2.0-ish. looks good.

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Wonderful clean design!

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A simple, wearable design with impact. Love it!

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RaveDroid wrote:Dang! How come we can't get more shirt.woot shirts like this??

Ditto. I'd love to buy more minimalist stuff.

tgentry wrote:Pretty slick Robert, hope it has time to make up ground. +1

Thanks TG. It'll be hard enough to make fog. Getting printed is another story...

kdeuce wrote:indeed. very web2.0-ish. looks good.

Thanks KD.

ressamac wrote:Wonderful clean design!

Thanks Ressa! I know our tastes and styles have a nice overlap so I appreciate your input.

fishbiscuit5 wrote:A simple, wearable design with impact. Love it!

Thanks Fish!

anjulka wrote:I really liked this design until my partner pointed out that the 1 can't fall behind the 3 like that unless it was cut. Now I keep staring at it. But, I still kinda like it over all.

Dang it! Once seen, it cannot be unseen.

I'd buy it anyway, as I generally don't go around staring at my own shirt for great lengths of time, so it [hopefully] wouldn't bug me too much ... but OCD is hard to deal with sometimes.

wulfepup wrote:Dang it! Once seen, it cannot be unseen.

I'd buy it anyway, as I generally don't go around staring at my own shirt for great lengths of time, so it [hopefully] wouldn't bug me too much ... but OCD is hard to deal with sometimes.

See explanation above...

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anyone want to do a collaboration with avogadro's number? PM me. Pi's just a touch passe at this point.

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Nice to see some classy graphic design in the derbies. I'm not crazy about the kerning on the smaller numbers, but over all a great design. You need to give yourself a BLA on this one.

odysseyroc wrote:Nice to see some classy graphic design in the derbies. I'm not crazy about the kerning on the smaller numbers, but over all a great design. You need to give yourself a BLA on this one.

Good point about the kerning -- it was more necessary in an alternate version of this I abandoned but doesn't add anything right now.

thatrobert wrote:Good point about the kerning -- it was more necessary in an alternate version of this I abandoned but doesn't add anything right now.

To specify, I don't mind the tracking, but the kerning on the first two numbers looks odd compared to the rest. You have all the numbers butting up against each other, but the 1 and 5 seem pretty far apart. Again, a small nitpick for such a great design.

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Too bad math isn't science. It's the language of science.

Hammylink wrote:Too bad math isn't science. It's the language of science.

The way Pi was discovered was precisely the scientific method: mathematicians observed, made a hypothesis, and then either proved or disproved their theory.

If the theme was "science" and not "scientific method", I might agree with you.

SnowQueenVT wrote:Now I don't pretend to understand this shirt (above), but by heck I shall vote upon it immediately!

I'm a pi day baby too. Bring on this shirt!!

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sacrerouge wrote:I'm a pi day baby too. Bring on this shirt!!

It's in the fog now so there's a chance you'll get it!

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(RE This is our birthday!)

sacrerouge wrote:I'm a pi day baby too. Bring on this shirt!!

Yeah,come to mama! A shirt we can wear forever and ever and ever!!(Every one will think we are math freaks but really we are just all about cake and being king/Queen for the day!HaaHaaaHaaaHaaaHaa!

SnowQueenVT wrote:Yeah,come to mama! A shirt we can wear forever and ever and ever!!(Every one will think we are math freaks but really we are just all about cake and being king/Queen for the day!HaaHaaaHaaaHaaaHaa!

Ugmonk inspired? Nice clean design.

thatrobert wrote:The way Pi was discovered was precisely the scientific method: mathematicians observed, made a hypothesis, and then either proved or disproved their theory.

If the theme was "science" and not "scientific method", I might agree with you.

True, but this shirt, well executed while it may be, does not detail that method. It is just a number on a shirt. That makes it science at best, and not really the scientific method. It's definitely off-topic, but hey, at least it's well done and not blatantly pandering.

wotto wrote:Ugmonk inspired? Nice clean design.

Not specifically but I do like his stuff.

dreamwootseeker wrote:True, but this shirt, well executed while it may be, does not detail that method. It is just a number on a shirt. That makes it science at best, and not really the scientific method. It's definitely off-topic, but hey, at least it's well done and not blatantly pandering.

I see your point but this (and many other entries) are showing the results/verification of the scientific method.

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going for the win!!!!

I am sooo buying this shirt!!!

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Yes! This fogged while I was in school! I also noticed the "1" covering up the "3," and while it does seem a bit off, your reasoning for wanting all of the numbers to be easily recognizable makes a lot of sense. If someone does get reeeally picky about it, just tell them that there's a slit in the "3" in which the "1" goes. Fingers crossed for a print.

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Sweet shirt!

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Siax wrote:going for the win!!!!

I am sooo buying this shirt!!!

I hope so!

sharkswithlasers349 wrote:Yes! This fogged while I was in school! I also noticed the "1" covering up the "3," and while it does seem a bit off, your reasoning for wanting all of the numbers to be easily recognizable makes a lot of sense. If someone does get reeeally picky about it, just tell them that there's a slit in the "3" in which the "1" goes. Fingers crossed for a print.

Let me look at the design again and see if I can't make it look like what you expect without changing the overall look. If I get something working, I'll mail it to Woot and let them decide what to print.

amw23583 wrote:Sweet shirt!

Thanks!

thatrobert wrote:The way Pi was discovered was precisely the scientific method: mathematicians observed, made a hypothesis, and then either proved or disproved their theory.

If the theme was "science" and not "scientific method", I might agree with you.

As you admit, it's the result of scientific method, not the process of. I think that makes it off topic, but I really do like the design. Best of luck.

You are a pro with font, bro.

"Writer's Block" is my favorite shirt of all time.

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Darquis wrote:As you admit, it's the result of scientific method, not the process of. I think that makes it off topic, but I really do like the design. Best of luck.

I submitted my design believing it was on topic but the way you and a few other people explained it makes more sense.

I think we sometimes think that Woot really understands what they're asking for when they come up with a topic but in reality I think they throw some idea out there and reject the outliers of the way the crowd understands it instead of their original intention.

juliaL719 wrote:You are a pro with font, bro.

"Writer's Block" is my favorite shirt of all time.

Otterific! Thanks so much. That one didn't get much love. It's cool to hear somebody really liked it!

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Love the concept, love the design.

However, I think the shirt would look better if the imprint were much smaller. For me, as it is, I want to see it even larger and see what happens when it takes over the entire shirt.

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Pi day is my birthday,
∴
This must win so I can buy it.

I don't see "Scientific Method" here... no more than the E=mc^Pi shirt, which was rejected. True, that shirt is wrong, but being a scientist, I can tell you that the scientific method mainly consists of being wrong...

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So simple yet downright artistic! How everything fits together is like an abstract puzzle. I love it!

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Junk6245 wrote:Love the concept, love the design.

However, I think the shirt would look better if the imprint were much smaller. For me, as it is, I want to see it even larger and see what happens when it takes over the entire shirt.

I understand what you're saying but I think it's going to be heading toward "takes over the entire shirt" when you see it printed -- the designs look bigger when you're wearing them.

druidbob wrote:Pi day is my birthday,
∴
This must win so I can buy it.

Wow, 3 pi-day birthdays so far!

glm9647 wrote:I don't see "Scientific Method" here... no more than the E=mc^Pi shirt, which was rejected. True, that shirt is wrong, but being a scientist, I can tell you that the scientific method mainly consists of being wrong...

I don't disagree. See the similar posts above.

Revster1 wrote:So simple yet downright artistic! How everything fits together is like an abstract puzzle. I love it!

Thank you!

druidbob wrote:Pi day is my birthday,
∴
This must win so I can buy it.

therefore, ha!

whoops wrong thread. nice designs out there though...

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love the colors. i would buy this if it printed. we need more minimalism on shirt.woot...

thatrobert wrote:Let me look at the design again and see if I can't make it look like what you expect without changing the overall look. If I get something working, I'll mail it to Woot and let them decide what to print.

Fantastic! I would definitely wear this either way, but if you could get that done, this shirt would be even better. Still 12 more hours to rack up some votes!

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I reallyyyy like this shirt! I hope you win so I can buy one! (:

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I want this shirt to win. Personally, its not for me; however, I like variety. I hope it wins and stays in the reckoning for a bit, so when I tell my friends about woot, they have options when it comes to purchasing. Seeing "cute" stuff over and over in the reckoning has seemed to turn my friends (yes, even my female friends) away from this site in time.

Edit: Not all successful pieces in the reckoning are "cute" design, but most are. I am just saying that this bring variety, filling a design gap that isn't currently present. Variety Rules!

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tonymontana444 wrote:love the colors. i would buy this if it printed. we need more minimalism on shirt.woot...

Yup.

sharkswithlasers349 wrote:Fantastic! I would definitely wear this either way, but if you could get that done, this shirt would be even better. Still 12 more hours to rack up some votes!

I spent a couple hours playing around with it. Whatever I did messed up the balance -- the "3" either became too obvious or too subtle.

phangea wrote:I reallyyyy like this shirt! I hope you win so I can buy one! (:

Me too.

chumpmagic wrote:I want this shirt to win. Personally, its not for me; however, I like variety. I hope it wins and stays in the reckoning for a bit, so when I tell my friends about woot, they have options when it comes to purchasing. Seeing "cute" stuff over and over in the reckoning has seemed to turn my friends (yes, even my female friends) away from this site in time.

Edit: Not all successful pieces in the reckoning are "cute" design, but most are. I am just saying that this bring variety, filling a design gap that isn't currently present. Variety Rules!

I agree with you 100% -- regardless of whether my shirt makes it or not.

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This is by far the best design in the fog.

Maybe not graphically intense, but this is a coherent design that is VERY wearable.

Kudos!

I CANT WAIT TO BUY THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Woah. I've got a typography lady-boner right now. :O I love this.. Really hope I get to buy it. :D

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WANT!!! Please, Woot, release this shirt. Nothing but garbage all summer, and finally a chance at something decent.

awsome shirt design! i really hope this gets printed!

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i want this.

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I really wanted this shirt!! I'm so bummed it didn't get picked as a derby winner. Great design though!

CarterW wrote:I really wanted this shirt!! I'm so bummed it didn't get picked as a derby winner. Great design though!

me too actually

anjulka wrote:I really liked this design until my partner pointed out that the 1 can't fall behind the 3 like that unless it was cut. Now I keep staring at it. But, I still kinda like it over all.

why oh why did you point that out to the rest of us?!?!?!? now its staring at me!!!!!!!!!!